Trump brokers peace between Kosovo and Serbia

Trump did 1 non destructive thing . I’m shocked ! Wonder if he’s taking credit for someone else’s work

Brightmoon said:

Wonder if he’s taking credit for someone else’s work

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Now that is uncharitable. We can easily see how close he has been working on this by all the times he brings Kosovo up in his tweets.

Anyone want to do the honors ?

Also since Kosovo and Serbia were not at war it is bit of misquote to say Trump brokered a peace.

If this lessens tensions around there all good but for all intent and purposes Serbia still considers Kosovo as part of Serbia.

Having been there as part of KFOR this is actually interesting stuff.

For fat chance anyone is interested about local politics here is a recent analysis

Jonathan Walkerin said:

Also since Kosovo and Serbia were not at war it is bit of misquote to say Trump brokered a peace.

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It is significant though that Kosova wants to see him awarded. I guess they disagree with you.

Isn't it fascinating that President Trump, the businessman, got these two heads of state to sign an economic normalization deal? Just the other day he got two Middle Eastern Muslim countries to sign the Abraham Accords that stipulated cooperation and agreements in various business spheres.

We should always elect an astute businessman for president.

It iS about time President Trump gets awarded for any one of his many contributions to humanity!!! BRAVISIMO!!!!

Bobber said:

It is significant though that Kosova wants to see him awarded. I guess they disagree with you.

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Just said they were not at war which they were not. Granting international awards is politics.

If you feel Trump had anything to do with this, that he actually has a slightest clue about Balkan international politics or that major players in Kosovo in reality feel any gratitude for Trump’s non involvement and lack of knowledge about the area, their history, their religion (mostly Muslims) you are just fooling yourself.

Just another diplomatic scheme Trump administration timed to hit just before elections.

Nothing more or less.

hislegacy said:

PRISTINA, Kosovo (AP) — Kosovo’s awarded U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday with one of the country’s highest honors for his government’s efforts on peace and reconciliation in the former war-torn region.

President Hashim Thaci awarded Trump with Kosovo’s Order of Freedom “for his exceptional contribution for the freedom of Kosovo and the strengthening of Peace and reconciliation in the region.”

The honor is given to local and foreign citizens for their high contribution in defending Kosovo’s freedom.

Trump’s administration has been working to normalize relations between Serbia and Kosovo, two former Balkan war foes, and two weeks ago Serbian President Aleksander Vucic and Kosovo Prime Minister Avdullah Hoti signed an economic normalization deal at the White House.

Thaci also awarded Trump’s National Security Adviser Robert O’Brien and his envoy for Serbia-Kosovo talks Richard Grenell with the lower Presidential Medal of Merits, saying they were “indispensable” for the deal.

It is put out by the AP -

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MSNBC reports Kosovo is interfering in our election.

Kidding aside, the legacy of Trump that will not be noticed for a generation is his work on peace agreements. Between this deal, the Israel deal with several Arab nations and so on, Trump has done a good job at negotiating peace. He won't get credit for it but future historians will take peace into account when reassessing his one term Presidency.

Bobber said:

It is significant though that Kosova wants to see him awarded. I guess they disagree with you.

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Or he told them to do,it as part of some deal.

hislegacy said:

Somewhat agree with the exception of the one term.

These agreements fly in the face of the “the world is laughing at us” narrative. If Trump is such a joke and Obama was held in such high esteem, why didn’t Obama negotiate these agreements in the eight years he was being held in such high esteem?

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What specifically did Trump do here?

Redwingfan9 said:

the legacy of Trump that will not be noticed for a generation is his work on peace agreements. Between this deal, the Israel deal with several Arab nations and so on, Trump has done a good job at negotiating peace. He won't get credit for it

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He has taken credit for minor agreements between countries that had nothing hostile going between them like UAE and Israel while on the other hand blustering and threatening in diplomatic circles while reneging deals US did before his administration.

The things that would have earned him place in history like settling Palestinian question or negotiating dismantling of North Korean nukes.

All failures.

If anyone really thinks Trump is going to be remembered as a statesman on world stage he is in for rude awakening.

This is the Trump the world will remember


Well if he is lucky. There are worse moments, but that one was kind of charming in its naivety.

Jonathan Walkerin said:

He has taken credit for minor agreements between countries that had nothing hostile going between them like UAE and Israel while on the other hand blustering and threatening in diplomatic circles while reneging deals US did before his administration.

The things that would have earned him place in history like settling Palestinian question or negotiating dismantling of North Korean nukes.

All failures.

If anyone really thinks Trump is going to be remembered as a statesman on world stage he is in for rude awakening.

This is the Trump the world will remember

Well if he is lucky. There are worse moments, but that one was kind of charming in its naivety.

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Open diplomatic relations between Israel and Arab nations is a big deal. It isn't just UAE, there are apparently 5 in the works. Saudi Arabia is debating signing on internally. This is a massive step because it puts pressure on the Palestinians to come to the table and actually negotiate.

As for North Korea, I'm not going to blame Trump for making an effort there. He gave them absolutely nothing but he opened the door to communication. I would rather we communicate with countries like North Korea than go radio silent.

As for overturning prior deals, his NATO actions haven't been great. I would rather he seek a renegotiating of the entire treaty as it is out dated at this point. The Soviet Union and its satellites are gone, which has left NATO without a real purpose and yet it still exists 30 years later saber rattling with Russia and fighting amongst itself. It's time to rethink the alliance and rethink American involvement.

As for Obama's Iran deal, good riddance to a poorly negotiated trainwreck of a deal.

Redwingfan9 said:

He gave them absolutely nothing

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Well apart from international recognition they have craved for years they now got for nothing and cancelling those pesky war games that help to keep troop readiness up.

And he got to write some North Korean official love letters.

So sure , great statesmanship all around.

Redwingfan9 said:

This is a massive step because it puts pressure on the Palestinians to come to the table and actually negotiate.

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Bit rich after he gave Israel everything they wanted and now he expects Palestinians to negotiate under duress.

Just another mess he transfers to next administration while crying later how it was totally in the works like all the other hypothetical yyyge deals he just didn’t have time to implant because deep state got him and formed too many mail votes.

As for Iran. Trump figured they would fold and make deal with him instead they have entered long term economic alliance with China while assassinating their top general groomed for political leadership ensures that while they have no great reason to make a military suicide that action will reap consequences in years to come.

hislegacy said:

Read the link, it isn’t me giving him an award, it is the country. Evidently they think much higher of him than elements in the US does.

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So you don’t know?

hislegacy said:

I am not required to know every jot and tittle of why they have chosen to thank and honor our President for brokering peace.

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You even haven’t figured out yet that he brokered no peace at all. Let’s try it one more time. There was a war that ended over 20 years ago.

Kosovo War - Wikipedia

The award given to Trump is mainly for helping with some economic deal between participants of that said war Kosovo (former Serb province) and Serbia which has been naturally enough done by diplomatic corps since certainly Trump has more pressing times to figure out.

Even the award notification mentions “strengthening the peace” and whatnot.

It is an area with long and complicated history you certainly aren’t going to read about so TLDR

War ended 20 years ago and it wasn’t ended by Trump. He did not get awarded for that. He had nothing to do with it.

He took the credit for US diplomatic work in the area that hopefully actually does something positive which remains to be seen.

hislegacy said:

Two things

First, Since Obama was so much better internationally than Trump, Why didn’t he get it done in the eight years he was so popular globally?

Secondly, evidently the President of Kosovo sees things differently than you do. Now who do I believe more? The President of Kosovo who is giving the award, or someone on an internet discussion board.

I’ll go with the President of Kosovo.

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The first point.

Most likely political situation was bit different 8 years ago since the war was more recent and tensions in the area have probably mellowed a bit. Or frankly US diplomats had more important things to do.

Second point

The award by President HashimThaci for Trump was

”for his exceptional contribution for the freedom of Kosovo and the strengthening of Peace and reconciliation in the region.”

Nobody is saying he brokered peace apart from you. Not even the President of Kosovo. War ended 1999. Why is this hard to grasp ?

The participants signed

“Serbian President Aleksander Vucic and Kosovo Prime Minister Avdullah Hoti signed an economic normalization deal at the White House.”

Also you wouldn’t have to believe random guys in the internet if you ever bothered to read your own links.