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I guess if I were Donald I'd want my supporters focusing the unfounded fear that things could be worse rather than looking for concrete ways in which he actually made things better. I mean, it might not work but the alternative is a sure-fire loser given the current pandemic and unemployment numbers.
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Trump didn't cause this virus. The economy was doing really good until this. We can't just shut everything down and starve. Biden will stop everything and try to make people more dependent on government.
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Yeah...he did. Trump doubled down on it too...
It was really a bad night for Biden. Even Chris Wallace scored points on Biden's duality and lack of answers. And Joe claimed to have practiced a lot. Trump claimed he did no practice as "Being a President was practice enough".
Those saying that Biden shouldn't debate anymore are correct...he loses points every time he speaks. He has no answers for difficult questions.
To be fair...
Chris gave Trump some softball questions that he absolutely blew out of the gate but eventually got back to them...Trump should have done some actual practice. He wouldn't have missed them out of the gate.
Neither Candidate came away as likeable.
Trump's personality is what it is...but he has been a very effective President for American interests. That also showed through in the debate. Trump successfully painted Joe as doing nothing in the 37 years in office. (Not correctly remembering the name of the college you graduated from was really bad for Joe)
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No, he didn't cause it, but he did do an extremely poor job of responding to it. Countries that took aggressive measures early have seen minimal deaths and minimal economic damage. South Korea, for example, is just about done dealing with their second wave and is forecasting a GDP loss of about 1% for the year.
I'm not sure where you get the idea that Biden plans to shut everything down immediately on taking office. There's certainly no mention of it in his published COVID plan. That's a strategy that would have worked in March, but by this point, it's likely too widespread.
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What more could he do? There's no cure and social distancing along with masks are having zero effect.
Biden to ABC's David Muir: 'I would shut [country] down' to prevent spread of COVID-19 if scientists recommended
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What most leaders around the world have done. Lead. Lead by example if nothing else.
Because Republicans are telling everyone to ignore them (hint: see trump campaign rallies).
It's not that hard to figure out.
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At this point, I don't know what steps should be taken. I'm not an epidemiologist. Though I will point out that mask-wearing and social distancing are far from universal right now.
From a purely political standpoint though, he could stop spreading misinformation and holding rallies.
Key words there are "if scientists recommend it." I don't see any call from the medical community to shut everything down right now, therefore declaring that Biden will do it is very misleading.
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The "talking over" the opponent point trying to be made by Democrats this morning is really hypocritical...
Clinton Bush debates
Clinton Dole debate..
That's all I really have to say about it.
Clinton Bush debates
Clinton Dole debate..
That's all I really have to say about it.
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It's a difficult issue, I agree. However, the really large rallies have been forbidden by Democratic governors intend upon preventing the hugely successful stadium-sized rallies that the President had been holding.
Do not doubt that the lockdowns were, and are, part of the election campaign.
That has virtually been admitted by some of those elected officials who have been responsible for prohibiting the gatherings that they don't care for while allowing the ones that they DO LIKE to go on as planned.
The minute the Democrats sweep the November elections (if they do) the next set of edicts from those governors will be to ease up, say the lockdowns actually succeeded in reducing the danger from the virus, that it's okay to resume normal life now, etc. etc. etc.
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I don’t know who won the debate .. but I think America lost last night.
But what made it so clear to me last night that my vote for Joe Biden is the right choice for me.
As I have said many time in my previous post, I am not looking for policy agreement with the candidate, what I am looking for is a human decency, political normalcy , Civility and Biden is the right choice.
You may not like Biden, you may not like his policy, but any decent human who has compassion will appreciate the tragedy Biden family went thru.
During debate when Biden was talking about Beau Biden, someone who served this country, someone who died in cancer , Trump couldn’t even let him finish the sentence. I understand this is a debate and every minute counts but someone who has even a shred of decency left in him would let a father talk about his dead son without interruption. The current President of USA doesn’t have that little decency in him.
But what made it so clear to me last night that my vote for Joe Biden is the right choice for me.
As I have said many time in my previous post, I am not looking for policy agreement with the candidate, what I am looking for is a human decency, political normalcy , Civility and Biden is the right choice.
You may not like Biden, you may not like his policy, but any decent human who has compassion will appreciate the tragedy Biden family went thru.
During debate when Biden was talking about Beau Biden, someone who served this country, someone who died in cancer , Trump couldn’t even let him finish the sentence. I understand this is a debate and every minute counts but someone who has even a shred of decency left in him would let a father talk about his dead son without interruption. The current President of USA doesn’t have that little decency in him.
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It's not clear. Joe Biden did call Trump xenophobic, but it's not clear there was any connection to Trump stopping some flights from China, and in context it seems Biden is not talking specifically about that. And Biden did allude to Donald's record in general and other things that he has done that are, well, xenophobic.
On Feb. 1, 2020, the day after Trump announced the restrictions, Biden tweeted, “We are in the midst of a crisis with the coronavirus. We need to lead the way with science — not Donald Trump’s record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering. He is the worst possible person to lead our country through a global health emergency.” Biden didn’t mention the travel restriction specifically.
In a May 2020 speech to the Asian American and Pacific Islanders Victory Fund, a political action committee dedicated to mobilizing voters in the Asian American and Pacific Islander communities, Biden called Trump’s response to the coronavirus “xenophobic.” He said Trump was responsible for “a new rash of racial messages, verbal and physical attacks and other acts of hate, some subtle, some overt, against the Asian American and Pacific Islanders.”
Biden listed examples such as Trump telling CBS News White House correspondent Weijia Jiang to “ask China” in response to a question about the coronavirus she had asked him during a press briefing at the White House, and criticizing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi for visiting Chinatown in San Francisco to help boost business there.
The Anti-Defamation League reported a rise in hate crimes victimizing Asians amid the COVID-19 pandemic, pointing to rhetoric from elected officials, including Trump, who referred to the disease as the “Kung flu,” among other racist terms.
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Then you have to claim the exact same thing about Clinton...
He interrupted and made all kinds of salicional claims about Bush SR and Bob Dole during those debates.
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Oh, absolutely. Not only was the debate a mess because of the moderator not moderating and then adding insult to injury by making himself the third debater...
but Trump's interruptions came mainly because he wasn't allowed to finish a thought without being stopped by the moderator or Biden. Biden insisted on talking on and on at the same time as Trump had the floor. Not an interruption, but just a steady drone as if it was he who had the floor instead of Trump. The resulting noise appeared to be a planned tactic.
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This is where some real practice and coaching would have really helped Trump with more concise answers.
Biden claimed to have done a lot of practice...if that's true then he really doesn't stand a chance.
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I didn’t see debate between Clinton and Bush H .. I was serving in mission field in West Bengal that time along with my parents. And Clinton vs Dole.. I was in Bible college and we were not allowed to watch TV.
But does that make any difference? Human decency doesn’t go out the window because someone in the history did something indecent.
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