Blm Co-founder admitted the movement is based on witchcraft

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It means a peaceful society can only occur when there is justice. For me, when I chant it, I’m saying don’t expect me to just go along with this injustice. I’m going to keep protesting and marching and chanting and fighting, because I’m not going to let the people in power think that everything is Ok when it’s not. I’m not going to pretend that we have peace when black people do not have peace. I’m not going to pretend that we have peace because a certain class of people is insulated from the suffering that poverty and racism and the criminal justice system causes. There is no peace until we all have peace. There is no peace until black lives matter as much as white lives.

The fact that the chant comes from MLK, one of the greatest architects of non-violent protest, should be enough to tell you that the chant is not intended as a threat of violence. Since you know it comes from him, why are you questioning it’s intent?
People dont want to hear this.

They prefer the violence so they dont have to think about the actual issues people are upset over. They will even invent it, like BLM starting forest fires or whatever.
 
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I have no problem with those who stand on a street corner and chant whatever they like while waving signs around. But when they go into businesses and demand people chant their slogans, or drag people out of cars and beat them with bricks, or burn down businesses and homes, or start wildfires, then I have a problem with it.
I also have a problem with them threatening businesses and organizations into advertising for them. Fortunately, those that do are reaping the consequences of it and will continue to do so until they cease.
Most of what’s on that list hasn’t even happened. Now all crime is committed by BLM protesters? And you want to claim that those of us chanting “no justice, no peace” did all of that? Take that to the conspiracy forum.
 
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No leader at any BLM event I’ve ever been to has promoted, encouraged, or condoned violence. To the contrary, most leaders have discouraged it and promoted peaceful protest. How do you know what the leaders are or aren’t conveying? Have you ever been at a march or rally?

Because I can’t find anything on them condemning the actions of these violent people to clear their name. Can you?
 
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People dont want to hear this.

They prefer the violence so they dont have to think about the actual issues people are upset over. They will even invent it, like BLM starting forest fires or whatever.
Yes! And this is why I believe that the cops put far more energy into teargassing and beating peaceful protesters/ shutting down protest than they do apprehending the people damaging property and throwing Molotov cocktails. They want that stuff to continue so that all of the focus is on the “bad” protesters.
 
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Most that were separated were from thier traffickers, not parents. But I guess we should just leave them with the people who brought them here to sell thier bodies...

That is completely untrue, even the link posted shows that. What is it that makes you want to think that is the case?
 
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What's hateful about separating children from child traffickers?
What is the current U.S. policy on families caught crossing the border?

For years the U.S. has given three reasons for separating kids from the adults who brought them across the border:

  • Border agents and officials suspect the kids don’t belong to the adults and/or might be the victims of human trafficking.
  • If child abuse is suspected.
  • If the adult is going to be charged with a crime. Kids can’t go to jail, so the Health and Human Services’ Office of Refugee Resettlement takes those children and places them in facilities, foster care or with family members.
BTW, this isn't something that only happened under the Trump administration...the only difference he implemented was to to criminally prosecute every person caught crossing the border illegally.

What has happened under the current administration is the automatic separation of children from their parents, and virtually zero effort even to make it look like they try to get kids back to their parents at any point.
 
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Because I can’t find anything on them condemning the actions of these violent people to clear their name. Can you?
How would you find that? Do you even know who the leaders are? I can’t even name most of the leaders here in Portland, how would you know who they are, and when are they ever being interviewed or covered by the press? I just posted that I have heard the leaders at numerous rallies call for and promote peaceful protest.

We do not think that the few violent acts from protesters is the problem. We think that the many, many, many acts of violence from the police and the criminal justice system, spanning generations, is the problem. The desperate or misguided acts of a tiny percentage of protesters are a symptom of the problem. Civil unrest is a symptom of the problem. It will not stop because we “condemn” it. It will stop when people see justice. The people who do those things have been asked to stop by other protesters over and over. They don’t care what we think or say, they don’t follow the leaders of this movement.
 
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Because I can’t find anything on them condemning the actions of these violent people to clear their name. Can you?

When someone quickly shows you that they have done exactly that, what's the next level of absurdity? Actually, there hasn't been a representative of BLM at the scene of every crime recently, shouting into the criminals ear with a megaphone that they should stop - Wow they all must be violent satanists.
 
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That's not what he asked. Where's your evidence that most separated at the border are from traffickers, not parents?
I should have said " many". But the point is, it's a hard call to make. The border agents have a tough job. Would you want to chance leaving a kid with her trafficker? How do you know? Not everyone coming over the border is just fleeing a bad situation. There's gangsters, there's drug mules, human traffickers...
 
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I should have said " many". But the point is, it's a hard call to make. The border agents have a tough job. Would you want to chance leaving a kid with her trafficker? How do you know? Not everyone coming over the border is just fleeing a bad situation. There's gangsters, there's drug mules, human traffickers...
“And some, I assume, are good people”, yeah we’ve heard that one before.
 
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I should have said " many". But the point is, it's a hard call to make. The border agents have a tough job. Would you want to chance leaving a kid with her trafficker? How do you know? Not everyone coming over the border is just fleeing a bad situation. There's gangsters, there's drug mules, human traffickers...

The point is that you are responding to serious points with random notions from your own imagination. You don't need to rely on that, there is enough information on this kind of thing for you to inform yourself with - no need to live in an imaginary world. As you can probably understand detention centres are not really good places to traffic, whatever you mean by that in this context, or hide/sell drugs etc. There are procedures in place, specialist staff etc for figuring out who is who, who is at risk and so on, but the current administration has simply abandoned any semblance of even trying to make it look like the welfare of refugee children is of any importance. The single remaining goal is to get every last person out of the country asap, regardless of any other consideration.
 
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From the article in the OP:

'Sprits (sic) are invoked by repeating mantras, including the “say his name” refrain .....'

Is that why Lewis Hamilton was seen wearing a 'say her name' t-shirt?

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Not sure what you mean...of course some are good people.
“In June 2015, while Trump was a presidential candidate, he said, ‘When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best.’

He added: ‘They're sending people that have a lot of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.’”

source:Trump just referred to one of his most infamous campaign comments: calling Mexicans 'rapists'
 
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