2 Black Lives Matter demonstrators are facing life in prison.

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2 Black Lives Matter demonstrators are facing life in prison. Experts say the 'deeply disturbing' potential sentences are an 'unprecedented' form of government overreach.

2 Black Lives Matter demonstrators are facing life in prison. Experts say the 'deeply disturbing' potential sentences are an 'unprecedented' form of government overreach.
A pair of lawyers fire bombed a police van......

The van was abandoned and they clearly do not warrant anywhere near a life sentence. But if your throwing a petrol bomb you are not protesting, but rioting.
 
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"In one instance in June, the US Attorney's Office for the Middle District of Florida charged Ivan Jacob Zecher with unlawful interstate commerce after police officers found a Molotov cocktail in his backpack that had been made using a Patron tequila bottle. Prosecutors said the charge was valid because the tequila bottle was manufactured in Mexico and shipped to the United States."

"A legal expert speculated to The Appeal that Rahman and Mattis were charged with arson in interstate commerce because the New York Police Department receives federal funding and supplies — including vehicles like the one burned — from out of state."

That's some baloney. Or maybe chorizo.
 
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A But if your throwing a petrol bomb you are not protesting, but rioting.

Clearly, that is way to technical a point for most these folks to grasp. People simply do not seem to be able to make that distinction anymore.
 
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Clearly, that is way to technical a point for most these folks to grasp.

What are you talking about? :scratch:

Is the claim that since they bombed police they are "rioters," not protestors, and are therefore unaffiliated with BLM (protests)?
  • Protests are not inherently peaceful. "Violent protestors" is not an oxymoron and "peaceful protestors" is not a redundancy.
  • The criminals were described in the article as "demonstrators," not "protestors," a term which is often used because of its broader meaning, and which certainly includes violent actors.
  • This is a silly semantic quibble which has nothing to do with their relation to BLM.

People simply do not seem to be able to make that distinction anymore.

Yes, it seems that we are having a very difficult time with distinctions in this thread, such as how to spell the words, "too," or, "you're." :rolleyes:
 
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What are you talking about? :scratch:

Is the claim that since they bombed police they are "rioters," not protestors, and are therefore unaffiliated with BLM (protests)?
  • Protests are not inherently peaceful. "Violent protestors" is not an oxymoron and "peaceful protestors" is not a redundancy.
  • The criminals were described in the article as "demonstrators," not "protestors," a term which is often used because of its broader meaning, and which certainly includes violent actors.
  • This is a silly semantic quibble which has nothing to do with their relation to BLM.



Yes, it seems that we are having a very difficult time with distinctions in this thread, such as how to spell the words, "too," or, "you're." :rolleyes:


I am talking about the difference between legal protests and illegal riots. If a protest devolves to include violence, it is no longer a protest, it is a riot.

Who said because they chose to riot rather than protest means they no longer were associated with BLM?

Difference between a protest and a riot:

Generally speaking, a protest in the sense relevant here is “a usually organized public demonstration of disapproval” (of some law, policy, idea, or state of affairs), while a riot is “a disturbance of the peace created by an assemblage of usually three or more people acting with a common purpose and in a violent and tumultuous manner to the terror of the public” (Merriam Webster’s Dictionary of Law).

https://beyond.britannica.com/how-does-the-u-s-government-define-the-difference-between-a-protest-vs-riot#:~:text=Generally speaking, a protest in,and in a violent and


Articles on the difference between protest and riot:

Crucial difference between protests, riots

The history of protesting vs rioting: What’s the difference, do they send the message? | WTTV CBS4Indy
 
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A pair of lawyers fire bombed a police van......

The van was abandoned and they clearly do not warrant anywhere near a life sentence. But if your throwing a petrol bomb you are not protesting, but rioting.

The thing I do not think people get, is to the ATF... that isn't a Molotov cocktail... its Improvised Incendiary Device. Usage of IID/IED's is an act of terrorism. Such devices could even get into the laws of armed conflict and Martial Offenses/Military Tribunal depending on the severity of the situation. They are playing with the big boys now. Not going to be a slap on the wrist.
 
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Oops sorry I read that wrong,.. I meant it's a start. I didn't realize the lawyers were the ones facing prison for defending the violent acts. At least that's what I'm under the impression of.

The lawyers chose to riot and throw a molitoff cocktails into a police vehicle.

So, now the lawyers need lawyers since they were arrested.
 
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That's very troubling since the proposed punishment does not seem proportional to the crime. The degree of punishment also seems politically motivated and draconian.
 
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