Why do people hate easy believism?

Status
Not open for further replies.

Rachel20

Well-Known Member
May 30, 2020
1,954
1,443
STX
✟58,109.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
I can be trusted but only those of God trust me. It is not OK to think evil of me, it shows only you are not of God, and you add new sins, to make your salvation more hard.

I wasn't thinking evil of you, only the best for you! Maybe some day you'll understand.
 
Upvote 0

Soyeong

Well-Known Member
Mar 10, 2015
12,416
4,600
Hudson
✟281,745.00
Country
United States
Faith
Messianic
Marital Status
Single
The only reason why someone would dislike the fact that salvation is easy is because they are prideful. Think about this. Whenever you do something that isn't easy, don't you become prideful? It was not easy for me to do my first job interview. But after I was done I was proud about the fact that I managed to do it anyway. I was prideful because I did something that was not easy. But that's not salvation. Salvation is the easiest thing in the world. You don't get saved by accomplishing anything (let alone something that isn't easy), you get saved by receiving a free gift that is freely given to everyone. The only way to get saved is by believing in Jesus, not by believing in yourself. That's why it's impossible for prideful people to get saved.

Whenever someone dislikes the term "easy believism", that is a sign that you are dealing with a prideful person. The more prideful you are, the more you hate easy believism. The prideful person delights in the fact that they earned their salvation by their own efforts, and hates the idea that salvation could be easy. The prideful person gives glory to himself rather than giving glory to God.

But the truly humble person loves it. He loves the fact that salvation is so easy and so simple. They don't mind the fact that they can't take any glory out of their own salvation, but that God takes all the glory.

The problem with easy believism is that it tries to separate what we believe from our actions when the Bible never separates them, but rather what we believe is expressed through our actions, which is why James 2:17-18 says that faith without works is dead and that he would show his faith by his works. Every example in the Bible of someone living by faith is also an example of someone taking actions that are an expression of that faith, such as with those listed in Hebrews 11. In Revelation 14:12, those who kept faith in Jesus as the same as those who kept God's commandments. In John 6:40, Jesus said that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him will have eternal life, and in Matthew 19:17, he said that if we want to enter into eternal life, then obey the commandments, so obedience to the commandments is what it looks like to believe in Jesus, yet you to believe in him instead of obeying the commandments and act like there is something negative about obedience. Over and over the Bible calls for us to repent and obey, so there is nothing inherently prideful about this, and in fact, humbly submitting to God's will through faith is the opposite of being prideful.

In Psalms 119:29, David wanted God to be gracious to him by teaching him to obey His law and in Titus 2:11-14, our salvation is described as being trained by grace to do what is godly, righteous, and good, and to renounce doing what is ungodly, which is what God's law was given to instruct how to do, so God graciously teaching us to obey His law is itself part of his free gift of salvation and participating in that training does nothing to earn it, but rather that is what it looks like to receive it. Our salvation is from sin and sin is the transgression of God's law, so being trained by grace to live in obedience to God's law through faith is what Jesus saving us from living in transgression of God's law looks like and there is no sense in someone wanting salvation from living in transgression of God's law without involving the free gift of being trained by grace to live in obedience to it.
 
Upvote 0

Bible Highlighter

Law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul.
Supporter
Jul 22, 2014
41,433
7,859
...
✟1,187,903.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
But here's what you missed. It's impossible to take pride from the fact that you just received a free gift. Boasting goes together with pride. But how would you boast by receiving a free gift? It would make no sense at all.

Let's imagine that someone who is truly saved tried to be prideful and boast about their salvation. This is what it would sound like, "Hey everyone, look how great I am because I didn't do anything! I am the greatest person ever because God did everything for me and I was like a little baby who didn't do anything!"

It would sound like a joke. There's no reason to boast with something that you didn't even do.

I believe in receiving a gift, too. But like all gifts in life, there are works of responsibility in taking care of those gifts. If you received a car as a free gift, you cannot run red lights, and hit pedestrians and ignore having a flat tire. If you received a house as a free gift, you cannot ignore general maintance on your home without it having major problems later down the road. If you received a wife from the Lord by praying, and you regard her as a gift from God, that does not mean you can be unfaithful with your wife and or treat her in a bad way. The same is true with God.

What is prideful is doing evil or sin in the name of God. I mean, I should not need a Bible to tell a person this basic moral truth because it is obvious. Good guys do good, and bad guys do evil. The Bible teaches this, as well. I mean, have you not cheered for the good guys in a movie before? Or do you cheer for that which is evil and wrong? Anyways, Paul says essentially in 1 Timothy 6:3-4 that if any man does not agree with the words of Jesus Christ and the doctrine according to godliness, he is proud and he knows nothing. James 4:6 says that God resists the proud and gives grace to the humble.

Titus 2:10-11 says God's grace teaches us to deny ungodliness and that we should live godly and righteously in this present world. Does your version of grace teach that? Easy Believism does not appear to teach that in my experience. So I think you have things backwards.

Oh, and by the way. I am also for the King James Bible being the pure Word of God. I just do not agree with your view of salvation and Sanctification. In fact, the KJV is the best Bible in order to defend these two truths.
 
Upvote 0

Bible Highlighter

Law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul.
Supporter
Jul 22, 2014
41,433
7,859
...
✟1,187,903.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
I know that I'm just as much of a sinner as anyone else. I'm not saying I'm any better than anyone else. I'm just saying that I wasn't trying to work for salvation or earn it by myself, just received it as a free gift.

The only reason I can imagine why someone would not want to have a free gift is the mindset that says, "I'm such a good and hard-working person that I'm going to earn that gift by myself. You're not just going to give it to me freely." That would be a prideful mindset. So that's why I think pride is the reason why someone would not want a free gift or dislike the idea of getting a free gift.

If salvation is easy and it's totally free, wouldn't that just be the greatest news ever? Why would you dislike that?

Work out your salvation with fear and trembling (Philippians 2:12).
 
Upvote 0

Bible Highlighter

Law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul.
Supporter
Jul 22, 2014
41,433
7,859
...
✟1,187,903.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
The only reason why someone would dislike the fact that salvation is easy is because they are prideful. Think about this. Whenever you do something that isn't easy, don't you become prideful? It was not easy for me to do my first job interview. But after I was done I was proud about the fact that I managed to do it anyway. I was prideful because I did something that was not easy. But that's not salvation. Salvation is the easiest thing in the world. You don't get saved by accomplishing anything (let alone something that isn't easy), you get saved by receiving a free gift that is freely given to everyone. The only way to get saved is by believing in Jesus, not by believing in yourself. That's why it's impossible for prideful people to get saved.

Whenever someone dislikes the term "easy believism", that is a sign that you are dealing with a prideful person. The more prideful you are, the more you hate easy believism. The prideful person delights in the fact that they earned their salvation by their own efforts, and hates the idea that salvation could be easy. The prideful person gives glory to himself rather than giving glory to God.

But the truly humble person loves it. He loves the fact that salvation is so easy and so simple. They don't mind the fact that they can't take any glory out of their own salvation, but that God takes all the glory.

Ever heard of the phrase, nothing good in life comes easy? Usually there is a price to pay. Jesus died on the cross in order for Him to forgive of us of our sins. But this does not mean we just have to do nothing for the Lord but believe on Him for salvation. We have to fight the good fight of faith. Why? Well, a believer can receive God's grace in vain.

 
Upvote 0

Bible Highlighter

Law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul.
Supporter
Jul 22, 2014
41,433
7,859
...
✟1,187,903.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Read the next verse.

“Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” (John 14:23).
 
Upvote 0

Bible Highlighter

Law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul.
Supporter
Jul 22, 2014
41,433
7,859
...
✟1,187,903.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Read the next verse.

Jesus desired for those in Jerusalem to be gathered together to Him like a hen gathers its chicks underneath its wings. But the Jerusalem people would not let or allow the Lord to do so. God's will was being thwarted here.

“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones God’s messengers! How often I have wanted to gather your children together as a hen protects her chicks beneath her wings, but you wouldn’t let me” (Matthew 23:37) (NLT).
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

Bible Highlighter

Law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul.
Supporter
Jul 22, 2014
41,433
7,859
...
✟1,187,903.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Easy Believism cheapens God's grace. For what does one make of Jude 1:4?

“For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.” (Jude 1:4) (NIV).
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

Bible Highlighter

Law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul.
Supporter
Jul 22, 2014
41,433
7,859
...
✟1,187,903.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
@BibleBeliever1611

Easy Believism simply does not exist if you read your Bible closely enough. Yes, we are saved by God's grace, but we are also saved by Sanctification after we are saved by His grace. If you disagree with those verses on Sanctification for salvation, then you need to explain them in how they work from your viewpoint or belief. For the Bible does clearly teach that...


After we are saved by God's grace,
God’s works (done through us) are also required as a part of the Salvation Process:



(Here are a List of Verses):


#1. “Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only." (James 2:24).

#2. "Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.” (James 2:17-18).

#3. "They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate." (Titus 1:16).

#4. "If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; He is proud, knowing nothing," (1 Timothy 6:3-4).

Supplemental verse:

"...God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble." (James 4:6).​

#5. "And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him." (Hebrews 5:9).

#6. "Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord" (Hebrews 12:14).

#7. “...God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth” (2 Thessalonians 2:13).

Supplemental verses:

(a) “That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” (2 Thessalonians 2:12).

(b) “...and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace, Comfort your hearts, and establish you in every good word and work.” (2 Thessalonians 2:16-17).​

#8. “There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.” (Romans 8:1).

Supplemental verse:

“For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.” (Romans 8:13).​

#9. "If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema [accursed] Maranatha."(1 Corinthians 16:22).

Supplemental verses:

(a) "If ye love me, keep my commandments." (John 14:15).

(b) “If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.” (John 15:10).​

#10. ”And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.” (Luke 10:25-28).

#11. “...if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.” (Matthew 19:17-19).

#12. "And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me." (Matthew 10:38). ”If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? (Matthew 16:24-26).

#13. "...No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God." (Luke 9:62) (cf. Luke 8:11-15, 1 Corinthians 4:15).

#14. "But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: For there is no respect of persons with God." (Romans 2:8-11).

Supplemental verses:

(a) "Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls." (James 1:21).

(b) “Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.” (James 1:12).

(c) "For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved." (John 3:20).​

#15. “And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.” (John 5:29).

#16. ”And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.” (Revelation 22:12-15).

#17. “For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.” (Romans 11:21-22).

#18. “Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.” (Philippians 2:12-13).

#19. ”Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.” (Matthew 25:34-40).
“Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.” (Matthew 25:41-46).

#20. ”His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.” (Matthew 25:21).
”And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” (Matthew 25:30).

#21. “In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.” (1 John 3:10).

#22. “He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God” (John 8:47).

#23. “But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.” (1 John 1:7) (cf. 1 John 2:9-11).

#24. “For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:20).

#25. “Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.” (Matthew 7:24-27).

#26. “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.” (Matthew 7:21).

Supplementary verse:

“For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication” (1 Thessalonians 4:3).​

#27. “And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet [Jesus], shall be destroyed from among the people.” (Acts of the Apostles 3:23).

#28. “I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.’ (John 15:5-6).

Supplementary verses:

(a) “Bring forth therefore fruits befitting for repentance” (Matthew 3:8).

(b) “And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.” (Matthew 3:10).​

#29. “And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.” (1 Peter 4:18-19).

#30. “For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.” (Galatians 6:8-9).
 
Upvote 0

Bible Highlighter

Law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul.
Supporter
Jul 22, 2014
41,433
7,859
...
✟1,187,903.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
@BibleBeliever1611

Q: Why do people hate easy believism?

A: Because it is not found in the Bible, and it is immoral. It leads people to justify sin and evil in the name of God, and the Bible condemns grievous and mortal sin with punishment in the afterlife.
 
Upvote 0

Albion

Facilitator
Dec 8, 2004
111,138
33,258
✟583,842.00
Country
United States
Faith
Anglican
Marital Status
Married
@BibleBeliever1611

Q: Why do people hate easy believism?

A: Because it is not found in the Bible, and it is immoral. It leads people to justify sin and evil in the name of God, and the Bible condemns grievous and mortal sin with punishment in the afterlife.
Here's the problem with it, though. The accusation, or even the perception, that is described by that term (Easy Believism) is not fundamentally concerned with it not being found in the Bible.

No, when people charge "Easy Believism" they aren't saying it's a concept that's unScriptural; rather, it's a contrivance meant to satirize people who hold that it is through Faith in Christ and his sacrifice that we mortals may be saved.
 
Upvote 0

Pavel Mosko

Arch-Dude of the Apostolic
Supporter
Oct 4, 2016
7,236
7,312
56
Boyertown, PA.
✟768,575.00
Country
United States
Faith
Oriental Orthodox
Marital Status
Single
The only reason why someone would dislike the fact that salvation is easy is because they are prideful.

Nope.

I've only heard this phrase a few times, but I think it is apt.

1) The first time was in reference to Hell and how many believers don't have a strong urgency toward evangelism, but if they were really conscious of people being eternally tortured they etc. they would make more of an effort. But their day to day life there was almost a repression/compartmentalization of this fact. Kind of like Hell exists yeah but it's no big deal... hence the use of the phrase to show that people are being too casual.


2) Besides this you get into the whole Lordship salvation issue stuff. Is Jesus really Lord of your life? There are some things that can sound easy, but not really be easy Existentially speaking.


3) And then there is the whole issue of things like Santification, theosis and the alike. Some Protestants don't put much stock in this stuff. I believe that is important. Part of knowing Christ is being transformed by Him into His Image etc. I personally find myself doubting some people's Salvation when you have some Christians who are very unmerciful, and uncaring of other people. That is one of those situations where I believe people could be setting themselves up for a "I never knew you" response on Judgement day.


4) There can be some quasi-Gnostic attitudes around certain things like "The Sinner's Prayer" etc. That might be the start of some people's spiritual life, but I would be loath to reduce the life of Faith down to a formula, even though that seems to be what many folks do.


5) Finally I think many folks are tempted to think of Christianity as a series of doctrines to know for Salvation... and well it is more than that.
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

BibleBeliever1611

Active Member
May 3, 2020
391
182
28
Vantaa
✟80,648.00
Country
Finland
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Ever heard of the phrase, nothing good in life comes easy?

Sure. But God was the one who paid the penalty for our sin, not us. It sounds unfair but that's just the truth.

Easy Believism cheapens God's grace.

No, it's salvation by works which cheapens God's grace. The Bible says that our own righteousness is like a filthy rag. So if you can buy salvation by giving God a filthy rag, then that's pretty cheap. It's literally cheaper than the cheapest item you could find from a grocery store. Easy believism doesn't cheapen God's grace; it says it's free. If something is free it's not cheap.

To put it simply:
- Easy believism says: salvation is an expensive gift
- Denial of easy believism says: salvation is a cheap item for sale
 
Upvote 0

Oompa Loompa

Against both police brutality and cop killing.
Jun 4, 2020
5,460
2,418
40
Louisiana
✟143,012.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
The only reason why someone would dislike the fact that salvation is easy is because they are prideful. Think about this. Whenever you do something that isn't easy, don't you become prideful? It was not easy for me to do my first job interview. But after I was done I was proud about the fact that I managed to do it anyway. I was prideful because I did something that was not easy. But that's not salvation. Salvation is the easiest thing in the world. You don't get saved by accomplishing anything (let alone something that isn't easy), you get saved by receiving a free gift that is freely given to everyone. The only way to get saved is by believing in Jesus, not by believing in yourself. That's why it's impossible for prideful people to get saved.

Whenever someone dislikes the term "easy believism", that is a sign that you are dealing with a prideful person. The more prideful you are, the more you hate easy believism. The prideful person delights in the fact that they earned their salvation by their own efforts, and hates the idea that salvation could be easy. The prideful person gives glory to himself rather than giving glory to God.

But the truly humble person loves it. He loves the fact that salvation is so easy and so simple. They don't mind the fact that they can't take any glory out of their own salvation, but that God takes all the glory.
I don't think you understand the implications of "Easy Believism". Do you believe that someone can be saved by merely reciting a prayer. Do you believe that after saying a half hearted prayer you could spend the rest of your life living in deliberate sin and debauchery without eternal consequence?
 
Upvote 0

Oompa Loompa

Against both police brutality and cop killing.
Jun 4, 2020
5,460
2,418
40
Louisiana
✟143,012.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
But here's what you missed. It's impossible to take pride from the fact that you just received a free gift. Boasting goes together with pride. But how would you boast by receiving a free gift? It would make no sense at all.

Let's imagine that someone who is truly saved tried to be prideful and boast about their salvation. This is what it would sound like, "Hey everyone, look how great I am because I didn't do anything! I am the greatest person ever because God did everything for me and I was like a little baby who didn't do anything!"

It would sound like a joke. There's no reason to boast with something that you didn't even do.
The gift of salvation is given freely. But it costs us everything. It is called "dying to self" and it is something Jesus commanded when he said to "take up your cross".
 
  • Agree
Reactions: JulieB67
Upvote 0

Albion

Facilitator
Dec 8, 2004
111,138
33,258
✟583,842.00
Country
United States
Faith
Anglican
Marital Status
Married
Do you believe that someone can be saved by merely reciting a prayer. Do you believe that after saying a half hearted prayer you could spend the rest of your life living in deliberate sin and debauchery without eternal consequence?
Is there someone who actually teaches any of this?
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

BibleBeliever1611

Active Member
May 3, 2020
391
182
28
Vantaa
✟80,648.00
Country
Finland
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Do you believe that someone can be saved by merely reciting a prayer.

Of course I do. I believe you can be saved just by taking the cup of salvation and calling upon the name of the Lord. That's what the Bible teaches.
 
Upvote 0
Status
Not open for further replies.