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I see that your biology degree and your knowledge of Virgin fields was worth more than the medical and scientific degrees and years of experience of Dr Fauci who himself at the beginning of the pandemic told people to NOT WEAR MASKS and even ridiculed people who wore masks.

And you are just regurgitating what is brand new knowledge when you say "If you wear a mask you tend to get less of the virus in your lungs if you catch it and that allows you to fight it off better." People didn't know that months ago. They were saying "wearing a mask does not protect you, it protects others."

Your bias is obvious. Trump is guilty of everything. including pandemic deaths. If you choose to believe that, there is nothing anyone can say.
. Again, Dr Fauci originally told people not to use masks because there was a shortage and they were trying to save them for medical personnel . Which considering that there actually was a shortage , was reasonable!

yep , I’m prejudiced against racists and Trump has been a racist since at least the 70s . Excuse me for abhorring someone who goes out of their way to hurt or cause damage to people like me and my family .
 
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We know. Nobody cares that the earth is frying, either.

And your expert source on that? Oh, yeah...

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. Again, Dr Fauci originally told people not to use masks because there was a shortage and they were trying to save them for medical personnel . Which considering that there actually was a shortage , was reasonable!
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Dr. Fauci, the supposed expert in infectious diseases, could have told people to use cloth masks or scarves or bandanas. Isn't that what the general public is using now anyway? Most people are not using N95, so there was no reasons to "lie" to people.

But saying that you were lying for a greater good is a better face saving option than admitting that in all your years of infectious disease experience, you didn't know that cloth masks, scarves and bandanas, which are readily available to the general population, could be used instead of the specialized masks designed for the medical personel.
 
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yep , I’m prejudiced against racists and Trump has been a racist since at least the 70s . Excuse me for abhorring someone who goes out of their way to hurt or cause damage to people like me and my family .
1) Calling Trump racist at every opportunity everyday of the year does not make him any more racist nor does it proves that he is any more racist than Biden who put in place legislations that primarily affected the African American population.

2) Calling Trump Racist at every opportunity every day of the year only serves to promote hatred, fear and division in the country, it is true fear-mongering. As a black person, I had to sit back and ask myself, what was it that this racist Trump did to negatively affect my black life on a personal level these past 4 years, and i couldn't find anything.
 
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1) Calling Trump racist at every opportunity everyday of the year does not make him any more racist nor does it proves that he is any more racist than Biden who put in place legislations that primarily affected the African American population.

2) Calling Trump Racist at every opportunity every day of the year only serves to promote hatred, fear and division in the country, it is true fear-mongering. As a black person, I had to sit back and ask myself, what was it that this racist Trump did to negatively affect my black life on a personal level these past 4 years, and i couldn't find anything.
well as an older Black woman I remember when NYC fined Trump for being racist. I have Muslim, Chinese, and Mexican neighbors . I grew up around Puerto Ricans. He encourages white supremacists. I find his racist behavior to be both disgusting and frightening as I keep thinking we’re next . Sure enough he gassed BLM protesters just to get a photo op falsely claiming that THEY were disruptive. He was the problem . He is the problem . Then there other things he does like his complete and utter science illiteracy and the constant pointless lying.
 
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Dr. Fauci, the supposed expert in infectious diseases, could have told people to use cloth masks or scarves or bandanas. Isn't that what the general public is using now anyway? Most people are not using N95, so there was no reasons to "lie" to people.

But saying that you were lying for a greater good is a better face saving option than admitting that in all your years of infectious disease experience, you didn't know that cloth masks, scarves and bandanas, which are readily available to the general population, could be used instead of the specialized masks designed for the medical personel.
at that time they weren’t readily available especially in NYC which had turned into a pandemic epicenter . I remember for some odd reason people hyperfocused on toilet paper . I didn’t because of my biology background . I focused on alcohol, hand sanitizer, bleach and disinfectant. Medical personnel were using the paper masks and they still do.
 
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well as an older Black woman I remember when NYC fined Trump for being racist. I have Muslim, Chinese, and Mexican neighbors . I grew up around Puerto Ricans. He encourages white supremacists. I find his racist behavior to be both disgusting and frightening as I keep thinking we’re next . Sure enough he gassed BLM protesters just to get a photo op falsely claiming that THEY were disruptive. He was the problem . He is the problem . Then there other things he does like his complete and utter science illiteracy and the constant pointless lying.

I saw those videos of "peaceful" BLM protesters you are speaking of. People who refused to disperse, people who were showing the fingers and other obscene gestures at the police instead of dispersing, taking a knee instead of moving on. Okay so they were not throwing molotov cocktails, but they were hardly the crowd of peaceful protesters we have seen through historical footage of MLK marches.

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As an older black woman, you have not even been able to give me 1 example of what Trump has done personally to you as a black person in the past 4 years, but you certainly are living in terror of what the dems demagogues have told you he is going to do if he gets 4 more years.
 
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at that time they weren’t readily available especially in NYC which had turned into a pandemic epicenter . I remember for some odd reason people hyperfocused on toilet paper . I didn’t because of my biology background . I focused on alcohol, hand sanitizer, bleach and disinfectant. Medical personnel were using the paper masks and they still do.
Scarves and bandanas were not available? They are among the accepted face masks and anyone could have started covering their faces from day one with makeshift material if Dr. Fauci had stated that covering the face would help slow or prevent the virus.

Again, not excuses for the "lie".
 
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well as an older Black woman I remember when NYC fined Trump for being racist.

Well, yeah, that was in 1973, right? when Trump management was found to discriminate against African Americans in rental.

THe irony is, wasn't it around the same time that Biden was leading anti busing movements that undermined African American's efforts at desegregation?

What I am trying to understand is why you give Biden a pass for his racist past but not DT?
 
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Biden has already demonstrated that he’s outgrown his previous stupid behavior and Trump continually doubles down on his. I don’t vote for racist science deniers . Either /or . I dislike Trump even more for his science denial as that is just as damaging as his racism
 
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What I am trying to understand is why you give Biden a pass for his racist past but not DT?

There is a chemical compound in the Democrat Kool-Aid. It functions to alter the brain so that all Democrats always appear to be wonderful and right, and Trump will always be wrong because he's Trump.

Ever see the movie "The Manchurian Candidate"? Remember how Laurence Harvey would react to seeing the Queen of Diamonds after he was brainwashed by the Chinese? That's how Liberals react when they see, hear, or read anything about Donald Trump.

(shrug) They can't help it. They've just drank too much of the Kool-Aid over the decades, and they are unable to see that guys like Joe Biden are not like John Kennedy, or Harry Truman, or Franklin Roosevelt.
 
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I'm very familiar with the story. Are you trying to say you are the Noah of the modern times?

I think it's more along the lines of "God is giving us a warning." We didn't listen in Noah's time either.
 
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Galileo was under house arrest, and Copernicus died the year his work was published. He was posthumously condemned.
So neither of them went to jail.

Coepernicus was reluctant to publish his findings but received great encouragement and support from scientific clergy. When you actually look at the issue you'll find that it was not so much religion vs science as a stubborn pope vs a stubborn priest. Both were vainglorious. Galileo's findings were not rejected at first because of any religious matter but because his math was just wrong. His findings presented the planets moving in circular orbits when ten years prior Kepler had proven they moved in eliptical orbits.
 
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I live in NYC. I don’t believe that story . Hospitals were seriously overrun . And if they had to go to rehab homes that’s SOP for patients who have chronic problems but the emergency care system of a hospital isnt appropriate . I don’t think doctors realized how contagious this is at the time .

I know anti maskers think that this isn’t a problem . And they still want to blame blue state governors for trying to prevent hospitals from being too full to function . We finally had to build temporary hospital/hospices in Central Park and other public parks . That’s how bad it got !
So.... when you disbelieve facts then you're just willfully blind.

It's what they did. You can go and find the state documents. Not a matter of opinion.
 
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So show them! I live here , they sent people home. They sent my son home when he caught it. A lot of seniors here live in assisted living places . They have their own small apartments and they share a cafeteria so they don’t have to cook . There are a lot of them in my neighborhood and they’re big buildings. I can see why a pandemic would spread in that situation.
 
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Biden has already demonstrated that he’s outgrown his previous stupid behavior and Trump continually doubles down on his....
I perfectly understand why you would think like that. Trump's personality and style do not do him any favor in the popularity department when it comes to minorities.

For decades now, minorities have been used to democrats pussyfooting around them for fear of offending them. God forbid we should talk about black on black crime. Taboo!!!! And anyone bringing it up is a certified racist!!!

Trump refuses to pander, which is something minorities have been used to from the democrats.

Example of shameless racial pandering, Biden sitting down for an "interview" with WAP singer Cardi B, claiming "my daugther loves you Cardi!". It made me roll my eyes, considering the garbage that is that WAP video, but hey, anything for a vote, and apparently, our cultural standards in the black community have fallen so low, that kind of pandering seems to work.
 
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Trump is scientifically illiterate and he decides important and dangerous issues on his whims and his need to make money for himself . He doesn’t care about America. If he did he wouldn’t start race wars or pander to white supremacy. His science denial was a little bit of a bigger issue for me than his racism and misogyny even though I’m Black and a woman because he could harm everyone not just Americans and not just minorities and women. That said, I’ve never thought of him as other than a selfish jerk
 
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