Are "Pharmaceuticals" a World-wide End-time Deception?

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Rev 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy "sorceries" were all nations deceived.


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From G5332; medication (“pharmacy”), that is, (by extension) magic (literal or figurative): - sorcery, witchcraft.
Total KJV occurrences: 3


Pastor Chuck Baldwin on Revelation chapter 18:


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Rev 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy "sorceries" were all nations deceived.


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φαρμακεία
pharmakeia
far-mak-i'-ah
From G5332; medication (“pharmacy”), that is, (by extension) magic (literal or figurative): - sorcery, witchcraft.
Total KJV occurrences: 3


Pastor Chuck Baldwin on Revelation chapter 18:



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I didn't watch the hour long video....but that's a possibility.
 
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No...

First, modern pharmaceuticals doesn't have any relationship to the practice of sorcery as it once did..

Luke was a beloved disciple of Jesus, himself a physician, a likely candidate to have been a student of the teachings of Hippocrates, known to us today as the father of modern medicine.

Prior to his time, nearly all medicine was theurgy.. ritualistic in nature and administered by temple sorcerers / physician- priests. Theurgy persisted even into Biblical times, and was a thing abhorrent to God.

Back then a person taken ill could go to their favorite temple of choice and undergo various rituals and be given drug/concoctions of little to no benefit outside of placebo effects... worthless concoctions that if they were lucky got them high, but did nothing to heal.

Modern medicine has no relationship to the sorcery of ancient days, and no one is seeking out a sorcerer for placebos intended to make you think it has power from gods without power. (Except maybe the heroin addict etc...)

Today, medicine and pharmaceuticals are a totally different category...

I had surgery recently which necessitated the use of several pharmaceuticals, the least of which was a powerful antibiotic... I went to no temple nor saw any sorcerer to cure what ails me, I engaged in prayer (first) and sought the aid of modern medicine - a gift I believe is from God, as I believe it is God who created us with the ability to come by such knowledge in the first place, and am grateful to be living in such a time in human history where such things are no longer worthless endeavors devoid of knowledge.

You can't simply say well temple sorcerers used to give euphoria enducing drugs at pagan temples to the ill and God abhorred His people paying attendance to pagan sorcerers in pagan temples and taking their drugs so oops, 2,000 years later I shouldn't take a naproxen or use antibiotics when I have an infection... the two don't even compute as your not comparing apple's to apples... your comparing apples to steak...

If you want to know what to avoid, then know what is being talked about, and why, in the first place.
 
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Rev 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy "sorceries" were all nations deceived.

This has nothing to do with "pharmacy".

Do you know what the light of the candle represents?

Do you know who are the bridgegroom? His Bride?

Who are the merchants? What are their sorceries that deceived the heathens (nations)?

Revelation 20:7-9 KJV
[7] And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
[8] And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
[9] And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

God is talking about the judgment of His Unfaithful Congregations all over the Earth where His people are His merchants of the Gospel. Both the true merchants and false merchants. But because of their unfaithfulness and apostasy, God has allowed Satan to come in to deceive the false merchants as a judgment. Where? Right here in the church - the camp of the saints and the beloved city. Not physical Israel or Jews.

Now what are the sorceries of the false merchants? This has nothing to do with pharmacy per context.
 
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Now what are the sorceries of the false merchants? This has nothing to do with pharmacy per context.

Are you an adherent to the 5th Kingdom doctrine?

*Would the sorceries be false gospels?
 
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Rev 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy "sorceries" were all nations deceived.


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φαρμακεία
pharmakeia
far-mak-i'-ah
From G5332; medication (“pharmacy”), that is, (by extension) magic (literal or figurative): - sorcery, witchcraft.
Total KJV occurrences: 3


Pastor Chuck Baldwin on Revelation chapter 18:


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Almost certainly.
You only have to watch some of the Bill Gates videos to see the plans of the globalists and Big Pharma.
By their own words they intend-
To massively reduce the world's population.
To have a mandatory global vaccination programme which will net them $Trillions
To inject everyone with an RFID chip so everyone's medical status can be tracked.
To transfer your bank details to that same chip for buying and selling instead of credit and debit cards.
To get rid of cash completely.
To use their vaccine programme to massively reduce the world population.
To create crisis after crisis to drive the demand for global government.

So clearly in the not too distant future, their plan is to remove cash from circulation and go to full electronic transactions.
In line with that, the hysteria deliberately created by the pandemic enables them to foist an experimental vaccine on the populations. To track that, it comes with a chip, which they have shown being inserted in the hand. That same Bill Gates video then shows a transaction being made by waving the hand over a standard card reader.

Revelation talks about the Mark of the Beast being forced on all men, but it would take years to insert RFID chips in the billions of earth population. That might be true except for the fact the banks are already pushing the cashless society like crazy, and geeks are pushing the idea of an RFID chip in the hand like crazy also.
At the rate such things are advancing, we will be voluntarily prepared for the Mark of the Beast long before it is forced on us at gunpoint!

To sidestep a little, how often when logging into your email/Google/banking/Paypal/Amazon or Ebay account, has a drop down menu suddenly appeared. You can't proceed to your account till you have read the new terms and conditions and clicked "Accept".

So ten or twenty years ahead of us now, you thought that getting that RFID chip in your hand would be cool. Then after decades of easy peasy buying, suddenly you get an email from your bank. Apparently your account is closed till further notice, and with cash long gone, there's no buying and no selling till you address the issues on the new terms and conditions.
You know there's been massive upheavals around the world, with wars and revolutions, new leaders here and there, but you've managed to steer clear of trouble till now, but this email, you didn't see that coming at all.

Apparently, your account is closed till you swear your allegiance to that new world dictator who suddenly appeared out of nowhere.
 
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No...

First, modern pharmaceuticals doesn't have any relationship to the practice of sorcery as it once did..

Many of the doctor's mistakes are found in the graveyard.

I go to church with a man whose kidneys were destroyed by the chemical the doctor gave him before he had an MRI.
Dialysis now keeps him alive.


Rockefeller Medicine:


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No...

First, modern pharmaceuticals doesn't have any relationship to the practice of sorcery as it once did..

Luke was a beloved disciple of Jesus, himself a physician, a likely candidate to have been a student of the teachings of Hippocrates, known to us today as the father of modern medicine.

Prior to his time, nearly all medicine was theurgy.. ritualistic in nature and administered by temple sorcerers / physician- priests. Theurgy persisted even into Biblical times, and was a thing abhorrent to God.

Back then a person taken ill could go to their favorite temple of choice and undergo various rituals and be given drug/concoctions of little to no benefit outside of placebo effects... worthless concoctions that if they were lucky got them high, but did nothing to heal.

Modern medicine has no relationship to the sorcery of ancient days, and no one is seeking out a sorcerer for placebos intended to make you think it has power from gods without power. (Except maybe the heroin addict etc...)

Today, medicine and pharmaceuticals are a totally different category...

I had surgery recently which necessitated the use of several pharmaceuticals, the least of which was a powerful antibiotic... I went to no temple nor saw any sorcerer to cure what ails me, I engaged in prayer (first) and sought the aid of modern medicine - a gift I believe is from God, as I believe it is God who created us with the ability to come by such knowledge in the first place, and am grateful to be living in such a time in human history where such things are no longer worthless endeavors devoid of knowledge.

You can't simply say well temple sorcerers used to give euphoria enducing drugs at pagan temples to the ill and God abhorred His people paying attendance to pagan sorcerers in pagan temples and taking their drugs so oops, 2,000 years later I shouldn't take a naproxen or use antibiotics when I have an infection... the two don't even compute as your not comparing apple's to apples... your comparing apples to steak...

If you want to know what to avoid, then know what is being talked about, and why, in the first place.
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Yes I have studied this...it is in the Biblical Greek. I could explain more but you covered it pretty well
 
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Are you an adherent to the 5th Kingdom doctrine?

Don't know what you are talking about.

*Would the sorceries be false gospels?

Revelation 18:23-34 is imagery illustrating that the New Testament Congregation of Israel, the church is no longer God's Covenant Church and under judgment. She has BECOME a harlot. She is now a deceiving church. Think about it, according to CONTEXT, not medical doctor or store, the light of the Gospel is no longer found in her as the Bridegroom (Christ) has abandoned her. She no longer has the Truth, so her sorceries (false doctrines, false gospels, prosperity, healing ministries, entertainments, etc.) are what deceive those who have not yet sealed by God, Revelation 9:3-6. Yes, their lying signs and wonders are "false spell of the Gospel." The Bride (Elect) is no longer found in her because she has already left her as God commanded in Revelation 18:4.

This has nothing to do with Pharmacy, the medical aspect of developing the physical mark of the beast. Taking the mark (ownership of Satan) upon their right-hand signifies they are doing Satan's will, or upon their forehead signify they have the same mind because they are deceived by his lies through his false prophets and Christs! Some members here are confused thinking Revelation 18 is about the "world", "drugs", "COVID-19", "food", etc. instead of "God's unfaithful congregation." No wondering their doctrines/interpretations are wrong and literal-based.
 
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Don't know what you are talking about.



Revelation 18:23-34 is imagery illustrating that the New Testament Congregation of Israel, the church is no longer God's Covenant Church and under judgment. She has BECOME a harlot. She is now a deceiving the church. Think about it, the light of the Gospel is no longer found in her for the Bridegroom (Christ) has abandoned her. She no longer has the Truth, so her sorceries (false doctrines, false gospels, prosperity, healing ministries, entertainments, etc.) are what deceive those who have not yet sealed by God, Revelation 9:3-6. Yes, their lying signs and wonders are "false spell of the Gospel." The Bride (Elect) is no longer found in her because she has already left her as God commanded in Revelation 18:4.

This has nothing to do with Pharmacy, the medical aspect of developing the physical mark of the beast, etc. as some members here thought. They are confused because they believe Revelation 18 has to do with the world, instead of God's unfaithful congregation. Sad.
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Yes it !makes sense that this is talking Bout the future When the great falling away happens
 
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Many of the doctor's mistakes are found in the graveyard.

I go to church with a man whose kidneys were destroyed by the chemical the doctor gave him before he had an MRI.
Dialysis now keeps him alive.


Rockefeller Medicine:


.

Just because not all medicine works the way it's intended doesnt mean it's the same as going to a pagan temple seeking treatment that has no hope of working in real life.

I could very well have died having surgery, but medical knowledge is such today that I didn't. The outcome may have been different even 50 years ago, but what we've learned in the last 50 years provided me with a far better outcome than it could have been.

Regardless, its a far cry from running to the nearest pagan temple for drugs in the hopes the pagan gods might heal me...

If we are Christian we pray in faith, and do what good sense tells us... God doesn't promise us life eternal in this body on this earth, it is to men to die once, but God doesn't demand we act stupidly based on thousands year old false medicine.

If you can't see that, I can't help you.
 
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Almost certainly.
You only have to watch some of the Bill Gates videos to see the plans of the globalists and Big Pharma.
By their own words they intend-
To massively reduce the world's population.
To have a mandatory global vaccination programme which will net them $Trillions
To inject everyone with an RFID chip so everyone's medical status can be tracked.
To transfer your bank details to that same chip for buying and selling instead of credit and debit cards.
To get rid of cash completely.
To use their vaccine programme to massively reduce the world population.
To create crisis after crisis to drive the demand for global government.

So clearly in the not too distant future, their plan is to remove cash from circulation and go to full electronic transactions.
In line with that, the hysteria deliberately created by the pandemic enables them to foist an experimental vaccine on the populations. To track that, it comes with a chip, which they have shown being inserted in the hand. That same Bill Gates video then shows a transaction being made by waving the hand over a standard card reader.

Revelation talks about the Mark of the Beast being forced on all men, but it would take years to insert RFID chips in the billions of earth population. That might be true except for the fact the banks are already pushing the cashless society like crazy, and geeks are pushing the idea of an RFID chip in the hand like crazy also.
At the rate such things are advancing, we will be voluntarily prepared for the Mark of the Beast long before it is forced on us at gunpoint!

To sidestep a little, how often when logging into your email/Google/banking/Paypal/Amazon or Ebay account, has a drop down menu suddenly appeared. You can't proceed to your account till you have read the new terms and conditions and clicked "Accept".

So ten or twenty years ahead of us now, you thought that getting that RFID chip in your hand would be cool. Then after decades of easy peasy buying, suddenly you get an email from your bank. Apparently your account is closed till further notice, and with cash long gone, there's no buying and no selling till you address the issues on the new terms and conditions.
You know there's been massive upheavals around the world, with wars and revolutions, new leaders here and there, but you've managed to steer clear of trouble till now, but this email, you didn't see that coming at all.

Apparently, your account is closed till you swear your allegiance to that new world dictator who suddenly appeared out of nowhere.
Money is sorcery?
 
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Everyone thinking bill gates is gonna inject a microchip when Elon musk straight up has said he’s gonna do it. Come on, people. It’s Elon who is the real threat when it comes to micro chipping. Microsoft Windows can’t even recognize a webcam let alone a microchip in flesh.
All joking aside, Luke was a physician.
Also, of course doctors make mistakes and some people die. Dude, doctors are human and any medical advances (procedures or medication) come with an inherent risk.
 
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Modern medicine has no relationship to the sorcery of ancient days, and no one is seeking out a sorcerer for placebos intended to make you think it has power from gods without power. (Except maybe the heroin addict etc...)

Are you certain on this? Because today we do have drugs that can affect the mind, whether you call it mind control or behavior control, we do have such drugs capable of this.

Speaking of this, have you heard of Morality Pills? Have drugs to make people more compliant and cooperative?
 
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If you can't see that, I can't help you.


Rev 18:23 The light of a lamp shall not shine in you anymore, and the voice of bridegroom and bride shall not be heard in you anymore. For your merchants were the great men of the earth, for by your sorcery all the nations were deceived.


If you can't see how COVID-19 is being used as an instrument of those promoting a one world government, then I can't help you.

The governor of North Carolina has told pharmacists not to fill doctor's prescriptions for some medications used to treat COVID-19.


Medical Martial Law:


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At the end of the day 'll this bill gates stuff is conspiracy and speculation. Nobody knows...and when times prophecies are in the Word not from modern day prophets. Am not a cessationist but there a very few true end time prophets these days. Let us stick to the bible
 
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Are you certain on this? Because today we do have drugs that can affect the mind, whether you call it mind control or behavior control, we do have such drugs capable of this.

Speaking of this, have you heard of Morality Pills? Have drugs to make people more compliant and cooperative?

We've had these for a while and we've had people encouraging society to put them in the water supply.


"He popularized catchphrases that promoted his philosophy, such as "turn on, tune in, drop out", "set and setting", and "think for yourself and question authority". He also wrote and spoke frequently about transhumanist concepts of space migration, intelligence increase, and life extension (SMI²LE).[12] "
Timothy Leary - Wikipedia
 
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