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This is so sad that I really have to have this conversation. It seems like every little thing in history they want to erase now and modifying the US Constitution in any way, shape, or form is an insult to the people who died fighting for it.
 
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This is so sad that I really have to have this conversation. It seems like every little thing in history they want to erase now and modifying the US Constitution in any way, shape, or form is an insult to the people who died fighting for it.
Modifying the Constitution is not a bad thing. You have the right to vote because the Constitution was modified with the 19th amendment.
 
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Keeping within the rules of this website,.. how do you think that we can accomplish this? Number one I think that it would be for the better to re-elect Trump and just let him do his job. Two,.. start making arrests towards violent people,.. and three stop trying to turn America into a communist country. Does anybody else have any ideas? @RushMAN, @JohnDB?

If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves,
and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways;

then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin,
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I have to admit that I need to educate myself a bit more but I do know this one thing. Even if it's not supposed to be his job, he's making it his job anyways because unlike Biden (who couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it) he cares. He cares about this country and the people in it instead of not even trying to do anything about it like Biden.
What more is Biden supposed to do besides publicly condemning the violence several times? While he has a large public profile because he's the Democratic candidate for President, he's fundamentally a private citizen.
 
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Tulsi who? I didn't realize that you could have more than two candidates for a presidential election. :scratch:
Tulsi Gabbard. Rep from Hawaii. Yes, you don't have to vote for whoever is on the ballot. You can literally write in any name you want. I believe a Governor from Alaska was actually elected that way.
 
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This is so sad that I really have to have this conversation. It seems like every little thing in history they want to erase now and modifying the US Constitution in any way, shape, or form is an insult to the people who died fighting for it.
The Constitution includes a provision for modifying it. You can't support the Constitution without support the fact that it was designed to be changed if enough people saw the need for it.
 
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Modifying the Constitution is not a bad thing. You have the right to vote because the Constitution was modified with the 19th amendment.



Yeah, but they shouldn't be taking away any rights though.




Tulsi Gabbard. Rep from Hawaii. Yes, you don't have to vote for whoever is on the ballot. You can literally write in any name you want. I believe a Governor from Alaska was actually elected that way.







Oh I'm sorry, I just misunderstood you is all.
 
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Sorry,.. but I'm done answering silly questions to people who do not wish to listen. Been there, done that, moving on.
Have a wonderful evening then!
 
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Sorry,.. but I'm done answering silly questions to people who do not wish to listen. Been there, done that, moving on.
But you haven't been answering questions. You make broad statements and then when people ask for examples avoid the question.
 
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Yeah, but they shouldn't be taking away any rights though.
Privileges being taken away feels like rights to the ones that are losing them. You have to look at what is being taken away and if it overly hurts you more than it is helping others.

I find a lot of what people get upset about is no skin off my back when I look at it. I have been a very private person because most people didn't like what I was. But they don't get to be in my private spaces, so I learned to be me there.

But, some people can't do that. And in a city, you learn real fast there are those that have to express themselves in some public space. You learn to tolerate them, work up a new social contract, and go on your way.

I get where you are coming from. You have been on the straight and narrow path, and you expect everyone else to do so. But that straight and narrow path has been used to suppress so many people, that we are finding each other and talking out now, and have been doing to for a while.

Going back to the ideal world that I think you want is not going to happen, not without a lot of pain and violence. And some people have had a life full of that already, they have nothing left to lose. I would rather work on giving them something to make things more equal than for the whole thing to blow up, which is what Trump's actions are going to lead to.

There is a lot of things you can do to control your private life, just don't expect the rest of the world to support it. And if you can adjust to that, maybe you can see that you are not losing rights, but privileges.
 
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Yeah, but they shouldn't be taking away any rights though.
What proposed amendments, with a realistic chance of passing, are going to take away what rights?
 
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Keeping within the rules of this website,.. how do you think that we can accomplish this? Number one I think that it would be for the better to re-elect Trump and just let him do his job. Two,.. start making arrests towards violent people,.. and three stop trying to turn America into a communist country. Does anybody else have any ideas? @RushMAN, @JohnDB?

Repealing the 16th amendment would be a great way to ensure that our labor (and thus more and more of it) doesn't become state owned and instead remains in the hands, and thus control, of those who actually earn the fruits thereof. The GOP would never do this though...in fact, the GOP were the crafters of the 16th amendment initially so they could build the military industrial complex they so desired to compete with Japan, Germany, and Russia right as WWI was beginning. This too was supported by the Southern Democratic Party as a way of retribution for Reconstruction. "The North has all the money...so let's tax them and get some of it!"
 
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Repealing the 16th amendment would be a great way to ensure that our labor (and thus more and more of it) doesn't become state owned and instead remains in the hands, and thus control, of those who actually earn the fruits thereof. The GOP would never do this though...in fact, the GOP were the crafters of the 16th amendment initially so they could build the military industrial complex they so desired to compete with Japan and Russia right as WWI ended. This too was supported by the Southern Democratic Party as a way of retribution for Reconstruction. "The North has all the money...so let's tax them and get some of it!"
Uh, the Amendment passed Congress in 1909 and was ratified in 1913, both before WWI had even started. And it was the Democrats and progressive Republicans who supported the Amendment, not the conservatives like you are implying.
 
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