Holy Spirit warned me and now He has gone?

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You ask about how the holy spirit can leave you. By saying this and forgive me your calling Christ a liar for He said "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;"

Christ, God, sweet sweet holy spirit are with you forever no matter how you feel hear or see. Resist the enemy and he will flee. Don't go by how you feel. KNOW no matter how you see hear of feel that He loves you is not against you .. is ALWAYS for you! You are so loved.. praying for you.
 
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God has not abandoned you - Christ died on a cross and was raised to life three days later, that you too, in your baptism died and raised with Christ through faith. This is an objective reality outside of yourself, whether you feel it or not.

The voice of the Holy Spirit is found right in the Bible. They are not dead words that need to be unlocked by the Holy Spirit or by some mystical experience, but they are the true living words of God.

Any words that you receive from any source that pertains to your salvation - if they don't point you to Christ, you can disregard the words as false.

This. A thousand times this.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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I feel it's too late for me now. My experience of Him leaving was very real.

He hasn't.

Don't look to yourself.
Don't look to your feelings.
Don't look to visions or dreams or various mystical or emotional or "spiritual" experiences.

Don't look inward.

Look outward, look to Jesus Christ.
Look upon Him, He who was crucified, who suffered, and who bled for you.
Look upon this One who was nailed to the cross, who died for you.
Don't look to anything except Jesus Christ and what He has done for you, this is His Gospel to you.

Trust in Jesus Christ.
Only in Jesus Christ.

Look to His word which He has spoken to you, it's right there in those precious pages of Holy Scripture.
Look to Him who has made you new in the waters of your Baptism, because He was there, right there, in that water with you.
Look to Him as He gives His own very flesh and His own very blood in the bread and the wine of His Holy Supper.

Christ is there, He is here, He is right there.
Believe in Him.
He will not abandon you.
He will not lie to you.
He will not injure you.
He will never put you to shame.

Trust in Him. His love for you shakes the earth (Matthew 27:51) and makes hell vapid and impotent, death has been defeated, the devil has been cast down, your sins have been forgiven.

Believe in Him.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Then why does the Eklesia today not look like the first century church?

Because this isn't the first century. History moves in a single direction, forward.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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"And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand.
My Father, Who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father's hand."

John 10:28-29
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"And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand.
My Father, Who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father's hand."

John 10:28-29
its uplifting to know The Perfect Love of God. It seems clear that you have not experienced The Word of God first hand as it applies to Hebrews 10:26-27. I believe that is what King Saul went through. I’ve had a significant taste of doing without the peace of God after willful sin. Since then, I’ve been greatly blessed with receiving The Love of God. Christ is our only way to God The Father.
Heb.10 Verses 26 to 27

  1. [26] For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
    [27] But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
 
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Thank you for sharing! That is such an uplifting promise!
The Promise is very uplifting. However please do not negate Hebrews 10. For if we sin willfully after having received the knowledge of the truth there remaineth no more sacrifice for sin but a certain fearful looking for if fiery indignation reserved for the adversary. I have experienced this and I guarantee you it’s very real. God is Love but He is also a Consuming Fire. Note both the goodness and severity of our Lord. I don’t want to alarm you but there is a significant experience that all heaven bound Christians must experience.
 
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its uplifting to know The Perfect Love of God. It seems clear that you have not experienced The Word of God first hand as it applies to Hebrews 10:26-27. I believe that is what King Saul went through. I’ve had a significant taste of doing without the peace of God after willful sin. Since then, I’ve been greatly blessed with receiving The Love of God. Christ is our only way to God The Father.
Heb.10 Verses 26 to 27

  1. [26] For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
    [27] But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
I don’t know how many years I went through the indignation but it is very real and very unpleasant.
 
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Sounds like you've been listening to some bad preachers.
I think so too, I believed the lie that Holy Spirit could be lost when the word of God says otherwise. He permanently indwells believers.
 
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I see that we share some similarities: I came to faith in 2017. I was wordly but little by little God set me free from many bondages. My desire was to be as good as possible for God. I tried to live without sin completely. But day after day I failed. Nevertheless, I had some strenghtenings of faith. At that time I thought that they were big in themselves but something greater was about to come... In summer 2018, God took me to His "school". My faith grew and strengthened. I read first time in my life the New Testament through. Repented. Prayed. Prayers were answered. In autumn 2018, I got closer to God wilfully, and every morning having woken up I felt His presence. I read the Bible and got "living waters" from it. My somewhat "radical" faith got stronger and I experienced God's miracles in my life. Blessings were abundant. Until one day...

In 2019, I was in a prayer and opening my heart to God. I was thanking Him for His miracles until devil came to stir up unbelief towards God's promises. It succeeded to sow a seed of unbelief to my heart. Then started falling...

I felt God's presence less and less and the unbelief grew continously. I cried out to God many times and every single time He helped me. The enemy was attacking me when I was weak. And when I was in the weakest point of my life (at that point it was the weakest), devil questioned why to have a relationship with Jesus. I didn't know the answer immediately and then I felt someone leaving me. I believed that the Spirit of God left me. I was terrified.

In the next morning I felt God's great absence. I was shocked and took the Bible. Got no "living waters" from it. I was petrified. I came to a conclusion that God had forsaken me. Things happened and I ended up in a ward. I was falsely accused by non-believing doctors of having psychosis. They forced me to eat medicine.

I was heartbroken. Hopeless. Desperate. Petriefied. I was so close to God but then all this happened! I felt emptiness in me.

Things happened in that ward which I consider to be from the Lord. A small amount of "miracles". Once I heard something which I think is from God and once the Word of God "opened" that I received "living waters" from it.

Finally, after having spent time a bit more than a month there I was allowed to go home without going there anymore. I felt that they (the staff on that ward and the doctors) destroyed me. I didn't read the Bible anymore, I was wordly etc.

I started visiting a person from whom later on became one friend of mine. One day the Lord spoke through this friend: I've opened you a door. You feel weak but God is strong in the weak. Strengthen my son, strengthen.

Weeks later, I had bad thoughts about God and I lost my hope. I thought that He forsook me again. But when I met my friend, the Lord spoke to me again, and He gave me a reason for this: "... but it's a strengthening of faith." My hope was restored.

And since that God has spoken to me promising many things: "Don't fear, don't fear." "Yet there comes a day where you can jump for the joy." "I'll never leave you, not for even a day." And even this, which can apply to all of us: "There's no sin which is that big that the work of the Golgotha can't cover."

The Lord continued speaking to me and He told me: "Thank the Lord." I tried to obey that exhortation. And I'm still daily thanking Him, waiting Him to come back to my life.

I was bitter towards God for what I had suffered without knowing it. One day He revealed that bitterness. Having heard that I tried to forsake the bitterness. It took maybe weeks to get rid of most of it.

Once He spoke to me this: "The Lord says that you're a child of God and always beloved for him." Additionally, He has spoken to me many, many promises. But the Lord has emphasized His love towards me this year even though I can't feel His divine love nor His presence neither can't hear His voice in my heart.

Also He has spoken about the consequences of this state: "My child, look, this suffering is to brighten my name."

Once He showed a revelation to this friend of mine (this is one of the many revelations): "I (God) will never forsake". This promise can apply to all of us.

Some promises from the Bible which the Lord has spoken to me: Psalms 18:4, Psalms 22:24-25, Psalms 25:3, Psalms 51:19, Psalms 57:3, Psalms 147:3, Isaiah 57:15, Isaiah 43:18-21, Isaiah 40:27-29, Isaiah 41:10, Romans 8:38-39, Hebrews 7:25.

About my own experience: I don't feel the Lord's presence, can't speak with Him, the Bible doesn't give me "the living waters". Most of the time I'm emotionless. Can't think properly because the inner voice who used to be the Holy Spirit is quiet. I see no beauty in this world, can't feel joy for anything. This person (Simon) who's talking to you is still missing the relationship with the Lord. But one day, I hope and desire, I'll receive Him back. There's some promises denoting to that indirectly.

I hope you get better now, even a bit. God loves you, He cares about you. Think about this: Romans 11:29.
AMP: For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable [for He does not withdraw what He has given, nor does He change His mind about those to whom He gives His grace or to whom He sends His call].

(Sorry for including so many "I" and "me" when denoting to me, I don't know how to omit those.)
Thanks, we have been through similar situations. Mine is worse since the devil shot my head and has completely taken part of it away. That helmet of salvation is important. I feel I have no hope in this life but all I can do is try to make the most of every day.
 
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If you are saved you don't need to do nothing. There is no such helmet of salvation and demons are unable to hurt us, this is why they are raging around trying to get into your mind and you allowing them.
´Put on salvation as your helmet' - Ephesians 6:17 Unfortunately they did hurt me very badly.
 
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Praying in the personal prayer language you have been given is the best, strongest, fastest way to stay and abide in the shadow of the Almighty that I know of. Without ceasing, keeping the mind "stayed on Him".

this
 
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Thank you friend, there are so few who walk in this truth.
It is, I believe, as Jesus said of these days that most would hold to an outward form and deny the power.
God always seems to work with a remnant, never a majority.
I believe that this may be why He is pouring out His Spirit more than He has ever done in these last days, that those who walk in the fullness will have a more powerful prayer life.
Even here in this "Christian" forum we see some repeat what they were inculcated "sufficiency of scripture" and deny what the scripture directs to, the fullness of walking in Holy Spirit relationship with the Father and the Son.
bless you friend
 
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´Put on salvation as your helmet' - Ephesians 6:17 Unfortunately they did hurt me very badly.

This means if you are saved, you have helmet. But not real helmet, it is only said so. Which means for you to keep on the good side. If you are not already saved, don't give up. How much more time it cost you to be saved, that much will be better salvation. As we know everybody have different reward on heaven, based on our works.
 
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´Put on salvation as your helmet' - Ephesians 6:17 Unfortunately they did hurt me very badly.
This means that your salvation protects you.. You don't put it on and take it off.. It's permanent...

What you should be paying more attention to is the previous verses..

The Armor of God
10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

the belt of truth buckled around your waist : Truth is .... all of what you are talking about is deception.. from the enemy...

breastplate of righteousness in place : As a child of God you are seen as righteous through Christ.. Live to follow Christ, follow His ways. This protects your changed heart.

take up the shield of faith, This faith.. is what saved you.. also have faith that the deceiver will flee from you when you tell him to... in the name of Christ.

Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. This one you have already mentioned.. If you are saved.. you have the helmet continually... And.. what did Christ use every time the devil tempted Him? Yes.... the scriptures.... Satan knows them... but he twists them... Quote them to him when he lies to you.. but use the correct truth.. not his lies... He will flee from you when you command him to with the name of Christ.


 
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Thanks, we have been through similar situations. Mine is worse since the devil shot my head and has completely taken part of it away. That helmet of salvation is important. I feel I have no hope in this life but all I can do is try to make the most of every day.

I lived about 3 months of hell on earth until God spoke to me. I had no hope. I saw how I looked more and more carnal, not spiritual. I sent a message on this forums where I told about the importance to abide in Christ. I was encouraging others knowing that I had no hope. Still God didn't forsake me although I felt so. I read the Bible and judged myself according to what I read. I thought I was an apostate.

Now I remember what God said once to me in this state: "God is the God of hope, the living God." Also: Jeremiah 29:11.

When I was in the most desperate situation of my life, at the very best timing, God gave me hope.

Lamentations 3:21-33. Why would God forsake you? He sent His only begotten Son so that you would have life in Him. He made everything to save you!

By the way, did you live in "the first love". I did until all this stuff happened. I'll emphasize this: "God will never forsake you! He loves you!"

You know what? God has spoken to me these Bible verses twice: Romans 8:28. And yet, I have not felt any love, by feelings, toward God. And I'm still emotionless, most of the time. Why would God say that to me even though I feel nothing? Numbers 23:19. Loving should then be more than just a feeling.

I've to admit that I've no connection to the spiritual realm, still. I think I've just my thoughts.

Isaiah 41:17.

I want to encourage you because I know what it feels to be forsaken by God. And actually I'm not forsaken. Seek a good pastor or a priest or visit one of your friends. Ask them to pray for you continually. Don't lose hope. Think about this: I had no friends, just me and God. When I lost the spiritual connection I was all alone. Without hope. Just telling this from my own experience.

I ask you: "Does the world appear as beautiful as it was when you were in the relationship with God?" "Do you have thoughts, I mean, are you that broken that you can't think properly?" For me, the world seems no longer beautiful and I cannot think properly without saying out loud.
 
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The doctors just put you on anti-psychotic drugs. They have no idea and cannot help.

Are you taking them? We’re you diagnosed with a condition that may mean you are experiencing a manic episode?
 
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Why did He leave me, was it because I was fearful and doubted too much? Or because the enemy had a legal right to come in and steal because of my fear? I was warned so many times but did not know how to escape! It does not seem fair at all. I am now dreading hell but I am young woman after God's own heart. I am surrounded by Christians but feel like a hypocrite now. My desire to pray, read the Bible or worship has gone because I can't do it without the Holy Spirit. It is a terrible situation since church was my life, God was my life and now I cannot have God, I do not want life. But if I die I do not want hell, though the separation I feel from God feels like hell already.[/QUOTE]

Christ said, lo I am with you always even unto the end of the age. He does not leave usThe Holy Spirit indwells the believer. The Bible says no one can take you from the Fathers hand, no one at all. This includes satan who was defeated at the cross. There is only one eternal and all powerful power in the Universe and it is God. He is the creator. He is not controlled by the creation nor is He subject to it. He is above all. His promises are true.
 
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I've lived a pure life, set apart for Jesus. Born again at a young age and speaking in tongues and have never gone into the world and never will. Once I gave my life to Jesus, I never looked back and He set me free from sin and I grew so close to God and Holy Spirit. Extremely close. I got baptised at age 20 which was glorious and amazing. The next year I got attacked spiritually and thought I had lost salvation but God led me through that wilderness and I discovered that I am His chosen beloved child! I had not lost salvation. The 'I am who you say I am' Hillsong album was timely and came out when I needed it. It was very tough trial but God got me through it and I saw His hand on my life. He gave me many visions and comforted me.
From this trial, I developed a weakness in the mind of ocd thoughts that got in the way of my relationship with God. Holy Spirit cleared most of this up in 2019. But a few things happened in Dec that made the weakness come back and got worse. I started 2020 in a panic! I needed the whole world to pray for me!
So God was chasing me down and giving me signs that I am victorious and safe. Because I felt weaker due to the thoughts, I needed Him to fight for me and He did! How I felt made me think that Holy Spirit had left but He had not left me and never will leave me. The only reason I believed this is because of how close I had been to Him. However, I started to get signs and threats of Him leaving. Holy Spirit was warning me about hardening my heart about hell. I believed the lie that I was going to hell and that He had left. He told me not to be so hard on myself. By February this year on the 17th God's power came over me and I was in the tangible presence of God for over 30 minutes. It was my victory day!

I got a fresh baptism of the Holy Spirit on 17th Feb 2020. It was amazing and glorious. This did not last but I did get a victorious awakening on the 14th March 2020. Rainbows came out as a sign of God's true promise on the 21st and on the 22nd a candle of hope was lit worldwide. Also on this day Holy Spirit warned me saying, 'hell is illegal' warned of double doors and said 'you must trust', 'must trust'. He said it very clearly.

I still felt so vulnerable in the spirit realm and I ended up on the 26th March getting shot in the head by a demon. This was quite severe and sore. More shots happened and on the 29th March, I felt Holy Spirit's power leaving wave after wave. The power literally was sucked out of my body and it physically changed me. After that a spiritual drink was poured in by the enemy and left me empty and weightless. This was the double doors opening in the spirit I was warned about it. I lost what felt like a stone of spiritual weight. This was so serious and severe. I could not stop weeping and shouting out. My own spirit that was reborn got destroyed! Can you imagine the agony! I have been in agony since March 29th 2020. I cannot get in the presence of God, it seems impossible. No one understands what happened. They tell me just have faith He will never leave but it's too late!

Why did He leave me, was it because I was fearful and doubted too much? Or because the enemy had a legal right to come in and steal because of my fear? I was warned so many times but did not know how to escape! It does not seem fair at all. I am now dreading hell but I am young woman after God's own heart. I am surrounded by Christians but feel like a hypocrite now. My desire to pray, read the Bible or worship has gone because I can't do it without the Holy Spirit. It is a terrible situation since church was my life, God was my life and now I cannot have God, I do not want life. But if I die I do not want hell, though the separation I feel from God feels like hell already.

The curse of death the law brings was defeated by our savior and lord, Jesus Christ. If you ask me, this actually sounds the opposite of what you think it is. The more God trust you, and the more he seeks to reward you... this means more challanges he will put you in your sanctification. So rejoice and finish the good fight because at the end of your life, there are rewards for those who fight. Just as Job, the holy ghost is allowing you to grow, he isnt gone. He is just letting room for you to become something better.
 
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