It is not about what I believe/don't believe but accepting what some person I don't know claims another person said.What's so hard to believe about these claims? Not only do I not find it hard to believe he said them, I wouldn't disagree with them if he did. And I attend church regularly.
Not second hand you are stating what another person said to you. But it says nothing about the third person, whom "neighbor" said he doesn't like.Is what you said above what you said below?
If you say your neighbor said, "I don't like that guy who lives up the street." and you repeat that to the police, is that second-hand rumor and innuendo?
It says right there "Trump said of the laying on of hands". That's the context. What do you mean "the article shows nothing"? It's in black and white.Let's take this for instance (S word removed from quote):
Later that day, Cohen writes, he met up with Trump in his office.
"Can you believe that bulls: Trump said of the laying on of hands. "Can you believe that people believe that bull."
What is he responding to there? The article shows nothing. As far as anyone knows Trump is 100% correct in his acessment.
No, I am not kidding. What part of this did you not understand or agree with?You say:
there is no other context that can change the conclusion of the article,
Are you kidding!?
No, that is not what I am "basically saying". It's not at all what I'm saying. I did not say context doesn't matter. I did not say the article offers no context at all. YOU are saying that. And YOU are wrong in saying that.You are basically saying context doesn't matter, so between that and the fact the article offers no context at all, hence basically only tells half the story, the article is a complete joke.
Yeah, I think that every time I listen to a Trump supporter.Amazing how half a story is all some people need, or better said, all some people "want".
Cohen would be first hand. And Trumps own published words are indisputable. Cohen could be lying, but nothing we’ve seen from Trump indicates he is remotely religious.Some folks are ready/anxious to believe anything negative about Trump. Second/third hand rumor and innuendo.
The OP is asking what you believe.It is not about what I believe/don't believe but accepting what some person I don't know claims another person said.
Exactly. It's not second or third hand knowledge, hearsay, or inuendo.Not second hand you are stating what another person said to you.
says right there "Trump said of the laying on of hands". That's the context. What do you mean "the article shows nothing"? It's in black and white.
But many Christians devoutly believe in that "magic." Calling it BS is definitely anti-Christian.I would want context as to just what form of Laying on of Hands. Laying on hands as a ritual of blessing is rather different than Laying on of hands as a bit of Christian magic.
Let's take this for instance
"Can you believe that bulls: Trump said of the laying on of hands. "Can you believe that people believe that bull."
What is he responding to there? The article shows nothing.
Please quote what exactly about laying on of hands Trump eplied too.
But many Christians devoutly believe in that "magic." Calling it BS is definitely anti-Christian.
Welcome to the CF forums!I don't believe he said it. But let's say he did? How does that negate the success of his policies? And what's our alternative? That scumbag, Biden? Do you really think he holds us in any higher regard?
Laying hands on someone when you pray for them is very common and has nothing to do with speaking in tongues. To think that handlings snakes is within any of these preacher's [at the White House] teachings is so far out of line that it's ridiculous.Much less laying on hands or speaking in tongues or handling snakes.
Not so many compared to Christians as a whole. But a substantial majority believe in what you call "magic." It is an essential part of their faith whether it is real or not and it is a grotesque insult at best to openly refer to it as BS. You certainly wouldn't get away with it here on CF.Many Christians think the Earth is flat.
Many Christians are part of snake handling groups.
Many Christians believe in name it and claim it.
Many Chrsitians believe all sorts of things. Calling out one of those is not anti-Christian. It is just calling out the specific thing.
Not that I expect anything by Trump was that.
It's not a reply, it's an observation. He's reacting like most people who don't handle snakes or speak in tongues react to people handling snakes or speaking in tongues.
'Can you believe they are into that nonsense?'
Laying hands on someone when you pray for them is very common and has nothing to do with speaking in tongues. To think that handlings snakes is within any of these preacher's [at the White House] teachings is so far out of line that it's ridiculous.
Please quote what exactly about laying on of hands Trump eplied too.
Why does he meet them if he mocks them like that?
According to the quote it was to the act of laying on of hands, not any specific aspect of it. It's simple reading comprehension. You're just looking for an "out" for Trump, "Oh, he MEANT this, he MEANT that,..." blah blah blah nonsense. Take the story for what it is saying, that's it. You want to disagree that's fine but searching for something else, some other detail that isn't there at all isn't going to change the fact it's not there and it doesn't NEED to be there either.Please quote what exactly about laying on of hands Trump eplied too.
Doesn't matter. I am a Christian who doesn't believe there is any magical or supernatural aspect to the Laying on of Hands, I see it as entirely symbolic (although in the Bible for the first occurrences it did have a supernatural element).I would want context as to just what form of Laying on of Hands. Laying on hands as a ritual of blessing is rather different than Laying on of hands as a bit of Christian magic.