Why did Adam need a companion

Nevada Smith · Sep 22, 2020

WebersHome said:
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So, Adam's need of a suitable companion suggests to you that God has need of a suitable companion?

Well; I think it's reasonable to be curious if there was ever a time in the eternal past when God was totally alone; just Him all by Himself existing in utter solitude like a hermit.

The origin of the cosmos is a big question on the minds of a number of scientists. My curiosity goes beyond theirs and wants to know the origin of God because it is very difficult for me to imagine someone as hospitable as Him living alone without at least one friend.

Sometimes I get an uneasy feeling that there's something more out there that we're not being told about, and this cosmos-- all of its forms of life, matter, and energy -- is a fishbowl; and ours is only one of many.
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John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

There was this nebulous period that God existed, before the beginning of the creation of the Word, before the creation of the universe. He would have been a single entity. No angels, no Son.

However the analogy of him living like a solitary hermit would be incorrect. Unlike the hermit, God exists outside of time. What would be a lifetime of solitude to a hermit would have no meaning to God.

I think for us to try and comprehend the origin of God would be like a dog trying to comprehend how its food got into a can. From the farm, to the processor, to the store, to the kitchen, and finally to the dog bowl is such a vast complex process far beyond a dog thinking. The dog knows the food exists. We know that God exists. I think that is the end of both our reasoning.

1213 · Sep 22, 2020

com7fy8 said:
I would consider God wanted Adam to have someone to share love with....

I think that is a good point, perhaps that was also the reason why God created people at the first place.

Joined2krist · Sep 22, 2020

Jamdoc said:
I really wish that someone had asked Jesus after His Matthew 22 answer to the Sadducees why there is no marriage after the resurrection, if it was not good for the man to be alone when Adam walked with God and would not have died, just like the angels, why is it good for him to be alone after the resurrection? Not "needing" to procreate anymore because we'll be immortal isn't explanation enough, because If Adam hadn't sinned, we'd be immortal and reproducing, because God told Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply before the fall.
Adam walked with God, had God basically all to Himself, and God still thought he needed companionship. The original plan was Adam and Eve would live forever in the garden and have children.
Was that plan just totally scrapped and the real plan for the future is just a bunch of eunuchs for eternity? There's going to be an uncountable multitude on the new earth according to Revelation 7 assuming all that multitude rejoicing in Heaven also gets to live on the new earth. None of us will have as much 1 on 1 time with God as Adam did, you'd think that'd create a greater need for human relationships, not less.. and if the more intimate human relationships are not present, and it's just a bunch of "friends" and "brothers and sisters" that's a more lonely eternity than Adam had in the garden with Eve.

But nobody thought to ask Jesus further question, because those legalists only thought of wives as sources of heirs for inheritance apparently, considering their big concern was passing around the same woman through a family of brothers focused on inheritance and not caring one bit about love. So Jesus answered their question based on what was important to them basically saying "You won't need children for inheritance purposes because you won't die".

and really I'd have to ask, if the ultimate destination was an intimate relationship between male humans and a male God, why make a female? It wasn't strictly necessary for procreation when it's God we're talking about. So we have male female intimacy, while male male intimacy is an abomination, and yet, in the perfected state male female intimacy is passed away and male male intimacy is the final goal?
Something doesn't add up.

Agreed, I've pondered on these same things. However, I'm comforted by the hope that we shall know these things one day, when we are actually experiencing it. Perhaps humanity can't fully comprehend God's future plan for our eternal existence.

Saying we need companionship simply for Farm work or procreation doesn't answer the question for we all know that God can create 6 billion people by speaking the word as He did in Adams case.

Ignatius the Kiwi · Sep 22, 2020

Since women are also created in the image of God we ought probably concede each has something of the character of God intrinsic to them that only each of them has. The union of a man and woman in like respect represents an aspect of God when children are created. Man and woman then take part in the process with God.

Hence why God said, it's not good for man to be alone. Adam by himself was insufficient just as Eve by herself would be insufficient.

Yarddog · Sep 22, 2020

Joined2krist said:
When he is created in God's image and likeness?

To share in creation.

grafted branch · Sep 22, 2020

Scott Husted said:
Symbolism abounds in the garden, (in relationship to our soul) just as it can be seen in the form of a dove descending at a Jordan.

I see Adam and Eve symbolize Christ and the church, his bride.

It says in Genesis 2:23-24 because the woman is taken out of the man that he shall leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife. Adam at this point has the propensity to cleave to his wife Eve. In Genesis 3:6 Eve eats the forbidden fruit and gave it to her husband. In the KJV there is a semicolon after this statement before Adam eats the fruit. This suggests that there was at least a pause before Adam eats the fruit. Because Adam wasn’t deceived (1 Timothy 2:14) he contemplated his choices of either not eating the fruit and remaining with God or choosing death and eating the fruit in order to cleave to his wife. Christ also chose death to be with his bride.

WebersHome · Sep 22, 2020

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Here's an interesting thought that I picked up years ago on another forum.

God (a.k.a. Jehovah) is possibly the supreme being in this cosmos, but maybe not everywhere. There might exist, unknown to us, a civilization of supreme beings, but the only one we need to be concerned with is the one who is supreme here, with us, in our cosmos.
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Jamdoc · Sep 22, 2020

Joined2krist said:
Agreed, I've pondered on these same things. However, I'm comforted by the hope that we shall know these things one day, when we are actually experiencing it. Perhaps humanity can't fully comprehend God's future plan for our eternal existence.

Saying we need companionship simply for Farm work or procreation doesn't answer the question for we all know that God can create 6 billion people by speaking the word as He did in Adams case.

I don't think it's procreation or help in doing tasks, I think it's having someone as an equal that is a companion. Adam was not God's equal, we are not God's equal. Jesus said He wasn't even God the Father's equal so I don't know how that pans out but, but within the Godhead there are 3 persons, so they keep each other company.

But in us, yeah you can claim body soul and spirit but soul and body are the same person, and the spirit is our superior, not our equal, so any 1 person is devoid of an equal companion, unless united by marriage to another person to complete them. Then it becomes man woman and God as a complete trinity.
There's a need for intimacy, companionship, and someone to share love with.
Even in Resurrected bodies you're not going to cuddle up to your creator like a spouse.

Jamdoc · Sep 22, 2020

WebersHome said:
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Here's an interesting thought that I picked up years ago on another forum.

God (a.k.a. Jehovah) is possibly the supreme being in this cosmos, but maybe not everywhere. There might exist, unknown to us, a civilization of supreme beings, but the only one we need to be concerned with is the one who is supreme here, with us, in our cosmos.
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That is the Mormon belief and it is heretical and blasphemous. I understand being curious as to the mysteries of God but God tells us in the bible

9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,

from Isaiah 46:9

Sammy-San · Sep 22, 2020

eleos1954 said:
1 Corinthians 7:7-9

I wish that all were as I myself am. But each has his own gift from God, one of one kind and one of another. To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is good for them to remain single as I am. But if they cannot exercise self-control, they should marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

Seems to be a matter of self-control rather than maturity.

Males and females reflect Gods image in different ways, in both appearance, genetics, and hormones and how their brain works.

If it was a matter of self control, that means sex is more than procreation (since Adam would have nobody to reproduce with if there was no other person), and being male or female is more than sperm and eggs (since there are infertile people, and I dont think their connection to people having sperm or eggs is why or the only reason that they are male or female)

Sammy-San · Sep 22, 2020

mkgal1 said:
What did God use to make Eve? She was already there, with Adam, as God took her from Adam's side (right? That's just going by what I recall).

To show that Gods image is masculine and not feminine, or to make marriage appropriate (because it would be the joining together of two people who were once one flesh).

WebersHome · Sep 22, 2020

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Jamdoc said:
Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,

That can be interpreted to mean:

"I am God, and there is none else for you; I am God, and there is none like me here."
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Sammy-San · Sep 22, 2020

pescador said:
The church is the bride of Christ!

Thats why the occult is spiritual adultery.

Tone · Sep 22, 2020

Sammy-San said:
and how their brain works.

I think I've heard this before, but, really? Apart from conditioning, we think differently?

Jamdoc · Sep 22, 2020

WebersHome said:
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That can be stretched to say:

"I am God, and there is none else for you; I am God, and there is none like me here."
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No, it really can't.

WebersHome · Sep 22, 2020

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FAQ: Have you been everywhere there is to go?

A: No.

FAQ: Have you seen everything there is to see?

A: No.

FAQ: Then how can you be so sure that there aren't other supreme beings out there somewhere in charge of their own universes like Jehovah is in charge of His own universe?

A: ?
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Scott Husted · Sep 22, 2020

grafted branch said:
I see Adam and Eve symbolize Christ and the church, his bride.

It says in Genesis 2:23-24 because the woman is taken out of the man that he shall leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife. Adam at this point has the propensity to cleave to his wife Eve. In Genesis 3:6 Eve eats the forbidden fruit and gave it to her husband. In the KJV there is a semicolon after this statement before Adam eats the fruit. This suggests that there was at least a pause before Adam eats the fruit. Because Adam wasn’t deceived (1 Timothy 2:14) he contemplated his choices of either not eating the fruit and remaining with God or choosing death and eating the fruit in order to cleave to his wife. Christ also chose death to be with his bride.

To throw it out there ... it is very important to recognize that Eve shines a different light on what the woman is in picture to us for what are soul is to us ...

The gospel is eternal and was preached from the beginning, now and again we get glimpses of it, until it becomes consciously a cohesive narrative that premates all things; a language we think in.

Jamdoc · Sep 22, 2020

WebersHome said:
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FAQ: Have you been everywhere there is to go?

A: No.

FAQ: Have you seen everything there is to see?

A: No.

FAQ: Then how can you be so sure that there aren't other supreme beings out there somewhere in charge of their own universes like Jehovah is in charge of His own universe?

A: ?
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Because Jehovah said there is NONE like Him. He didn't qualify a location and He also showed something in OP's question, we're created in God's image, but we're not like Him. We are not sufficient in ourselves.

AvilaSurfer · Sep 22, 2020

Somebody had to nag him to take out the trash.

Gregory Thompson · Sep 22, 2020

Joined2krist said:
Yes, body, soul and spirit should do

No Trinity, not modalism.

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