Amy Barrett accused ‘adopted Blacks' to use them as props

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No it's not. You are.
They had 54 lost 2 in the 2016 election. Someone left between 2016-2018 leaving 51 and gain back 2 in 2018 =53
When you start out with 54 and end up with 53 ...
 
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They had 54 lost 2 in the 2016 election. Someone left between 2016-2018 leaving 51 and gain back 2 in 2018 =53
When you start out with 54 and end up with 53 ...
Umm...You do realize that doesn't make what I said incorrect, right? I said the people elected a republican senate in 2016 (they did) and they expanded it in 2018 (they did). So what did I say that was incorrect?
 
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I don't know. Like I said, McConnell had a reason; something about in 2016 it was a republican senate but democrat president, and this year both are republican.
1. That was not the primary justification at the time - it's only being floated now as a post-hoc rationalization. I believe McConnell may have mentioned it once or twice, but far more often, he (and every other Republican Senator) justified their positions based on the fact that it was "too close to the election." Lindsey Graham even used an identical situation as a hypothetical during a committee hearing and said that the hypothetical Republican president should not be allowed to choose a justice.

2. That's an absolutely ridiculous way of looking at things. What you're saying is, essentially, that the President has no power unless his party also holds the Senate. There are multiple problems with that idea. First, that's not how the government is meant to function. The Senate is a check on the Presidency, true, but it should not be able to nullify the President's actions except under extreme circumstances. There's a reason why a veto override takes a supermajority. Second, the Senate runs on 6-year terms, so it's composition does not fully represent the current political climate since only a subset of Senators are up for re-election at a time. The House, which runs on 2-year terms, would be a better proxy there. Third, the Senate does not proportionally represent the American people since every state has two Senators. A majority in the Senate does not necessarily represent a majority of the people in this country. Again, look to the House, which is distributed proportionally by population.
 
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1. That was not the primary justification at the time - it's only being floated now as a post-hoc rationalization. I believe McConnell may have mentioned it once or twice, but far more often, he (and every other Republican Senator) justified their positions based on the fact that it was "too close to the election."

So if he mentioned it once or twice in 2016 he did mention it. That's the point. It's not some new thing McConnell has dreamed up.
 
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Umm...You do realize that doesn't make what I said incorrect, right? I said the people elected a republican senate in 2016 (they did) and they expanded it in 2018 (they did). So what did I say that was incorrect?
If you consider that an expansion OK it's not what I would describe as an expansion.
 
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So if he mentioned it once or twice in 2016 he did mention it. That's the point. It's not some new thing McConnell has dreamed up.
I didn't claim it was new. Just that it wasn't the main justification that was used. That would be the proximity of the election. Now that we have another Supreme Court vacancy in an election year, the former primary justification has been laid aside in favor of the passing comment.

Also, see the second part of my post. As a justification, it's utter crap.
 
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1. That was not the primary justification at the time - it's only being floated now as a post-hoc rationalization. I believe McConnell may have mentioned it once or twice, but far more often, he (and every other Republican Senator) justified their positions based on the fact that it was "too close to the election." Lindsey Graham even used an identical situation as a hypothetical during a committee hearing and said that the hypothetical Republican president should not be allowed to choose a justice.

2. That's an absolutely ridiculous way of looking at things. What you're saying is, essentially, that the President has no power unless his party also holds the Senate. There are multiple problems with that idea. First, that's not how the government is meant to function. The Senate is a check on the Presidency, true, but it should not be able to nullify the President's actions except under extreme circumstances. There's a reason why a veto override takes a supermajority. Second, the Senate runs on 6-year terms, so it's composition does not fully represent the current political climate since only a subset of Senators are up for re-election at a time. The House, which runs on 2-year terms, would be a better proxy there. Third, the Senate does not proportionally represent the American people since every state has two Senators. A majority in the Senate does not necessarily represent a majority of the people in this country. Again, look to the House, which is distributed proportionally by population.
I never said I agreed with it necessarily. I said earlier, I don't see why they shouldn't have at least voted on the pick in 2016. I just don't think the Dems should pretend they have a moral high ground here or something, since they would do the exact same thing, and everyone knows they would.
 
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I just don't think the Dems should pretend they have a moral high ground here or something, since they would do the exact same thing, and everyone knows they would.
I'm not sure what makes you so certain of this. They never did it before. And they would have certainly lost my vote had they tried. Now that the Republicans have gone there first though, all bets are off. I'd still prefer a return to the status quo (re-instating and codifying the 60-vote threshold for judicial nominees of all types, as well as prohibiting committees from unilaterally holding back Senate responsibilities.), but I'd hardly fault the Democrats for using the Republicans own tactics against them.
 
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I'm not sure what makes you so certain of this. They never did it before. And they would have certainly lost my vote had they tried. Now that the Republicans have gone there first though, all bets are off. I'd still prefer a return to the status quo (re-instating and codifying the 60-vote threshold for judicial nominees of all types, as well as prohibiting committees from unilaterally holding back Senate responsibilities.), but I'd hardly fault the Democrats for using the Republicans own tactics against them.
Most of the people on both sides are hypocrites and career politicians who just play politics. There isn't many that really uphold the constitution at all, if any. Right now, I pretty much just have to choose the lesser of the two evils.
 
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I'm not sure what makes you so certain of this. They never did it before. And they would have certainly lost my vote had they tried. Now that the Republicans have gone there first though, all bets are off. I'd still prefer a return to the status quo (re-instating and codifying the 60-vote threshold for judicial nominees of all types, as well as prohibiting committees from unilaterally holding back Senate responsibilities.), but I'd hardly fault the Democrats for using the Republicans own tactics against them.

The one problem is that Democrats moved first on the filibuster, so they arguably started all of the confirmation nonsense.

Lindsey Graham even used an identical situation as a hypothetical during a committee hearing and said that the hypothetical Republican president should not be allowed to choose a justice.

His response is that he had not anticipated the Kavanaugh debacle. Maybe he's rationalizing, but that's a big wrench getting thrown into the mix.
 
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Because you do not understand the years of counseling... drug addiction, suicide attempt my daughter Keshia went through because of racist black idiots spreading this kind of nonsense. Picking on her because she has a white sister and dad. Pick on her because she has a cop for an uncle. Telling her she is not really black. We actually went through a period of time when she began to fear me because of all the things she was told whites do to blacks and I would eventually do to her. She never even meet her grandparents because she was mixed. They didn't want her or me. I honestly wish people with all that nonsense would shut their mouths. They go around spewing racial hatred and rhetoric with no care about the harm it causes. Truly despicable.
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This breaks my heart! Awful
 
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It's kind of an odd story. I figured that their People of Praise handlers told them to build the kingdom or something.

All I know is that in the picture of Barrett with two daughters behind her, her Haitian daughter looked disgusted and her biological daughter looked bored.

Maybe they are just thinking about all the activities they will miss babysitting their siblings while she lives in Washington six months of the year, but it could be something deeper.

Raising a child from another race and culture takes a special kind of sensitivity. These children must have the opportunity to interact with other families who will help them develop their racial and cultural identities. (For a Cliff's Note version, watch "This is Us.")

In addition, they had numerous obstacles they needed to overcome--leaving their homeland, learning a new language, getting used to a life of affluence, perhaps feeling guilty for the aunts and cousins and friends they left at home starving.

The Barretts may have done all of those things. I don't have any idea. I admire people who adopt children--but adopting two children doesn't make up for throwing 23 million men, women, and children off health insurance.
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Nothing wrong with adopting a child from another race or culture as long as they can have an interest in that culture and can teach the child something of their heritage, if possible and make sure to understand issues a child from another heritage may face. Even simple things like how to care for their hair texture etc
 
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I’m sorry but, who is this person and why should anyone care to defend their opinion here? It’s obvious the Senate is going to force ACB through to a lifetime appointment in record time, regardless of any objections from the other side, valid or not so why do you care so much what some random person on Twitter might think about her?

Because what the establishment pushes on social media translates to real world actions on the streets. I have seen it for 4 years. They coin the term 'collusion' all parties involved parrot it, (verbatim) and others even enforce the narrative with violence. I'm interested with the new talking point 'handmaidens tale' is going. And why the Democrats would be targeting Catholicism.
 
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The one problem is that Democrats moved first on the filibuster, so they arguably started all of the confirmation nonsense.
True, though it could be argued that that was because the Republicans decided they would filibuster every nominee that Obama made regardless of qualifications. It was a misguided response to be sure, but the Republicans were engaging in systematic obstruction of the function of the judicial system and showed no desire to compromise. Personally, I think they should have toughed it out and campaigned hard against the obstruction in 2014. The elimination of the filibuster was likely a significant contributor to the Republican landslide that year.

His response is that he had not anticipated the Kavanaugh debacle. Maybe he's rationalizing, but that's a big wrench getting thrown into the mix.
That's one heck of a post-hoc rationalization IMO. How could he not see that coming? Sure, not the specifics, but he had to know the Democrats were going to fight tooth and nail against any nominee if the Republicans won in 2016 after the obstruction of Garland.

ETA: with Kavanaugh, the Republicans had also eliminated the filibuster for SC nominees, so the Dems had no other recourse to object in any meaningful way.
 
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I'm interested with the new talking point 'handmaidens tale' is going. And why the Democrats would be targeting Catholicism.
1. It's not new. It came up in her confirmation hearings for the 7th Circuit as well.

2. It's not targeting Catholicism. It's about a very small, very specific sect that Judge Barrett belongs to that most certainly does not represent the views and beliefs of mainstream Catholicism.
 
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They are outright going after her for her religious faith.
The only attack on her faith I see in that video is a reference to one analyst calling her a "fake Catholic" - and that's a quote on the scrolling banner out of context. It's over the line, I agree, but a single analyst at MSNBC doesn't qualify as "Democrats."
 
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The only attack on her faith I see in that video is a reference to one analyst calling her a "fake Catholic" - and that's a quote on the scrolling banner out of context. It's over the line, I agree, but a single analyst at MSNBC doesn't qualify as "Democrats."

I threw my dart at the board. Soon enough we will see exactly where it landed.
 
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These are just a handful of white celebrities who have adopted black children. Has the racist, Kendi, commented on them?



Also, I noticed Kendi using the tried and true time warp tactic. “Some White colonizers ..." Are there 'White colonizers' today? Last year? Ten years ago? Within Barrett's lifetime? How long has it been? You know you're a racist when you have to go back a hundred years or more, in order to justify your racism.
 
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