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The first thing we should take note of is that the New Testament was first written in ancient Greek; and in the Greek, χιλιάς chiliás = a thousand (one thousand); and every time the word "thousand" appears in Revelation chapter 20, it's a translation of the Greek word χιλιάς [ chiliás ].

A thousand (one-thousand): χιλιάς chiliás.

Two-thousands: δισχίλιοι dischílioi (example Mark 5:13).

Three-thousands: τρισχίλιοι trischílioi (example Acts 2:41).

Four-thousands: τετρακισχίλιοι tetrakischílioi (example Matthew 15:38).

Seven-thousands: ἑπτακισχίλιοι heptakischílioi (example Romans 11:4).

Five-thousands: πεντακισχίλιοι pentakischílioi (example Matthew 14:21).

Five thousand: (five times a thousand) Five (πέντε pénte) times a thousand (χιλιάς chiliás, one thousand) = pénte chiliás, five thousand (example Acts 4:4).

Ten thousand: (ten times a thousand) Ten (δέκα déka) times a thousand (χιλιάς chiliás, one thousand) = déka chiliás, ten thousand (example Luke 14:31).

Ten-thousands: μύριοι mýrioi (example 1 Corinthians 4:15).

Twelve thousand: (twelve times a thousand) Twelve (δώδεκα dṓdeka) times a thousand (χιλιάς chiliás, one thousand) = dṓdeka chiliás, twelve thousand (example Revelation 7:5).

Twenty thousand: Twenty (εἴκοσι eíkosi) times a thousand ((χιλιάς chiliás, one thousand) = eíkosi chiliás, twenty thousand (example Luke 14:31).

Fifty thousand: Five (πέντε pénte) times ten-thousands (μυριάς myriás) = pénte myriás, fifty ten-thousands (example Acts 19:19).

Thousands: μυριάς myriás (example Acts 21:20). It's also used for ten-thousands, and for an innumerable number, for example:

Revelation 5:11
"And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten-thousands (μυριάς myriás) times ten-thousands (μυριάς myriás), and a thousand (χιλιάς chiliás) times a thousand (χιλιάς chiliás)".

Every time the word "thousand" appears in Revelation chapter 20, it's a translation of the Greek word χιλιάς [ chiliás ] - one thousand only.

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The second thing we should take note of, is that Revelation chapter 20 verses 1-3 clearly speaks of Satan being bound and locked up in the bottomless pit:

"And I saw an angel come down from Heaven, having the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him a thousand (χιλιάς chiliás) years. And he cast him into the abyss and shut him up and set a seal on him, that he should deceive the nations no more until the thousand years should be fulfilled. And after that he must be loosed a little time."

Yet in his letter to the Christians in Corinth, Paul states, "But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." (2 Corinthians 4:3-4).

So is Satan bound (or partially bound, or restricted) right now, and has he been over these last 2,000 years?

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In order to answer this question, the third thing we should take note of, is that Revelation chapter 12 speaks of Satan's ability to accuse the brethren before God having been completely destroyed; and we know this is by the cross of Christ because we are told that "they overcame him because of the blood of the Lamb, and because of the word of their testimony. And they did not love their soul to the death." (Revelation 12:11).

Therefore Satan, the accuser, had no legal right to appear in the court room anymore.

Immediately after this we are told that the devil has been cast out of heaven, and has come down to the earth and the sea "having great wrath, knowing that he has but a little time." (Revelation 12:12). We are then told about Satan going to war against "the woman" who had given birth to the Messiah, and then against "the rest of her seed, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." (Revelation 12:13-17), which of course, refers to Satan's war against the churches of Christ.

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The fourth thing we should take note of, is that both Jesus and His apostles taught, by implication of the things they said to the churches, that Satan is very active in the world:-

In Revelation 2:12 Jesus tells the church at Pergamos, "I know your works, and where you live, even where Satan's seat is. And you hold fast My name and have not denied My faith, even in those days in which Antipas was My faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwells."

In Revelation 2:9-10 Jesus tells the church in Smyrna, "I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.".

In his letter to the Christians in Corinth, Paul states, "But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." (2 Corinthians 4:3-4).

In Ephesians 6:11-12 Paul tells the Christians in Ephesus to "put on the whole armour of God, for your being able to stand against the wiles of the devil", and then continues to say, "because we have not the wrestling with blood and flesh, but with the principalities, with the authorities, with the world-rulers of the darkness of this age, with the spiritual things of the evil in the heavenly places".

In Acts 26:17-18, we read of Jesus telling Paul that He was sending Paul to the Gentiles ""To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me."

In Acts 5:3 we read that Peter said to a man named Ananias, "why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?"

In Romans 16:20, Paul tells the church in Rome that "And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly."

In 1 Corinthians 5:5 Paul tells the church in Corinth to deliver the person who had sinned grievously unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus."

In 1 Corinthians 7:5 Paul says to the married couples in the same church, "Do not deprive one another, unless it is with consent for a time, so that you may give yourselves to fasting and prayer. And come together again so that Satan does not tempt you for your incontinence."

In 2 Corinthians 2:11 Paul tells the same church to forgive the person who sinned "Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices."

In 2 Corinthians 11:13-15 Paul refers to teachers of false doctrines who sought to beguile Christians as "false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ", and then goes on to say, "Did not even Satan marvelously transform himself into an angel of light? Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves as ministers of righteousness, whose end shall be according to their works." (2 Cor 11:14-15).

So Paul was calling the teachers of false doctrine "ministers (servants) of Satan".

In 1 Thessalonians 2:18 Paul tells the Christians in Thessaloniki that he had and those who accompanied him on his journeys tried to come to them, "but Satan hindered us."

In 1 Timothy 5:15 Paul says that some Christians "have already turned aside after Satan."

In 1 Timothy 3:6-7 Paul says that anyone desiring the office of a Bishop should "not a novice, lest being puffed up he may fall into the condemnation of the Devil; and it behoveth him also to have a good testimony from those without, that he may not fall into reproach and a snare of the devil."

James tells Christians, "Therefore submit yourselves to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." (James 4:7).

Peter tells Christians to "Be sensible and vigilant, because your adversary the Devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking someone he may devour; whom firmly resist in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions in the world are being completed in your brotherhood." (1 Peter 5:8-9).

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Over and over again, the activities of Satan in the world, whom Paul calls "the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not," is referred to in the New Testament, and Christians are warned and exhorted to be aware of this, and of the wiles of Satan, and to resist him.

In stark contrast to this, not once - not ever - does the New Testament outside of Revelation chapter 20 speak of Satan being bound, nor "partially bound" by having his activities in the earth restricted (any more than his activities in the world have always been restricted to an extent by God, from the time of the fall of Adam onward, throughout the Bible, where many times we read of cases where the activities of Satan in the world were restricted).


Therefore in my opinion, the only Biblical conclusion we can come to regarding the one thousand year period written about in Revelation chapter 20, is that this period has not yet come.

In my opinion, this should not be surprising to any Christian who reads the book of Revelation and learns from the Revelation that at the time the Revelation was penned, "the beast" (which the Revelation states will ascend from the abyss and be defeated by Christ at the time of His return, and then be destroyed by Christ in "the lake of fire burning with brimstone") "was" (existed at one time), "is not" (does not exist anymore), "and will ascend out of the abyss, and go to perdition".

The Revelation teaches that Satan will likewise be destroyed in the lake of fire after a thousand years - where the beast and and its false prophet (already) are.

In my opinion any eschatology ("end-times theology) presented by any church which teaches that Satan is (already) currently bound in some manner, is therefore patently false, and is probably based on a theological castle of sand built on the sea's side of the high tide mark.
 
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The first thing we should take note of is that the New Testament was first written in ancient Greek; and in the Greek, χιλιάς chiliás = a thousand (one thousand); and every time the word "thousand" appears in Revelation chapter 20, it's a translation of the Greek word χιλιάς [ chiliás ].

A thousand (one-thousand): χιλιάς chiliás.
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It is literal
 
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I could be wrong but I have always taken it to be literal. Kinda like the 7 day week , 6 days work 7th day rest.
Somewhere Jesus had said , "They shall not enter my rest" , Which I have always assumed is the one thousand years.
 
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The first thing we should take note of is that the New Testament was first written in ancient Greek; and in the Greek, χιλιάς chiliás = a thousand (one thousand); and every time the word "thousand" appears in Revelation chapter 20, it's a translation of the Greek word χιλιάς [ chiliás ].

A thousand (one-thousand): χιλιάς chiliás.

Two-thousands: δισχίλιοι dischílioi (example Mark 5:13).

Three-thousands: τρισχίλιοι trischílioi (example Acts 2:41).

Four-thousands: τετρακισχίλιοι tetrakischílioi (example Matthew 15:38).

Seven-thousands: ἑπτακισχίλιοι heptakischílioi (example Romans 11:4).

Five-thousands: πεντακισχίλιοι pentakischílioi (example Matthew 14:21).

Five thousand: (five times a thousand) Five (πέντε pénte) times a thousand (χιλιάς chiliás, one thousand) = pénte chiliás, five thousand (example Acts 4:4).

Ten thousand: (ten times a thousand) Ten (δέκα déka) times a thousand (χιλιάς chiliás, one thousand) = déka chiliás, ten thousand (example Luke 14:31).

Ten-thousands: μύριοι mýrioi (example 1 Corinthians 4:15).

Twelve thousand: (twelve times a thousand) Twelve (δώδεκα dṓdeka) times a thousand (χιλιάς chiliás, one thousand) = dṓdeka chiliás, twelve thousand (example Revelation 7:5).

Twenty thousand: Twenty (εἴκοσι eíkosi) times a thousand ((χιλιάς chiliás, one thousand) = eíkosi chiliás, twenty thousand (example Luke 14:31).

Fifty thousand: Five (πέντε pénte) times ten-thousands (μυριάς myriás) = pénte myriás, fifty ten-thousands (example Acts 19:19).

Thousands: μυριάς myriás (example Acts 21:20). It's also used for ten-thousands, and for an innumerable number, for example:

Revelation 5:11
"And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten-thousands (μυριάς myriás) times ten-thousands (μυριάς myriás), and a thousand (χιλιάς chiliás) times a thousand (χιλιάς chiliás)".

Every time the word "thousand" appears in Revelation chapter 20, it's a translation of the Greek word χιλιάς [ chiliás ] - one thousand only.

-----------------------------------​

The second thing we should take note of, is that Revelation chapter 20 verses 1-3 clearly speaks of Satan being bound and locked up in the bottomless pit:

"And I saw an angel come down from Heaven, having the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him a thousand (χιλιάς chiliás) years. And he cast him into the abyss and shut him up and set a seal on him, that he should deceive the nations no more until the thousand years should be fulfilled. And after that he must be loosed a little time."

Yet in his letter to the Christians in Corinth, Paul states, "But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." (2 Corinthians 4:3-4).

So is Satan bound (or partially bound, or restricted) right now, and has he been over these last 2,000 years?

----------------------------------------​

In order to answer this question, the third thing we should take note of, is that Revelation chapter 12 speaks of Satan's ability to accuse the brethren before God having been completely destroyed; and we know this is by the cross of Christ because we are told that "they overcame him because of the blood of the Lamb, and because of the word of their testimony. And they did not love their soul to the death." (Revelation 12:11).

Therefore Satan, the accuser, had no legal right to appear in the court room anymore.

Immediately after this we are told that the devil has been cast out of heaven, and has come down to the earth and the sea "having great wrath, knowing that he has but a little time." (Revelation 20:12). We are then told about Satan going to war against "the woman" who had given birth to the Messiah, and then against "the rest of her seed, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." (Revelation 12:13-17), which of course, refers to Satan's war against the churches of Christ.

-----------------------------------------------​

The fourth thing we should take note of, is that both Jesus and His apostles taught, by implication of the things they said to the churches, that Satan is very active in the world:-

In Revelation 2:12 Jesus tells the church at Pergamos, "I know your works, and where you live, even where Satan's seat is. And you hold fast My name and have not denied My faith, even in those days in which Antipas was My faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwells."

In Revelation 2:9-10 Jesus tells the church in Smyrna, "I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.".

In his letter to the Christians in Corinth, Paul states, "But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." (2 Corinthians 4:3-4).

In Ephesians 6:11-12 Paul tells the Christians in Ephesus to "put on the whole armour of God, for your being able to stand against the wiles of the devil", and then continues to say, "because we have not the wrestling with blood and flesh, but with the principalities, with the authorities, with the world-rulers of the darkness of this age, with the spiritual things of the evil in the heavenly places".

In Acts 26:17-18, we read of Jesus telling Paul that He was sending Paul to the Gentiles ""To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me."

In Acts 5:3 we read that Peter said to a man named Ananias, "why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?"

In Romans 16:20, Paul tells the church in Rome that "And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly."

In 1 Corinthians 5:5 Paul tells the church in Corinth to deliver the person who had sinned grievously unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus."

In 1 Corinthians 7:5 Paul says to the married couples in the same church, "Do not deprive one another, unless it is with consent for a time, so that you may give yourselves to fasting and prayer. And come together again so that Satan does not tempt you for your incontinence."

In 2 Corinthians 2:11 Paul tells the same church to forgive the person who sinned "Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices."

In 2 Corinthians 11:13-15 Paul refers to teachers of false doctrines who sought to beguile Christians as "false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ", and then goes on to say, "Did not even Satan marvelously transform himself into an angel of light? Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves as ministers of righteousness, whose end shall be according to their works." (2 Cor 11:14-15).

So Paul was calling the teachers of false doctrine "ministers (servants) of Satan".

In 1 Thessalonians 2:18 Paul tells the Christians in Thessaloniki that he had and those who accompanied him on his journeys tried to come to them, "but Satan hindered us."

In 1 Timothy 5:15 Paul says that some Christians "have already turned aside after Satan."

In 1 Timothy 3:6-7 Paul says that anyone desiring the office of a Bishop should "not a novice, lest being puffed up he may fall into the condemnation of the Devil; and it behoveth him also to have a good testimony from those without, that he may not fall into reproach and a snare of the devil."

James tells Christians, "Therefore submit yourselves to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." (James 4:7).

Peter tells Christians to "Be sensible and vigilant, because your adversary the Devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking someone he may devour; whom firmly resist in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions in the world are being completed in your brotherhood." (1 Peter 5:8-9).

-----------------------------------------------------------------​

Over and over again, the activities of Satan in the world, whom Paul calls "the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not," is referred to in the New Testament, and Christians are warned and exhorted to be aware of this, and of the wiles of Satan, and to resist him.

In stark contrast to this, not once - not ever - does the New Testament outside of Revelation chapter 20 speak of Satan being bound, nor "partially bound" by having his activities in the earth restricted (any more than his activities in the world have always been restricted to an extent by God, from the time of the fall of Adam onward, throughout the Bible, where many times we read of cases where the activities of Satan in the world were restricted).


Therefore in my opinion, the only Biblical conclusion we can come to regarding the one thousand year period written about in Revelation chapter 20, is that this period has not yet come.

In my opinion, this should not be surprising to any Christian who reads the book of Revelation and learns from the Revelation that at the time the Revelation was penned, "the beast" (which the Revelation states will ascend from the abyss and be defeated by Christ at the time of His return, and then be destroyed by Christ in "the lake of fire burning with brimstone") "was" (existed at one time), "is not" (does not exist anymore), "and will ascend out of the abyss, and go to perdition".

The Revelation teaches that Satan will likewise be destroyed in the lake of fire after a thousand years - where the beast and and its false prophet (already) are.

In my opinion any eschatology ("end-times theology) presented by any church which teaches that Satan is (already) currently bound in some manner, is therefore patently false, and is probably based on a theological castle of sand built on the sea's side of the high tide mark.


Millennium Questions:

Can the following questions be examined without ridicule, and condemnation, based on the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and found fulfilled in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and Hebrews 12:18-24?


Based on the following scripture, will immortals and mortals both live on the earth for 1,000 years after the Second Coming of Christ? Will there be renewed animal sacrifices in earthly Jerusalem for 1,000 years after the Second Coming of Christ?


Why did Jesus correct the woman at the well when she said earthly Jerusalem was the place to worship?


How many mortals are left alive on the planet at the end of Matthew 25:31-46?


What is the restitution of all things at the return of Christ in Acts 3:20-21?

Will Christ's sacrifice at Calvary also reverse the curse, at His return?


Does death die at the last trumpet in 1 Corinthians 15?


Why did Paul say the Jerusalem above is our home in Galatians 4:24-31?


Who is the king of the bottomless pit in Revelation 9:11?

Based on Revelation 9:14, have some of the angels already been bound in some manner?

If the beast comes up out of the pit in Revelation chapter 11, where is the beast now?


Was Paul expecting Christ to return "in flaming fire" taking vengeance on those who do not know God in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10. How would mortals survive this fire?

Does the fire come at the end of Revelation 20?


Did Paul expect both the living and the dead to be judged at the appearing of Christ, in 2 Timothy 4:1?

When is the judgment of the dead in Revelation 20? Is it the same judgment of the dead in Revelation 11:18?


What is the inheritance of the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:1-16?


Is the third temple found in 1 Peter 2:4-10? Is this temple just as real as a temple made of earthly stones?


What was Peter expecting on the day of the Lord when He comes as a thief, in 2 Peter 3:1-13?


Do we find the judgment of both the living and the dead at the 7th trumpet, which is the last trumpet in the Bible, in Revelation 11:15-18? Why do most preachers ignore the time of the judgment of the dead, with reward for some, and destruction for others in Revelation 11:18? What does it prove about the chronology of the Book of Revelation?


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Based on the following scripture, will immortals and mortals both live on the earth for 1,000 years after the Second Coming of Christ? Will there be renewed animal sacrifices in earthly Jerusalem for 1,000 years after the Second Coming of Christ?
What does any of this have to do with a literal 1000 years? You do not have any more of an answer than the rest of us who read the Bible. Do we currently have animal sacrifices going if this is currently the millennium? If there are no animal sacrifices now, why in the next 1000 years? This argument needs to be removed from your objection of the Lord's Day. As for the rest of your questions, why do you make posters look up every verse?
 
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What does any of this have to do with a literal 1000 years? You do not have any more of an answer than the rest of us who read the Bible. Do we currently have animal sacrifices going if this is currently the millennium? If there are no animal sacrifices now, why in the next 1000 years? This argument needs to be removed from your objection of the Lord's Day. As for the rest of your questions, why do you make posters look up every verse?


And in like manner, when it comes to Zech 14 and keeping the feast of tabernacles, Amils claim that it has to involve animal sacrificing if meaning after the 2nd coming, therefore it can't be meaning after the 2nd coming. What Amils are neglecting to take into account, the keeping of this is meaning after Christ already died, rose, and ascended back to heaven. There is no getting around that. Assuming it could be applied to this age instead, it wouldn't be involving animal sacrificing in this age, so why would it be involving animal sacrificing in the next age?

But keeping the feast of tabernacles can't be meaning in this age to begin with, because Zechariah 14:16-19 is meaning post the 2nd coming. There is no getting around that.
 
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If the beast comes up out of the pit in Revelation chapter 11, where is the beast now?

You give the impression you think the beast is still in the pit presently. I don't necessarily have a dispute with that. The fact you are Amil though, a lot of Amils claim there are already martyrs reigning a thousand years in heaven with Christ, for refusing to worship this same beast, nor it's image(Revelation 20:4). Are you among those Amils that claim that? It would be pretty contradictory if you are, the fact you give the impression the beast is still in the pit as we speak. Until this beast ascends out of the pit first, there couldn't possibly be any saints from the time Jesus ascended back to heaven, up until now, that have been martyred for refusing to worship it.
 
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Will there be renewed animal sacrifices in earthly Jerusalem for 1,000 years after the Second Coming of Christ?

There are clearly Premils that believe that, yet it is not a requirement of Premil that to be Premil one has to believe that. I'm Premil and I don't believe that.
 
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Millennium Questions:
Thanks for copying and pasting questions from another thread - and doing so without addressing any of the scriptures in the OP of this thread, or the facts I produced regarding the Greek word for "a thousand" in Revelation 20.

I'm going to reply to the questions contained in the OP in the thread you copied and pasted from while you ignored the verses and points in my OP. However, if you reply by simply asking more question that have nothing to do with the OP or by refusing to address the scriptures and facts in my OP in this thread, I will also ignore your posts. Is that a deal?
Can the following questions be examined without ridicule, and condemnation, based on the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and found fulfilled in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and Hebrews 12:18-24?
Please understand that it's not condemnation or belittlement to point out that you have not addressed the scriptures mentioned in the OP of this thread, nor the fact that outside of Revelation chapter 20, there are no New Testament verses which imply that Satan is currently bound.

You have merely started a new thread in this thread with scriptures which have nothing to do with the scriptures in the OP, and asked questions regarding them - which would be fine, were you also to have first admitted that what is stated in the OP regarding the following is true:

1. The Greek word used for a thousand in Revelation 20 speaks of one thousand years only.
2. The fact that Revelation 12 speaks of Satan being cast down to earth and after persecuting the woman who gave birth to the Messiah, goes to war against "the rest of her offspring who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ correlates with the fact outside of Revelation 20, there are no statements implying that Satan is bound in some manner - instead, there are many statements both by Jesus and His apostles which teach the opposite.

The reason why you simply ignore the above facts and refuse to address them, and the motive behind the reason, only you will know.

I will re-arrange the order of your questions in order to establish whether the facts produced in the OP point to a literal thousand years following the return of Christ, or whether they don't:
Based on the following scripture, will immortals and mortals both live on the earth for 1,000 years after the Second Coming of Christ? Will there be renewed animal sacrifices in earthly Jerusalem for 1,000 years after the Second Coming of Christ?
Based on which scripture? You never followed your question with any scripture, and you have asked two unrelated questions. The two questions you ask above are not related. So let me separate them, as they should be:

Based on the following scripture,

(A) will immortals and mortals both live on the earth for 1,000 years after the Second Coming of Christ?

(B) Will there be renewed animal sacrifices in earthly Jerusalem for 1,000 years after the Second Coming of Christ?

(A) Based on scriptures such as Matthew 19:28; Revelation 2:26-27; Luke 22:28-30; Revelation 3:21; 2 Timothy 2:11-13; Revelation 20:4 and Zechariah 14:16-19, indeed there will be immortals and mortals both living on the earth for 1,000 years after the Second Coming of Christ.

Are these the scriptures you ommitted in your question? Or are there other scriptures you had in mind?

(B) Personally, I do not believe that there be renewed animal sacrifices in earthly Jerusalem for 1,000 years after the Second Coming of Christ. As far as "Ezekiel's temple" is concerned, I believe that the book of Ezekiel, like the book of Revelation, is a highly symbolic book, and correlates with a literal 1,000 years, as can be seen in these images. The rest of your questions follow in the posts beneath it because I keep getting told my post is too long because I'm answering your post that's too long:

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Millennium Questions:
Why did Jesus correct the woman at the well when she said earthly Jerusalem was the place to worship?
Because Jesus is the temple of God, and the congregation of believers who are sojourning in this present world is the temple on earth.

Your question has nothing to do with the OP of this thread, and this is because you just copied and pasted your list of questions from another thread; and in any case, you're asking the wrong person if you want to debate whether there is any need for a physical temple in Jerusalem, because I do not believe in such a thing.

The entire temple system, as Hebrews explains so well, is a shadow of something much greater, and of the real thing - the sacrifice of Christ. The Old Covenant temple was based on Mosaic law, which Paul taught was abolished in the flesh of Christ - the verses you quoted in Jeremiah clearly state that the New Covenant is not like the covenant which God made with Israel "in the day He took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt". That covenant, as both Hebrews and Jeremiah state, was broken by the people. "The wife" committed adultery, though God was a faithful "husband" to them.
How many mortals are left alive on the planet at the end of Matthew 25:31-46?
How can anyone know? Perhaps you will take a census when the day has passed and inform us how may mortals are left.

In verse 41 of Matthew 25, Jesus states:

"Then He also shall say to those on the left hand, Depart from Me, you cursed, into everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his angels."

The Revelation tells us that that the devil will only be cast into the lake of fire after the thousand year period, and the beast (which rules over the nations) and its false prophet will already be there.

Since the casting of Satan into the lake of fire takes place after a thousand years, but the beast and false prophet are already there at this point, and the Revelation of the thousand years is given in-between the Revelation of the beast and false prophet being cast into the lake of fire on one hand, and the devil being cast into the lake of fire on the other, then it is only logical that there is a thousand-year gap in-between the casting of the beast and false prophet into the lake of fire and the devil into the lake of fire.

Also, the Revelation 14:9-12 clearly warns:

"If anyone worships the beast and its image, and receives a mark in his forehead or in his hand, he also will drink of the wine of the anger of God, having been mixed undiluted in the cup of His wrath. And he will be tormented by fire and brimstone before the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever. And they have no rest day or night, those who worship the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name. Here is the patience of the saints. Here are the ones who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus."

We are not told how many they might be - they could be those who neither believed in nor worshiped Christ, nor did they worship the beast, and somehow escaped death at the hand of the beast - but we are not told. We are only told that those who worshiped Christ and were martyred for their refusal to worship the beast, will reign with Christ over the nations.

In my opinion it is of the utmost importance for any honest Bible student to combine all scripture and study all verses relating to this together, without simply ignoring those scriptures that get in the way of a previous conclusion he has come to - because scripture does not contradict scripture, but certain aspects of Christian theology does contradict scripture.
What is the restitution of all things at the return of Christ in Acts 3:20-21?
It is this:

"what is man that You are mindful of him, and the son of man, that You visit him? For You have made him a little lower than the angels, and have crowned him with glory and honor. You made him rule over the works of Your hands; You have put all things under his feet:"

"And God said, Let Us make man in Our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the heavens, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over all the creepers creeping on the earth."

"Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him.

But now (Greek nun: "of present time"), we see not yet all things put under him. But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man."

"Ask of Me, and I shall give the nations for Your inheritance; and the uttermost parts of the earth for Your possession. You shall break them with a rod of iron; You shall dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel."

"And she bore a son, a male, who is going to rule all nations with a rod of iron. And her child was caught up to God and to His throne."

"And he who overcomes and keeps My works to the end, to him I will give power over the nations. And he will rule them with a rod of iron, as the vessels of a potter they will be broken to pieces, even as I received from My Father."

"My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would fight so that I might not be delivered to the Jews.

But now (Greek nun: "of present time") My kingdom is not from here."

"And the seventh angel sounded. And there were great voices in Heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ. And He will reign forever and ever."

"And this gospel of the kingdom shall be proclaimed in all the world as a witness to all nations. And then the end shall come."

"Then, indeed, these coming together, they asked Him, saying, Lord, do You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel? And He said to them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father has put in His own authority. But you shall receive power, the Holy Spirit coming upon you. And you shall be witnesses to Me both in Jerusalem and in all Judea, and in Samaria, and to the end of the earth."

(Psalm 8:3-6; Genesis 1:26; Hebrews 2:8-9; Psalm 2:8; Revelation 12:5; Revelation 2:26-27; John 18:36, Revelation 11:15; Acts 1:6-8; Matthew 24:14).

It is the restoration of the Kingdom to the Son of Man, who after reigning over all nations with a rod of iron for 1,000 years, will hand the Kingdom back to God the Father.
Will Christ's sacrifice at Calvary also reverse the curse, at His return?
Christ's sacrifice at Calvary has already reversed the curse, 2,000 years ago. Why then has He not yet returned? See the question the disciples asked Him immediately before He ascended for the answer.
Does death die at the last trumpet in 1 Corinthians 15?
No. Those who died in Christ will rise again, according to 1 Corinthians 15. Death is not destroyed at that point. There are those who will only be delivered up by death and hades a thousand years later, according to the Revelation.
 
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Millennium Questions:
Why did Paul say the Jerusalem above is our home in Galatians 4:24-31?
Because our home is where Christ is, and Jerusalem on earth is certainly not our home while He is not there.

I will ask you some questions too, regarding something Jesus said. I hope you will answer them. Be careful what you answer, because you don't want to add to the words of Jesus, either by adding meaning to His words which is not there, nor take away from His words:

1. Who is Jesus speaking to in the verses below:

"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one killing the prophets and stoning those who are sent to her, how often would I have gathered your children together, even as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you would not! Behold, your house is left to you desolate. For I say to you, You shall not see Me from now on until you say, "Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord." (Matthew 23:37-39).

2. In the above statement Jesus made, did He say that Jerusalem would never see Him again?

3. Did Jesus give Jerusalem a condition which they would need to fulfill in order to see Jesus again?

4. What is the condition?
Who is the king of the bottomless pit in Revelation 9:11?
I believe it's Satan, because Revelation 9:1 states that it's a star which John saw fall from the heaven to the earth, and it was given the key to the bottomless pit.

However, the New Testament and Revelation 12 teach that Satan is not in the abyss, nor does he open the abyss from the inside. He is given the key to the abyss and opens it from the outside. All the scriptures I quoted in my OP in this thread point to this - there is absolutely NOTHING in the text of the Revelation or anywhere else in the New Testament that suggests Satan will open the pit from the inside.
Based on Revelation 9:14, have some of the angels already been bound in some manner?
Yes, some angels are bound in the pit - but this does not mean they were bound when Christ rose from the dead and Satan was cast out of heaven. Revelation 9:14 should not be taken alone - 2 Peter 2:4-9 and Jude 1:5-7 both speak about angels who were bound at a point in time which was already ancient history to the days of the apostles.

The context of both 2 Peter 2:4-9 and Jude 1:5-7 is a time way prior to (way prior to) the time Satan was cast out of heaven and down to earth - because the latter occurred when Jesus died and rose again, while the former was already ancient history when Peter and Jude wrote their epistles.

The honest Bible student will not make the reference in Revelation 9:14 into a reference to Satan and the angels who were cast out of heaven and down to earth with him - unless the Bible student doing so is choosing to ignore other scriptures and facts, such as those I've mentioned above, which prohibits such an interpretation.
If the beast comes up out of the pit in Revelation chapter 11, where is the beast now?
The beast does not exist now. Satan is not the beast. Revelation 13:2 makes it unmistakably clear that they are two different entities - it is Satan giving the beast his power, his seat and great authority.

Revelation chapter 20 also makes it abundantly clear that they are two different entities - because Satan is only cast into the lake of fire after having been bound for a thousand years, but the beast and its false prophet are already there.
Was Paul expecting Christ to return "in flaming fire" taking vengeance on those who do not know God in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10. How would mortals survive this fire?
Yes, Paul was expecting it; and Revelation 14:9-11 warns that those who worship the beast and its image or receive its mark/number of its name "will be tormented by fire and brimstone before the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb."

Both 2 Thessalonians 1:9 and Revelation 14:11 warn that their torment will be forever and ever.

Paul did NOT say that there will be no mortal survivors of the return of Christ. Neither did Peter. Neither does the Revelation, and the scriptures prophesy that there will be survivors in the nations who will go up to Jerusalem from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and keep the feast of tabernacles (or have no rain); and the promises Jesus made to the saints is that they will reign with Christ in the regeneration, ruling over all nations with a rod of iron under Christ's authority. Then there is also the promise in Revelation chapter 20 that after being resurrected from the dead, those who had been beheaded for their testimony to Jesus and refusal to worship the beast will live and reign with Christ for a thousand years.

The fact of the matter is the honest Bible student still must combine all scripture in order to interpret it correctly, and there are far too many passages and verses in scripture in the Old Testament prophetic books which show that there will still be mortals left on the earth following the return of Christ, who will be ruled with a rod of iron during the one thousand years.

Your quoting of Paul in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10 therefore does not in any adequate way prove any point you want to make.
Does the fire come at the end of Revelation 20?
What the Revelation most certainly does teach us, is that when Satan is cast into the lake of fire, the beast and the false prophet are already there. So there are two different entities being cast into the lake of fire at two different points in time, because there are two different judgments.

Fire comes down from heaven at the end of Revelation 20 and consumes those who take part in the final rebellion. This fire only comes down after Satan has been loosed again after having been bound a thousand years during which he was unable to deceive the nations.

The text states very clearly that after the one thousand years, Satan will be loosed again and go out deceiving the nations again, gathering them for a final rebellion - and the battle which occurs immediately before the return of Christ and the one thousand years is called "Armageddon" in the Revelation. The final rebellion speaks of "Gog and Magog" gathering against the camp of the saints. Fire comes DOWN from heaven and consumes them. This is not the same as the beast and false prophet and all who worshiped the beast being thrown into the lake of fire. In their case, it is not said that fire came DOWN from heaven and devoured them. They were cast into a fiery lake.

Therefore the words of Paul and Peter in the New Testament, and the Revelation too, state that there will be a beast already in the lake of fire when at the close of the millennium, fire comes DOWN from heaven and consumes those who take part in the final rebellion. To confuse Armageddon with Gog and Magog is taking liberty with the texts and trying to get the scriptures to fit a conclusion which scripture does not point to, when the entirety of all scripture is sourced.
Did Paul expect both the living and the dead to be judged at the appearing of Christ, in 2 Timothy 4:1?
Without saying whether or not there would be any survivors or mortals who would live on into the thousand year reign of Christ and be ruled with a rod of iron, yes.
When is the judgment of the dead in Revelation 20? Is it the same judgment of the dead in Revelation 11:18?
No. Those who worship the beast and receive its mark are tormented with fire and brimstone and the beast and false prophet are thrown into the lake of fire long before fire COMES DOWN from heaven and destroys those who take part in the final rebellion - which is followed immediately by Satan being thrown into the same lake of fire where the beast and false prophet ALREADY ARE.

How can the two separate judgments be one and the same judgment?

The two separate judgments can only be one and the same judgment if you ignore all the other parts of scripture which interfere with such a conclusion.
What is the inheritance of the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:1-16?
The same as our inheritance. We are not yet in the millennium of Christ's reign on earth, and we have not yet gone beyond that reign of Christ either. We are still in the spiritual kingdom where Christ is on the throne but allowing Satan his short time of deception before he is bound for a thousand years. All saints will only receive our full inheritance after Satan has been loosed again and after his final attempt at getting the nations together to defeat God's purpose.

No Christian who does not understand that the thousand years is literal can comprehend much of either his own inheritance not the inheritance of any other saint. No saint can fully comprehend our full inheriatnce yet because we do not have it in full yet.
Is the third temple found in 1 Peter 2:4-10? Is this temple just as real as a temple made of earthly stones?
The temple made of earthly stones was not the temple built by the hand of God. It was real while the presence of the Holy Spirit was dwelling in the Most Holy Place in that temple - but it's been done away with, because it was only a shadow of the temple in heaven and the temple Peter speaks about.

This fact has nothing at all to do with whether or not the thousand years spoken of in Christ's Revelation to his churches is real or not. You say that the millennium is not real - not a real thousand years but a symbolic thousand years. The Revelation itself does not imply that the thousand years it mentions is not real. Nor does anything else in scripture imply that it's not a real thousand years.
What was Peter expecting on the day of the Lord when He comes as a thief, in 2 Peter 3:1-13?
The Revelation states that Satan will be bound for a thousand years and the Revelation says nothing about the return of Christ at the close of the thousand years, but only states that Satan will be loosed and then destroyed in the lake of fire where the beast and false prophet (already) are.

Peter was expecting the second coming of Christ, and he does not mention a thousand year period during which Satan has been bound, because Satan has not been bound and will not be bound before the return of Christ.
Do we find the judgment of both the living and the dead at the 7th trumpet, which is the last trumpet in the Bible, in Revelation 11:15-18? Why do most preachers ignore the time of the judgment of the dead, with reward for some, and destruction for others in Revelation 11:18? What does it prove about the chronology of the Book of Revelation?
It proves that the seventh trumpet is sounded and the thousand years begins. It proves that there are two different judgments before and after: the judgment where those who worshiped the beast and received its mark are tormented with fire and brimstone and the beast and false prophet cast into the lake of fire burning with brimstone; and the final judgment where fire COMES DOWN from heaven and destroys those who take part in the final rebellion, and where Satan is cast into the lake of fire where the beast and false prophet (already) are.

Now that I have answered your lenghy post, please do likewise, and address the facts in my OP and the scriptures in my OP. Either admit or deny that Jesus and His apostles warned about Satan and his deceptive activities and trouble-causing activities and exhorted Christians to gaurd against him and to resist him.
 
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Ignoring great portions of scripture and of prophetic scripture, as well as the promises Jesus Himself made to the saints regarding their reigning with Him over the nations, cannot be ignored and brushed aside, simply to make scripture fit a favorite conclusion.

IMO, most Amils, if not all of them, make the same mistake as unbelieving Jews do. And that is, they are trying to understand all of these things via only one testament rather than both. And look at the way that is working out for unbelieving Jews. Not real well.
 
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IMO, most Amils, if not all of them, make the same mistake as unbelieving Jews do. And that is, they are trying to understand all of these things via only one testament rather than both. And look at the way that is working out for unbelieving Jews. Not real well.
Yes. They say the unbelieving Jews are not Israel but suddenly when Paul says that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles is come in, then Israel is the unbelieving Jews again. It cannot be partial blindness upon all Israel.

Actually, Amillennials never know what to do with the closing verses of Romans 11.
 
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How can anyone know? Perhaps you will take a census when the day has passed and inform us how may mortals are left.


The answer is found below.

Mat 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.


How many mortals do you see left alive on the planet at the end of the verse above?

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The answer is found below.

Mat 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.


How many mortals do you see left alive on the planet at the end of the verse above?

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The verse above is not talking about ever single human being unless you ignore many long passages of prophetic scripture, the promises of God to Christ, the promises of Christ to the saints, and a whole lot more.
 
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The answer is found below.

Mat 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.


How many mortals do you see left alive on the planet at the end of the verse above?

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In context, and unfortunately even many Premils disagree with me about this, the goats are not symbolizing the unsaved lost as a whole. They are symbolizing professed servants of Christ, the same ones Jesus said in Matthew 7 that He knew them not. All one has to do is read, starting from Matthew 24:42 up until this judgment in Matthew 25, and they can see Jesus was specifically focusing on two types of servants of His, one being the faithful servant of His, the other being the unfaithful servant of His. The sheep symbolizing the former, the goats symbolizing the latter.

Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?


Jesus is addressing these as a whole. If this is meaning all of the unsaved, this would include satantists, witches, atheists, so on and so on. Yet, notice how this group as a whole answers Jesus---saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Seriously, does that sound like answers satantists, witches, atheists, so on and so on, would be providing during this judgment? The fact the sheep and goats are gathered from all nations, and assuming the sheep symbolize the faithful servant of His, and the goats symbolize the unfaithful servant of His, would it not be throughout the nations where both types of servants would be found when Jesus returns? Of course it would.

And if I am correct about the above, one can't use the sheep and goats judgment to prove there are not mortal survivors after this judgment. This particular judgment does take place at the 2nd coming, yet this is not the great white throne judgment, though.
 
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The Bible itself proves there is no literal, FUTURE, earthly millennium. The "evidence" is in the apostolic eschatological doctrine that prohibits any view of the "millennium" that portrays it as a future, literal, earthly epoch. A simple examination of the NT epistles shows that there is no future historical "thousand-years" period. We know this with certainty, for the apostles explicitly identified the precise timing of the resurrection, the judgment, and the New Heaven/Earth -- they all occur at the coming of Jesus Christ, thus proving that there is no literal "thousand years" that separates these events out over time.

(1) The resurrection occurs at the coming of Christ (1 Cor 15:23)

(2) The judgment occurs at the coming of Christ (2 Tim 4:1; Rev 11:15-18)

(3) The "New Heavens/Earth" occurs at the coming of Christ -- i.e., the "thief's coming," the "day of the Lord" (2 Pet 3:10/1 Thess 5:2)

These key eschatological events all occur at the precise moment of the coming of Jesus Christ. THEREFORE, as the apostles themselves understood, there is no literal, historic millennium separating them.

The popular millennialist maps separate these three eschatological events by a period of 1000 temporal, earthly years--or, in some cases, 1007 years. The bible doesn't allow it. The bible proves there is no literal earthly "millennium." Once we understand the plain truth of this, we can turn our efforts to understanding the apostolic teaching of the "thousand years" as a typological symbol--one of many in John's highly typological and symbolic vision.

What is it a Typological Symbol of?
The Thousand years is a typological reference to the length of the Davidic Monarchy, from David, the first King in the line, to Christ, the Final, and Completion/Restoration of the Line, which is a period of...

wait for it......

1000 LITERAL years!


The "Thousand years" shows that Christ fulfilled the hopes of the Davidic Monarchy that Christ would fill David's office as King (Luke 1:68-69; Acts 2:30-36; 1 Timothy 1:17; Mark 11:10; ) and restore the tabernacle of David (Acts 15:16-17) so that all the gentile nations could join in to the true worship of Jehovah. The 1000 years shows a completed Monarchy instead of the fact that the Monarchy had fallen into ruin in the 500s BC via the Babylonian captivity.

David and Christ being the only 2 Kings in the line that matter, David the type, Christ the antitype, or fulfillment.

Christ fulfilled what all other kings in the line failed to do, thus bringing completion to, and fulfilling the purpose for, the Davidic monarchy, which was the "1000 year reign".

Again, the idea of a thousand years reign with Israel's Monarchy was an Old Testament hope -- one that was wished for but failed. The hopes of this glorious reign were laid out when Solomon took the throne after David. It was said that Israel would walk in the covenant blessings, and so much so that the Gentiles would come into the covenant (such as the Queen of Sheba's homage to Solomon). However, the "tabernacle of David" began to quickly crumble, and fell into total ruin by the time of the Babylonian exile. This all summarizes an OT type. Now, fast-forward to all the NT typology about Jesus being the TRUE "son of David" who was born as THE MESSIANIC HEIR to David's throne for raising up the Monarchy. This is what Revelation 20 is doing. It is using the Davidic Monarchy typology and applying it to Christ and the martyr-kings who reign in the Christic Monarchy, and it does so in exactly the same typological sense as other types we are more familiar with (Jesus is the "sacrifical lamb," etc). In Revelation 20 we see Jesus and his tribulation-martyr-kings reign; they defeat satan; they bring in the gentiles; and they judge the world. These are all the things hoped for in the OT times, but fulfilled in Jesus Christ and the New Covenant Church. The Church has all dominion with Christ over heaven and earth, satan was defeated, the gentles are now in the covenant, and Christ and the Church are the judges of the whole world.

Amazing History.
 
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Based on the following scripture,

1. will immortals and mortals both live on the earth for 1,000 years after the Second Coming of Christ?

2. Will there be renewed animal sacrifices in earthly Jerusalem for 1,000 years after the Second Coming of Christ?

1. no
2. no

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The Bible itself proves there is no literal, FUTURE, earthly millennium. .

agreed

Mankind will not be enjoying an earthly 1000 year period of time on Earth following the second coming.
 
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The fact you are SDA, I'm guessing you don't agree there is no future millennium, you only disagree with the earthly part, while parousia70 doesn't believe in a future millennium at all, whether earthly, or heavenly, or whatever.
 
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