America Is No Longer Free :(

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Yes, they are... and right now the people being arrested or fined are people of faith protesting, or outright refusing to comply with, state orders surrounding coronavirus restrictions.

Those people have a place for proper redress of grievances, the court.

Some of these cases will likely go all the way to the Supreme Court if need be for rulings, which if judged in our favor will create precedent for future generations.

We have a battle, but right now it's still a winnable one...







I'm glad you brought that up because that is proof that God doesn't mean much to the rest of the world as He used to. Christians are getting murdered for their beliefs. It's all very sad and tragic. :(



We are in a civil war right now and those of on the side of right and justice need to understand that. There is strong evil out threre






I guess it sort of is like a civil war even though I really don't think the military are involved,.. only because they won't let Trump send them in.
 
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What is it you don't understand about the first statement? Do you feel people should be imprisoned for hating the flag?







No I never said that. I just don't understand why anybody would want to. It's not our nation's fault that we're in this mess,.. it's the people in it. Mostly the kind of people who run the government.
 
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Certainly, they didn't want government dictating faith either... but you can hardly understand concepts found inside the constitution without a background in Christian theology and belief in God.
Well, yeah they were men of the age, Christianity was, at least, imbued into them.

But remember, they were also challenging the “divine right” of George III to continue to rule.

In effect, telling the Monarch to prove “God’s on the King’s side”.

That there, takes a “faith“ that’s is lacking today!

The faith of good, honest hard working AMERICANS can do anything together but nothing apart.
 
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The left don't what extreme right people. Making decisions on our personal lives, and other peoples personal life's. That what Trump does to buy the Ultra Right Christian.


To be fair the right doesn't want what the extreme left either.
I believe we may have just glimpsed the crux of the matter!
 
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No I never said that. I just don't understand why anybody would want to. It's not our nation's fault that we're in this mess,.. it's the people in it. Mostly the kind of people who run the government.

What comprises a nation? If not the people?
 
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So she loves babies give the poor woman a break.
I don't care if she likes babies. Babies are cute , but horrible, nightmare brats. As long as she leaves LBTG and abortions alone. I don't care.
 
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You missed the point. I just meant that people are taking it out on the flag and disrespecting it for no reason.

I think I see the point now. It's not the principles of freedom the U.S. flag is supposed to stand for. It's the people of the U.S., many of whom simply see no value in those principles.
 
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No I never said that. I just don't understand why anybody would want to.
I don't understand why anybody would want to either; but that's not the point! The point is, the fact that they can is an EXAMPLE of freedom, not a lack of it.
 
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That is a statement we would expect all Christians to grasp with joy.

As Christians we have the concept that "you can disagree agreeably"

As Christians we can share opposing views on "purely political" questions - then say at the end of that discussion "thank you for sharing your views and listening to my views on that purely political topic - now lets have our Bible study and pray together."
I read enough of the bible. If I wanted to read the bible I would. But I don't. And it's my right. So! No .
 
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I don't care if she likes babies. Babies are cute , but horrible, nightmare brats. As long as she leaves LBTG and abortions alone. I don't care.



No offense or anything but that's a disgusting attitude to have.



So, Adopting children means nothing to me.





Oh yeah? Well I'm adopted myself lady and I am really sick and tired of your attitude!! :mad:



I don't understand why anybody would want to either; but that's not the point! The point is, the fact that they can is an EXAMPLE of freedom, not a lack of it.






True, good point.
 
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They think they do. Therein lies the problem.
So what if the RIGHT think they own the flag more than the LEFT! Does the left have a passion for the nation or don't they? If they do there's no reason to dishonour the flag. If it means something different to you then does for the right fair enough but it is the flag of the country. If you love the country you won't destroy it's symbol.
 
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I read enough of the bible. If I wanted to read the bible I would. But I don't. And it's my right. So! No .

The poster your responding to, on a Christian-based discussion forum, gave a hypothetical example of what Christians are quite capable (and willing to do) of doing when disagreement on matters of politics arise...

He wasn't suggesting forcing anyone read God's word if they didn't want..
 
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So, Adopting children means nothing to me.

She intentionally took children of another race (black children) into her home to raise them as her own, and give them a better life than they would otherwise have had...

It's not an example of what an "ultra-right" racist would do so it's incorrect to group her as such..

This was the point.
 
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I don't mean to pry, but I'm really curious what was written here.
The rules won’t allow me to discuss any run-in(s) with the Constabulary beyond mentioning that I’m keeping to being very circumspect. Thank you for your understanding.
 
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