Any scriptural evidence that evangelized Gentiles are to keep the Sabbath?

klutedavid said:

You may need glasses.

Here is what you asked.

'Oh, you are faith only, and no need to do good, we will go to heaven regardless?'

My answer, Grace only.

Without grace you have nothing.

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Ok I asked you if you had to do good in order to get to heaven, and since you would not give me a direct yes or no, I can only assume you are saying no, we need not do good and grace only is sufficient:

Please read the following and then I post the same question, is Jesus incorrect, or do we have to do good after all in order to get to heaven? Or is grace still sufficient?

John 5:28-29 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemne

My comments in ( )

Gods law is not just for the Jews

( I usually don`t respond to cut and paste articles. It`s not a discussion if that is what you going to do.)

1) Adam and Eve were not Jewish. “God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it” (Genesis 2:3) before sin entered. “Sanctified” means “to be set apart for holy use.” The only ones in the Garden of Eden for whom the Sabbath was “set apart” were Adam and Eve, who weren’t Jewish.

(I said same thing more then once to the guy who is stuck on the 10 commandments. This is off topic for the post you are responding to.)

2) “The Sabbath was made for man.” Mark 2:27. Jesus said this. It was “made” in the Garden of Eden before it was “written” down on Mount Sinai. The Sabbath was “made” for “man,” not just Jews.

(Once again, off topic here.)

3) The other nine commandments are not “just for Jews.” God wrote “Ten Commandments” on stone, not just nine (See Deut. 4:12, 13; Ex. 20). Does “Do not commit adultery,” “Do not murder,” “Do not steal,” and “Do not bear false witness” apply only to Jews?

( You make the Torah/Law the salvation instead of a teacher)

4) “The seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God.” Exodus 20:10. God calls the Sabbath, “my holy day.” Isaiah 58:13. The Bible never calls it “the Sabbath of the Jews.” It isn’t their Sabbath, but God’s.

(I never called it the Sabbath of the Jews either.)

5) The Sabbath commandment is for the “stranger” too. The fourth commandment itself says the “stranger” is to rest on the Sabbath. Exodus 20:10. “Strangers” are non-Jews, or Gentiles. Thus the Sabbath applies to them too. Read also Isaiah 56:6.

(This law was only applicable within the boundaries of Israel)

6) Isaiah said Gentiles should keep the Sabbath. “Also the sons of the stranger … every one that keeps the Sabbath … for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people .” Isaiah 56:6, 7. Thus the Sabbath is for Gentiles and “all people,” not just for Jews.

(Jesus is the fulfillment of Isaiah 56:1 and it is no longer necessary for a Gentile to sojourn as a stranger Acts 13:48)


7) “All” mankind will keep the Sabbath in the New Earth. In “the new earth … from one Sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, says the Lord.” Isaiah 66:22, 23. Here God says that “all flesh” we will be keeping the Sabbath in “the new earth.” If this is the case – and it is – shouldn’t we start now?

( No, we shouldn`t start now. We should start when God tells us to.)

8) Gentiles kept the Sabbath in the Book of Acts. “The Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath … Paul and Barnabas … persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.”‘ Acts 13:42, 43. Here saved-by-grace Gentiles kept the Sabbath (see also verse 44).

(Attending a Synagogue on Saturday to hear a sermon does not = Sabbath keeping.)

9) “The law” [of Ten Commandments] is for “all the world,” not just for Jews. Paul wrote these words. Read Romans 2:17-23; 3:19, 23.

(The verses you cite do not match your contention)

10) Luke was a Gentile who kept the Sabbath. Luke was the only Gentile who wrote any New Testament books (he wrote The Gospel According to St. Luke and The Acts of the Apostles). Luke traveled with Paul and wrote, “On the Sabbath we went out of the city by a river side.” Acts 16:13. It was the seventh-day Sabbath, the memorial of the creation (see Ex. 20:11). Both Luke and Paul knew it.

( There is no evidence that Luke was a Gentile though he might have been a prosolyte. However, Attending a Synagogue on Saturday to hear a sermon does not = Sabbath keeping. It doesn`t make a difference whether Luke kept the Sabbath or whether he didn`t.)

imge said:

You do understand the difference between ceremonial laws, traditions and commandments right? In case not here are Gods Commandments (google it yourself). Gods law never changed which is why its repeated throughout old and new testaments and close to the last versus in the Bible.

Revelations 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.


Exodus 20 3:17

The Ten Commandments

3 “You shall have no other gods before Me.

4 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; 5 you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, 6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

7 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.

8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

12 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.

13 “You shall not murder.

14 “You shall not commit adultery.

15 “You shall not steal.

16 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

17 “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”

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The commands in the NT are not from the Decalogue, but from the law of Christ, aka the law of love, the 2 commandments
The Decalogue that you want to keep, is the letter that KILLS, the ministry of DEATH, and the ministry of CONDEMNATION, contrasted with the law of the spirit, that brings life.
In Galatians 4:21-31Paul compares two covenants, the covenant of bondage and slavery, is the one given on Mount SINAI is the slave covenant.
In Acts 15 the church met about the claims by Pharisees that the gentiles must be circumcised AND keep the law of Moses.
Peter calls the law of Moses a burdensome yoke that neither the fathers, nor they, could bear.
The ten commands ARE the covenant in two tables of stone, says scripture, thus when the old covenant ended, so did the Decalogue, aka, the ten commands.
Gods moral law is restated in the NT, but never did Jesus list the fourth command, because it was never moral law, but a sign covenant given only to Israel, to commemorate their being set free from slavery in Egypt.

imge said:

Is this scripture not clear?
1 Corinthians 7:19 Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters.

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And the ten commands are no longer the commands of God, in fact Paul makes it crystal clear that the law is meant only for sinners and the ungodly, and thus only applies today, to the unsaved, to show them what sin. Is, and not to born again believers, who have died to the law.
The commands now are the two love commands, that don’t require keeping any days, which is why the apostles chose to assemble together on the Lords day, in honor of the day Jesus rose from the dead.

TruthSeek3r said:

Isn't this passage talking about the old covenant? Is there scriptural evidence of gentiles being expected to keep the Sabbath in the new covenant?

Isn't the Sabbath on Saturdays?

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What day the Sabbath is can be a dicey thing. I lived in Europe for 14 years while growing up. The Calendars, there, begin on Monday and end on Sunday.

There have also been historical shifts in calendars (Julian to Gregorian).

I think that "a" Seventh Day is more important than which day that is.

chad kincham said:

The commands in the NT are not from the Decalogue, but from the law of Christ, aka the law of love, the 2 commandments
The Decalogue that you want to keep, is the letter that KILLS, the ministry of DEATH, and the ministry of CONDEMNATION, contrasted with the law of the spirit, that brings life.
In Galatians 4:21-31Paul compares two covenants, the covenant of bondage and slavery, is the one given on Mount SINAI is the slave covenant.
In Acts 15 the church met about the claims by Pharisees that the gentiles must be circumcised AND keep the law of Moses.
Peter calls the law of Moses a burdensome yoke that neither the fathers, nor they, could bear.
The ten commands ARE the covenant in two tables of stone, says scripture, thus when the old covenant ended, so did the Decalogue, aka, the ten commands.
Gods moral law is restated in the NT, but never did Jesus list the fourth command, because it was never moral law, but a sign covenant given only to Israel, to commemorate their being set free from slavery in Egypt.

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The Sabbath is mentioned 58 times in the New Testaments. Jesus and His disciples kept the seventh-day Sabbath as stated in scripture. You are confusing traditions and ceremonial laws with God's law.
Here is a good explanation on it from Christ, in fulfilling the moral law, abolished it. | Sabbath Truth


It has been said that Christ, in fulfilling the moral law, actually abolished the Ten Commandments. However, let's take a look at what Jesus actually says in Matthew 5:17–19:

1. "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets" (v. 17). Jesus certainly did not do the very thing that He came not to do!
   
2. "I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill." According to Webster's Dictionary, "fulfill," when applied to a law, means "to answer its demands by obedience." It here means the opposite of "destroy," as in the following scriptures: "And shall not uncircumcision, which is by nature, if it fulfill the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?" (Romans 2:27) "Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ" (Galatians 6:2). "If ye fulfill the royal law, according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself, ye do well" (James 2:8).
   
   Thus, those who make this argument would have Christ teach that He came not to destroy the law but to destroy the law. That doesn't make sense, does it?
   
3. "Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in nowise pass from the law" (Matthew 5:18). Heaven and earth still remain; thus, we can know from Jesus' own lips that the law was not and has not been abolished.
   
4. "Till all is fulfilled" (Matthew 5:18). This passage was originally written in Greek. In the Greek language, words that go together must share certain qualities, such as gender or number. The word "all" is neuter in gender and plural in number. Therefore, it cannot refer directly to “law,” which is masculine in gender and singular in number. “All” refers to all things respecting heaven and earth that are spoken of in the prophets (Old Testament).
   
   The term “fulfilled” in this verse comes from a different Greek word than the word “fulfilled” in the expression, "I did not come to destroy, but to fulfill" (verse 17). Here in verse 18, this word means “to come into existence, be created, exist by creation” (William Greenfield, A Greek-English Lexicon to the New Testament). This word “fulfilled” is translated as “made” in John 1:3: "All things were made by him" (KJV). So, again, “fulfill” actually means the opposite of “destroy.”
   
5. Now comes Christ's own conclusion: "Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least [or, as George Campbell renders it, "shall be of no esteem"] in the kingdom of heaven; but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven" (Matthew 5:19). And to emphasize the poing that the law is not abolished, Christ proceeds to explain certain precepts of the law in question in their most spiritual and comprehensive sense.

This law could not cease when Christ came. Three interesting "tills" or "untils" in the New Testament provides convincing evidence of this truth:

1. "The law and the prophets were until John" (Luke 16:16). At the time of John the Baptist, there was a change in the law and the prophets, when he began preaching the kingdom of God. The kingdom of God did not do away with the law and the prophets but added to them. Christ confirmed this in the next verse, making the law firmer than the very pillars of heaven and earth: "And it is easier," He said, "for heaven and earth to pass away than for one tittle of the law to fail" (verse 17).
   
2. "Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in nowise pass from the law."
   
3. "Till all be fulfilled" (Matthew 5:18). That is, ; till all those things to be restored are brought into existence by a new creation. This brings us to the new-earth state, in which righteousness shall dwell (2 Peter 3:13; Psalm 119:172; Isaiah 51:6, 7), and the Sabbath shall continue while eternal ages roll (Isaiah 66:22, 23).

This objection suggests the false doctrine that Christ is the minister of sin. Rather, we believe the Scriptures teach that Christ came to conquer Satan and sin. But according to this objection, the great object of God in sending His Son is frustrated, and Satan and sin triumph at last, for Christ grants men full liberty to transgress all the commandments of God!

As we have seen, the argument that Christ abolished the law is refuted by the Savior’s own words in Matthew chapter 5, by Peter’s prophecy in 2 Peter 3, by the testimony of Old Testament writers in Psalm 119 and Isaiah 51, and by the fact that Christ cannot be the minister of sin.

imge said:

The Sabbath is mentioned 58 times in the New Testaments. Jesus and His disciples kept the seventh-day Sabbath as stated in scripture. You are confusing traditions and ceremonial laws with God's law.
Here is a good explanation on it from Christ, in fulfilling the moral law, abolished it. | Sabbath Truth


It has been said that Christ, in fulfilling the moral law, actually abolished the Ten Commandments. However, let's take a look at what Jesus actually says in Matthew 5:17–19:

1. "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets" (v. 17). Jesus certainly did not do the very thing that He came not to do!
   
2. "I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill." According to Webster's Dictionary, "fulfill," when applied to a law, means "to answer its demands by obedience." It here means the opposite of "destroy," as in the following scriptures: "And shall not uncircumcision, which is by nature, if it fulfill the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?" (Romans 2:27) "Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ" (Galatians 6:2). "If ye fulfill the royal law, according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself, ye do well" (James 2:8).
   
   Thus, those who make this argument would have Christ teach that He came not to destroy the law but to destroy the law. That doesn't make sense, does it?
   
3. "Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in nowise pass from the law" (Matthew 5:18). Heaven and earth still remain; thus, we can know from Jesus' own lips that the law was not and has not been abolished.
   
4. "Till all is fulfilled" (Matthew 5:18). This passage was originally written in Greek. In the Greek language, words that go together must share certain qualities, such as gender or number. The word "all" is neuter in gender and plural in number. Therefore, it cannot refer directly to “law,” which is masculine in gender and singular in number. “All” refers to all things respecting heaven and earth that are spoken of in the prophets (Old Testament).
   
   The term “fulfilled” in this verse comes from a different Greek word than the word “fulfilled” in the expression, "I did not come to destroy, but to fulfill" (verse 17). Here in verse 18, this word means “to come into existence, be created, exist by creation” (William Greenfield, A Greek-English Lexicon to the New Testament). This word “fulfilled” is translated as “made” in John 1:3: "All things were made by him" (KJV). So, again, “fulfill” actually means the opposite of “destroy.”
   
5. Now comes Christ's own conclusion: "Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least [or, as George Campbell renders it, "shall be of no esteem"] in the kingdom of heaven; but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven" (Matthew 5:19). And to emphasize the poing that the law is not abolished, Christ proceeds to explain certain precepts of the law in question in their most spiritual and comprehensive sense.

This law could not cease when Christ came. Three interesting "tills" or "untils" in the New Testament provides convincing evidence of this truth:

1. "The law and the prophets were until John" (Luke 16:16). At the time of John the Baptist, there was a change in the law and the prophets, when he began preaching the kingdom of God. The kingdom of God did not do away with the law and the prophets but added to them. Christ confirmed this in the next verse, making the law firmer than the very pillars of heaven and earth: "And it is easier," He said, "for heaven and earth to pass away than for one tittle of the law to fail" (verse 17).
   
2. "Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in nowise pass from the law."
   
3. "Till all be fulfilled" (Matthew 5:18). That is, ; till all those things to be restored are brought into existence by a new creation. This brings us to the new-earth state, in which righteousness shall dwell (2 Peter 3:13; Psalm 119:172; Isaiah 51:6, 7), and the Sabbath shall continue while eternal ages roll (Isaiah 66:22, 23).

This objection suggests the false doctrine that Christ is the minister of sin. Rather, we believe the Scriptures teach that Christ came to conquer Satan and sin. But according to this objection, the great object of God in sending His Son is frustrated, and Satan and sin triumph at last, for Christ grants men full liberty to transgress all the commandments of God!

As we have seen, the argument that Christ abolished the law is refuted by the Savior’s own words in Matthew chapter 5, by Peter’s prophecy in 2 Peter 3, by the testimony of Old Testament writers in Psalm 119 and Isaiah 51, and by the fact that Christ cannot be the minister of sin.

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How do you reconcile this passage with your opinion?

Romans 4
King James Version

4 What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found?

2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.

3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.

4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.

5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.

8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

9 Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.

10 How was it then reckoned? when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision.

11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:

12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised.

13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.

14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:

15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,

RickReads said:

My comments in ( )

Gods law is not just for the Jews

( I usually don`t respond to cut and paste articles. It`s not a discussion if that is what you going to do.)

1) Adam and Eve were not Jewish. “God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it” (Genesis 2:3) before sin entered. “Sanctified” means “to be set apart for holy use.” The only ones in the Garden of Eden for whom the Sabbath was “set apart” were Adam and Eve, who weren’t Jewish.

(I said same thing more then once to the guy who is stuck on the 10 commandments. This is off topic for the post you are responding to.)

2) “The Sabbath was made for man.” Mark 2:27. Jesus said this. It was “made” in the Garden of Eden before it was “written” down on Mount Sinai. The Sabbath was “made” for “man,” not just Jews.

(Once again, off topic here.)

3) The other nine commandments are not “just for Jews.” God wrote “Ten Commandments” on stone, not just nine (See Deut. 4:12, 13; Ex. 20). Does “Do not commit adultery,” “Do not murder,” “Do not steal,” and “Do not bear false witness” apply only to Jews?

( You make the Torah/Law the salvation instead of a teacher)

4) “The seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God.” Exodus 20:10. God calls the Sabbath, “my holy day.” Isaiah 58:13. The Bible never calls it “the Sabbath of the Jews.” It isn’t their Sabbath, but God’s.

(I never called it the Sabbath of the Jews either.)

5) The Sabbath commandment is for the “stranger” too. The fourth commandment itself says the “stranger” is to rest on the Sabbath. Exodus 20:10. “Strangers” are non-Jews, or Gentiles. Thus the Sabbath applies to them too. Read also Isaiah 56:6.

(This law was only applicable within the boundaries of Israel)

6) Isaiah said Gentiles should keep the Sabbath. “Also the sons of the stranger … every one that keeps the Sabbath … for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people .” Isaiah 56:6, 7. Thus the Sabbath is for Gentiles and “all people,” not just for Jews.

(Jesus is the fulfillment of Isaiah 56:1 and it is no longer necessary for a Gentile to sojourn as a stranger Acts 13:48)


7) “All” mankind will keep the Sabbath in the New Earth. In “the new earth … from one Sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, says the Lord.” Isaiah 66:22, 23. Here God says that “all flesh” we will be keeping the Sabbath in “the new earth.” If this is the case – and it is – shouldn’t we start now?

( No, we shouldn`t start now. We should start when God tells us to.)

8) Gentiles kept the Sabbath in the Book of Acts. “The Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath … Paul and Barnabas … persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.”‘ Acts 13:42, 43. Here saved-by-grace Gentiles kept the Sabbath (see also verse 44).

(Attending a Synagogue on Saturday to hear a sermon does not = Sabbath keeping.)

9) “The law” [of Ten Commandments] is for “all the world,” not just for Jews. Paul wrote these words. Read Romans 2:17-23; 3:19, 23.

(The verses you cite do not match your contention)

10) Luke was a Gentile who kept the Sabbath. Luke was the only Gentile who wrote any New Testament books (he wrote The Gospel According to St. Luke and The Acts of the Apostles). Luke traveled with Paul and wrote, “On the Sabbath we went out of the city by a river side.” Acts 16:13. It was the seventh-day Sabbath, the memorial of the creation (see Ex. 20:11). Both Luke and Paul knew it.

( There is no evidence that Luke was a Gentile though he might have been a prosolyte. However, Attending a Synagogue on Saturday to hear a sermon does not = Sabbath keeping. It doesn`t make a difference whether Luke kept the Sabbath or whether he didn`t.)

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Those who still keep the sabbath are not those who live with God in the city New Jerusalem, they are the nations left alive after Jesus slays all the armies who were attacking Jerusalem when Jesus returns.
They are pagans who are required to come up to worship God, and they have a law similar to the old covenant law, because they sacrifice animals.
This is all found in Zechariah ch. 14.

imge said:

So its okay to kill, lie, covet, worship idols, use Gods name in vain. Really?

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imge said:

So its okay to kill, lie, covet, worship idols, use Gods name in vain. Really?

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The two love commands replaced the ten commands.

It’s blatantly obvious that if you love your neighbor as yourself, you won’t do him any harm: you won’t steal from him, kill him, covet his wife or goods, bear false witness against him, etc,

And if you love God with all your heart, you won’t take His name in vain, or worship idols.

This is so obvious, it shouldn’t even need to be discussed.

The scripture makes it clear, that love fulfills the law of God.

Rom 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there beany other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Rom 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love isthe FULFILLING OF THE LAW.

And this:

Mat 22:36 Master, which isthe great commandment in the law?

Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.

Mat 22:39 And the second islike unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Mat 22:40 On these TWO commandments hang ALL THE LAW and the prophets.

One big difference between the old ten, and the two love commands, is that the two love commands far exceed how well you treat your neighbor.

If you love him as yourself, you’ll do many more acts of kindness for him than the Decalogue requires.

imge said:

The Sabbath is mentioned 58 times in the New Testaments. Jesus and His disciples kept the seventh-day Sabbath as stated in scripture. You are confusing traditions and ceremonial laws with God's law.
Here is a good explanation on it from Christ, in fulfilling the moral law, abolished it. | Sabbath Truth


It has been said that Christ, in fulfilling the moral law, actually abolished the Ten Commandments. However, let's take a look at what Jesus actually says in Matthew 5:17–19:

1. "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets" (v. 17). Jesus certainly did not do the very thing that He came not to do!
   
2. "I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill." According to Webster's Dictionary, "fulfill," when applied to a law, means "to answer its demands by obedience." It here means the opposite of "destroy," as in the following scriptures: "And shall not uncircumcision, which is by nature, if it fulfill the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?" (Romans 2:27) "Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ" (Galatians 6:2). "If ye fulfill the royal law, according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself, ye do well" (James 2:8).
   
   Thus, those who make this argument would have Christ teach that He came not to destroy the law but to destroy the law. That doesn't make sense, does it?
   
3. "Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in nowise pass from the law" (Matthew 5:18). Heaven and earth still remain; thus, we can know from Jesus' own lips that the law was not and has not been abolished.
   
4. "Till all is fulfilled" (Matthew 5:18). This passage was originally written in Greek. In the Greek language, words that go together must share certain qualities, such as gender or number. The word "all" is neuter in gender and plural in number. Therefore, it cannot refer directly to “law,” which is masculine in gender and singular in number. “All” refers to all things respecting heaven and earth that are spoken of in the prophets (Old Testament).
   
   The term “fulfilled” in this verse comes from a different Greek word than the word “fulfilled” in the expression, "I did not come to destroy, but to fulfill" (verse 17). Here in verse 18, this word means “to come into existence, be created, exist by creation” (William Greenfield, A Greek-English Lexicon to the New Testament). This word “fulfilled” is translated as “made” in John 1:3: "All things were made by him" (KJV). So, again, “fulfill” actually means the opposite of “destroy.”
   
5. Now comes Christ's own conclusion: "Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least [or, as George Campbell renders it, "shall be of no esteem"] in the kingdom of heaven; but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven" (Matthew 5:19). And to emphasize the poing that the law is not abolished, Christ proceeds to explain certain precepts of the law in question in their most spiritual and comprehensive sense.

This law could not cease when Christ came. Three interesting "tills" or "untils" in the New Testament provides convincing evidence of this truth:

1. "The law and the prophets were until John" (Luke 16:16). At the time of John the Baptist, there was a change in the law and the prophets, when he began preaching the kingdom of God. The kingdom of God did not do away with the law and the prophets but added to them. Christ confirmed this in the next verse, making the law firmer than the very pillars of heaven and earth: "And it is easier," He said, "for heaven and earth to pass away than for one tittle of the law to fail" (verse 17).
   
2. "Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in nowise pass from the law."
   
3. "Till all be fulfilled" (Matthew 5:18). That is, ; till all those things to be restored are brought into existence by a new creation. This brings us to the new-earth state, in which righteousness shall dwell (2 Peter 3:13; Psalm 119:172; Isaiah 51:6, 7), and the Sabbath shall continue while eternal ages roll (Isaiah 66:22, 23).

This objection suggests the false doctrine that Christ is the minister of sin. Rather, we believe the Scriptures teach that Christ came to conquer Satan and sin. But according to this objection, the great object of God in sending His Son is frustrated, and Satan and sin triumph at last, for Christ grants men full liberty to transgress all the commandments of God!

As we have seen, the argument that Christ abolished the law is refuted by the Savior’s own words in Matthew chapter 5, by Peter’s prophecy in 2 Peter 3, by the testimony of Old Testament writers in Psalm 119 and Isaiah 51, and by the fact that Christ cannot be the minister of sin.

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Jesus fulfilling the law is like a contract to build a house.

When the house is built, the contract to build it isn’t destroyed, it simply ends, having been FULFILLED.

Friedrich Rubinstein said:

There is no verse in the Bible that tells us gentiles to keep the Sabbath. In fact when you look at Acts 15:28-29 the Apostles gave the gentiles only the following orders:
"It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things."

But there is a passage in Isaiah 56 that reads like this:

"Let no foreigner who is bound to the Lord say, “The Lord will surely exclude me from his people.” And let no eunuch complain, “I am only a dry tree.” For this is what the Lord says: “To the eunuchs who keep my Sabbaths, who choose what pleases me and hold fast to my covenant — to them I will give within my temple and its walls a memorial and a name better than sons and daughters; I will give them an everlasting name that will endure forever.
And foreigners who bind themselves to the Lord to minister to him, to love the name of the Lord, and to be his servants, all who keep the Sabbath without desecrating it and who hold fast to my covenant — these I will bring to my holy mountain and give them joy in my house of prayer.
Their burnt offerings and sacrifices will be accepted on my altar; for my house will be called a house of prayer for all nations.”

That's a valuable passage, don't you think?

And consider this as well: even if we gentiles were not "forced" to keep the Sabbath - would it not be a much better testimony to other people to keep it? If the people around us see us working on Sundays while we claim to be Christians, they would think we don't take God very seriously and we would be negligent with other commands as well. Simply because "keeping the Sabbath" is like the best known "Christian rule".

Plus, according to 1Jn 2:6 we shall live as Jesus did. And Jesus kept the Sabbath (except when He did good works, healing people and such). So, the priority-list might look like this:
1) Helping our neighbour on Sabbath if he really needs it
2) Resting on Sabbath

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I understand what you are saying but I defer to Galatians chapter 5 and other scripture that say do not let one put a yoke on you when you have been freed by Christ. In other words don't let religion burden you with unnecessary rules and regulations. No one can bear the burden of the religious leaders who create such rules to distinguish themselves.

Kenny'sID said:

Ok I asked you if you had to do good in order to get to heaven, and since you would not give me a direct yes or no, I can only assume you are saying no, we need not do good and grace only is sufficient:

Please read the following and then I post the same question, is Jesus incorrect, or do we have to do good after all in order to get to heaven? Or is grace still sufficient?

John 5:28-29 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemne

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Let me ask you a question.

Before anyone performs any great works, do they first need to be washed in the blood of Christ?

Do people need to be believers before they can perform a commandment?

The linen we wear; is that given to us or do we wash and scrub our own filthy rags. Into white linen that is whiter than a laundry can produce?

klutedavid said:

Let me ask you a question.

Before anyone performs any great works, do they first need to be washed in the blood of Christ?

Do people need to be believers before they can perform a commandment?

The linen we wear; is that given to us or do we wash and scrub our own filthy rags. Into white linen that is whiter than a laundry can produce?

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If you won't answer questions from me, then please don't ask them of me.

Kenny'sID said:

If you won't answer questions from me, then please don't ask them of me.

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We are saved by God's grace first and foremost.

We are created in Christ Jesus for good works. (Ephesians 2:10)

Therefore grace comes first and works flow from the indwelling Holy Spirit.

Would anyone dare to say that one is saved by faith plus works. Not on your life would any vile and filthy sinner utter such a heresy.

John 1:16
For of His fullness we have all received, and grace upon grace.

Acts 15:11
But we believe that we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, in the same way as they also are.

Acts 18:27
And when he wanted to go across to Achaia, the brethren encouraged him and wrote to the disciples to welcome him; and when he had arrived, he greatly helped those who had believed through grace.

Acts 20:24
But I do not consider my life of any account as dear to myself, so that I may finish my course and the ministry which I received from the Lord Jesus, to testify solemnly of the gospel of the grace of God.

klutedavid said:

You were commanded to believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Show me that command in the Torah.

Jesus said not to divorce except for immorality. Show me that commandment in the Torah.

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Deuteronomy 18:15

Psalm 16:10

Psalm 22

Luke 24:27

Acts 3:22

“Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh. And the man and his wife were both naked and were not ashamed.” (Genesis 2:24–25)

“And Pharisees came up and in order to test him asked, ‘Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?’ He answered them, ‘What did Moses command you?’ They said, ‘Moses allowed a man to write a certificate of divorce and to send her away.’ And Jesus said to them, ‘Because of your hardness of heart he wrote you this commandment. But from the beginning of creation, ‘God made them male and female.’ ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.’ And in the house the disciples asked him again about this matter. And he said to them, ‘Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her, and if she divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery.’” (Mark 10:2–12)

imge said:

So its okay to kill, lie, covet, worship idols, use Gods name in vain. Really?

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The two love commands replaced the ten commands.


It’s blatantly obvious that if you love your neighbor as yourself, you won’t do him any harm: you won’t steal from him, kill him, covet his wife or goods, bear false witness against him, etc,


And if you love God with all your heart, you won’t take His name in vain, or worship idols.


This is so obvious, it shouldn’t even need to be discussed.

chad kincham said:

The two love commands replaced the ten commands.

It’s blatantly obvious that if you love your neighbor as yourself, you won’t do him any harm: you won’t steal from him, kill him, covet his wife or goods, bear false witness against him, etc,

And if you love God with all your heart, you won’t take His name in vain, or worship idols.

This is so obvious, it shouldn’t even need to be discussed.

The scripture makes it clear, that love fulfills the law of God.

Rom 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there beany other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Rom 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the FULFILLING OF THE LAW.

And this:

Mat 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.

Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Mat 22:40 On these TWO commandments hang ALL THE LAW and the prophets.

One big difference between the old ten, and the two love commands, is that the two love commands far exceed how well you treat your neighbor.

If you love him as yourself, you’ll do many more acts of kindness for him than the Decalogue requires.

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Yeshua did not give 2 new commandments...love God and your neighbor are both in the Torah...in Deuteronomy and in Leviticus...

chad kincham said:

The two love commands replaced the ten commands.

This is so obvious, it shouldn’t even need to be discussed.

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It does not replace them, it summarizes them...love God are the first 4 and love your neighbor are the last 6.

imge said:

In the second coming God will be judging every man according to his works. There will be two choices for each of us- eternal life or death. In the OT people were stoned for being wicked and not keeping the sabbath and I don't think it will be much different when Jesus returns. The Bible says you are either with Him or against Him. There is no lukewarm.

I was raised SDA and went away from it for a long time. Not that I didn't believe, but not following Him the way we are supposed to. I used to think the the narrow gate was really not that narrow, but now I think the scripture is exactly as it reads Mathew 7:13-14 NKJV 13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

God cast Lucifer out of Heaven. I do not think He is going to have lukewarm Christians in heaven. You have to believe in Him, love Him with all your heart and obey, which includes Gods laws.

The other scripture that really stand out is knowing God. 1 John 2:14 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. Which commandment is about knowing God? The one that starts with Remember:

Exodus 20:8-11 8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

The 4th commandment is the only one that uses the word Holy. It's the only one the Lord blessed. The only one that begins with Remember. This must be a special commandment why? Because this is the day that we get to cease our work and put away all our stresses of the world and focus on our relationship with Jesus Christ. Its the day He asked us to worship Him and its the day we can spend precious time getting to know Him.

Which is why this scripture is so important: 1 John 2:14 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

For those who are so adamant about Sabbath being "done away with" why don't you give it a try? What do you have to lose? Go to church one Sabbath and keep the entire day Holy (Friday sundown to Saturday sundown). Go to church, read the Bible, pray. It really is a blessing and why God blessed His special day.

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The reason the Decalogue (Ten Commands) are no longer in effect, but have ended, is found in 2 Corinthians chapter three, wherein we find that the Ten Commands are: the ministration of DEATH, the letter which KILLS, and the ministration of CONDEMNATION which is contrasted with the new covenant (testament) of the spirit, that gives life.


2Co 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

2Co 3:7 But if the ministration of death, written andengraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glorywas to be done away:

2Co 3:8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?

2Co 3:9 For if the ministration of condemnation beglory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.

2Co 3:10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.

2Co 3:11 For if that which is DONE AWAY wasglorious, much more that which remaineth isglorious.


The reason the Ten commands kills, brings death, and condemnation is due to the fact that the penalty under the law for breaking any of the Ten, was being put to death by stoning.


The penalty for killing - put to death:

Exo 21:12 He that smiteth a man, so that he die, shall be surely put to death.


The penalty for not honoring your mother and father: put to death by stoning:

Lev 20:9 For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put todeath: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall beupon him.


The penalty for adultery: put to death by stoning:

Lev 20:10 And the man that committeth adultery with anotherman's wife, even hethat committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.


The penalty for breaking the sabbath by doing any work, such as picking up sticks for kindling: put to death by stoning:

Exo 31:14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it isholy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth anywork therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.


If the Ten Commands are still in effect, the penalty for breaking them is still in effect, thus those who insist on keeping the ended covenant that contained the Ten Commands, are breaking the law themselves, by not stoning to death those who break the commands.


You can't have one without the other.

Imagine you were doing a ride along with a police officer, and you see that he ignores traffic law violations: speeding, running red lights, reckless driving, drunk driving, etc.


During the conversation you have with the officer, he says, "yes, I believe in the traffic laws. I keep those laws, myself - I just don't enforce them".


Sabbath day keepers, and Ten Commandment keepers are saying, those commands are still in effect and we keep them, but we don't enforce the law, as is required BY the law.


The ten commands ended when the old covenant ended, because the ten are called “the covenant on two tables of stone” in scripture - thus when the old covenant ended, the ten commands ended with it - including the fourth command.


Invariably some people will claim that the new covenant is simply the old covenant restated, because they want to keep the 7th day command in effect, but that argument won’t hold water.


Scripture says the new covenant is a BETTER covenant, founded on BETTER PROMISES - not the old one recycled.


And says if the old one was faultless, there’d be no need for a new covenant.


The truth of the matter is, God rested on the seventh day one time only - not weekly - but did not command anyone else to keep a seventh day sabbath at that time.


You won’t find the word sabbath anywhere in Genesis, nor find Abraham or anyone else in Genesis resting on the 7th day - because there was no such command until God gave it to Israel as a covenant sign of His freeing them from slavery in Egypt, after their Exodus.


Moses said concerning the law God gave to Israel, which includes the Decalogue:


Deu 5:1 And Moses called all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your ears this day, that ye may learn them, and keep, and do them.

Deu 5:2 The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.

Deu 5:3 The LORD made NOT this covenant with our fathers, but with US evenus, who areall of us here alive this day.


And God says why and to who He first gave the command to keep the 7th day:


Deu 5:15 And REMEMBER that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and thatthe LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: THEREFORE the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.


The sabbath day command was given only to Israel as a covenant sign and memorial of their being set free from slavery in Egypt.


Exo 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of ISRAEL, saying, Verily my sabbaths YE shall keep: for itisa SIGN between ME and YOU throughout YOUR generations; that yemay know that I amthe LORD that doth sanctify YOU.


God divorced Israel for spiritual adultery in Jeremiah 3:8 for adultery, which ended their covenant with God - and the Decalogue is called the COVENANT on two tables of stone - thus obviously when the old covenant ended, the ten commands ended.


God allowed the Jewish temple to be destroyed because the mosaic covenant was no more, and ended the sabbaths:


Lam 2:5 The Lord was as an enemy: he hath swallowed up Israel, he hath swallowed up all her palaces: he hath destroyed his strong holds, and hath increased in the daughter of Judah mourning and lamentation.


Lam 2:6 And he hath violently taken away his tabernacle, as if it were of a garden: he hath destroyed his places of the assembly: the LORD hath caused the solemn feasts and SABBATHS to be forgotten in Zion, and hath despised in the indignation of his anger the king and the priest.


Lam 2:7 The Lord hath cast off his altar, he hath abhorred his sanctuary, he hath given up into the hand of the enemy the walls of her palaces; they have made a noise in the house of the LORD, as in the day of a solemn feast.


And in Galatians ch 4, Paul contrasts the two covenants, calling the one from Mount SINAI bondage.


Gal 4:21 Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not listen to the law?


Gal 4:22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by a slave woman and one by a free woman.


Gal 4:23 But the son of the slave was born according to the flesh, while the son of the free woman was born through promise.


Gal 4:24 Now this may be interpreted allegorically: these women are two covenants. One is from Mount SINAI, bearing children for SLAVERY; she is Hagar.


Gal 4:25 Now Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia; she corresponds to the PRESENT JERUSALEM for she is in slavery with her children.


Gal 4:26 But the Jerusalem ABOVE is free, and SHE is our mother.


Gal 4:27 For it is written, “Rejoice, O barren one who does not bear; break forth and cry aloud, you who are not in labor! For the children of the desolate one will be more than those of the one who has a husband.”


Gal 4:28 Now you, brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise.


Gal 4:29 But just as at that time he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so also it is now.


Gal 4:30 But what does the Scripture say? “Cast out the slave woman and her son, for the son of the slave woman shall not inherit with the son of the free woman.”


Gal 4:31 So, brothers, we are not children of the SLAVE but of the free woman.


The old covenant from Mount Sinai represents bondage, but we are under the new covenant.


In Acts 15:5 there were those claiming gentile believers must be circumcised AND KEEP THE LAW OF MOSES.


Peter responding to that, calls the law of Moses a yoke of bondage.


Act 15:7 And after there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them, “Brothers, you know that in the early days God made a choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe.


Act 15:8 And God, who knows the heart, bore witness to them, by giving them the Holy Spirit just as he did to us,


Act 15:9 and he made no distinction between us and them, having cleansed their hearts by faith.


Act 15:10 Now, therefore, why are you putting God to the test by placing a yoke on the neck of the disciples that neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear?


Their conclusion after meeting together over the claim gentiles must keep the law of Moses, was:


Act 15:19 Therefore my judgment is that we should not trouble those of the Gentiles who turn to God,


Act 15:20 but should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood.


The Old Covenant ten has been replaced by the two love commands, neither of which include the requirement to keep the 7th day, or any day.


The two love commands are different from the old ten, because they are kept out of love, not out of fear of the punishment of death by stoning for breaking them.


When the New Testament mentions Gods commandments, as in keeping Gods commandments, it’s NOT the Decalogue that is meant, but the TWO commands:


The scripture makes it clear, that love fulfills the law of God.


Rom 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there beany other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Rom 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love isthe FULFILLING OF THE LAW.


And this:

Mat 22:36 Master, which isthe great commandment in the law?

Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.

Mat 22:39 And the second islike unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Mat 22:40 On these TWO commandments hang ALL THE LAW and the prophets.


One big difference between the old ten, and the two love commands, is that the two love commands far exceed how well you treat your neighbor.


If you love him as yourself, you’ll do many more acts of kindness for him than the Decalogue requires.


Some fallacious arguments: if the Ten Commandments are not in effect, that means we can lie, steal, kill, worship idols, etc.


On the contrary, it should be obvious, that if you love your neighbor as yourself, you won’t do him any harm: you won’t steal from him, kill him, covet his wife or goods, bear false witness against him, etc,


And if you love God with all your heart, you won’t take His name in vain, or worship idols.


Another fallacious argument: Jesus kept the sabbath - of course He did, because the old covenant law was still in effect until He died on the cross.


Another one: Paul kept the sabbath over 80 times in Acts - Paul was found every sabbath preaching to the sabbath keeping Jews (who were only there to hear Paul evangelize on the 7th day), that Jesus is their Messiah.


If he preached in the synagogue on Sunday, he’d be preaching to empty seats.


The fact is, when the apostles assembled together for church, it was on the first day of the week:


Joh 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first dayof the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace beunto you.


The reason they were free to select Sunday to assemble together, is because there is no requirement to keep any days at all, in the two commandments.

imge said:

So its okay to kill, lie, covet, worship idols, use Gods name in vain. Really?

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Some fallacious arguments: if the Ten Commandments are not in effect, that means we can lie, steal, kill, worship idols, etc.

We are now under the two love commands, which fulfills ALL the law.


It should be obvious, that if you love your neighbor as yourself, you won’t do him any harm: you won’t steal from him, kill him, covet his wife or goods, bear false witness against him, etc,


And if you love God with all your heart, you won’t take His name in vain, or worship idols.


Another fallacious argument: Jesus kept the sabbath - of course He did, because the old covenant law was still in effect until He died on the cross.


Another one: Paul kept the sabbath over 80 times in Acts - Paul was found every sabbath preaching to the sabbath keeping Jews (who were only there to hear Paul evangelize on the 7th day), that Jesus is their Messiah.


If he preached in the synagogue on Sunday, he’d be preaching to empty seats.

Yeshua HaDerekh said:

It does not replace them, it summarizes them...love God are the first 4 and love your neighbor are the last 6.

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The Old Covenant ten has been replaced by the two love commands, neither of which include the requirement to keep the 7th day, or any day.


The two love commands are different from the old ten, because they are kept out of love, not out of fear of the punishment of death by stoning for breaking them.


When the New Testament mentions Gods commandments, as in keeping Gods commandments, it’s NOT the Decalogue that is meant, but the TWO commands:


The scripture makes it clear, that love fulfills the law of God.


Rom 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there beany other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Rom 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love isthe FULFILLING OF THE LAW.


And this:

Mat 22:36 Master, which isthe great commandment in the law?

Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.

Mat 22:39 And the second islike unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Mat 22:40 On these TWO commandments hang ALL THE LAW and the prophets.


One big difference between the old ten, and the two love commands, is that the two love commands far exceed how well you treat your neighbor.


If you love him as yourself, you’ll do many more acts of kindness for him than the Decalogue requires.


Some fallacious arguments: if the Ten Commandments are not in effect, that means we can lie, steal, kill, worship idols, etc.


On the contrary, it should be obvious, that if you love your neighbor as yourself, you won’t do him any harm: you won’t steal from him, kill him, covet his wife or goods, bear false witness against him, etc,


And if you love God with all your heart, you won’t take His name in vain, or worship other gods or idols.