Trump agrees to Joe Rogan moderated debate

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One half, of an 8-hour workday is too much? What happens in the war room during a crisis? Everyone gets a floor mat for nap time?


A war room situation is not 2 people being interviewed. It's a room full of people, responsible for different aspects of the problem, talking to each other. They would also take breaks if they are to function properly.

The intensity of the interaction is completely different.

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A war room situation is not 2 people being interviewed. It's a room full of people, responsible for different aspects of the problem, talking to each other. They would also take breaks if they are to function properly.

The intensity of the interaction is completely different.

OB

Trump had a 6-hour meeting with Kim Jong-un. That was all chit-chat, no stress or intensity? 'G' summits are entire day, multiday events, that even require hours of meet and greet, walking and standing for pictures. Trump readily stands for 2 and a half hours sometimes 3 times a day while giving a speech at his rallies. 2 hours and 15 min with Putin. Almost 3 hours with Modi.

How long does Biden's battery last?
 
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Sure these things are a major development! How can you say they're not. If Arab nations keep siding in with recognizing Israel's existence it leads to much peace. Saudi Arabia might be next.
Have any of these countries been in a shooting war with Israel in the last 60 years?
 
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Maybe Joe will convince them to burn one as they discuss, like he did Elon Musk. :eek:
After the relocation to Texas the cannabis is going to be off camera for some time.
 
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Have any of these countries been in a shooting war with Israel in the last 60 years?
You're missing the greater point. It does shut down the Palestinians hope or desire that all the Arab nations would join with them in trying to carry of another 1967 Six Day War event. In doing so it ultimately might bring even them to the table of peace.
 
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You're missing the greater point. It does shut down the Palestinians hope or desire that all the Arab nations would join with them in trying to carry of another 1967 Six Day War event. In doing so it ultimately might bring even them to the table of peace.
It gives Israel the green light to simply annex the Palestinian territory. That would complete both the frontal and back knifing.

I would agree that the Arab countries haven't done much for the Palestinians, especially the richer Arab nations.

Oh, and will Israel really stay cool with the arms sales to Saudi Arabia and other Arab nations that sign on?
 
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It's more likely that this agreement makes that move (annexing the West Bank) MORE difficult, not less.
"pausing" annexation is like a truce in Afghanistan.
 
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The first debate is moderated by Fox News, which should make Trump happy.

Fortunately they scoured their staff and found one well respected journalist who wasn't a fawning sycophant-Chris Wallace.

We are "auditioning presidents," you know. A debate requires seriousness and decorum. Even high school debates have strict rules.

We don't watch debates to see who does the best WWE imitations, trying to win by bullying and intimidation.

We look for a command of the facts and knowledge of the issues.

Personally, I don't like interruptions. The opponent should wait for his rebuttal time, but it seems as if bad manners scores points. Not with me.
 
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Me. I just watched Biden's "Hispanic Heritage Event" Let me tell you... nothing could be more boring. Someone did clap at some point tho. That was exciting.
Keep it boring.

Thats actually the best Biden strategy at this point. Calm vs chaos. Thats the decision he's projecting.
 
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Keep it boring.

Thats actually the best Biden strategy at this point. Calm vs chaos. Thats the decision he's projecting.

Honestly as an individual that grew up as a child caring for the elderly, a Mom that works for Hospice, and having performed as an occupational therapist in Crystal river geriatrics, I view this as elder abuse. This man does not have the mental faculties to understand he is being manipulated by his caretakers. He has no clue what he is doing. I believe he has even less awareness of what is actually going on. He just trusts the surrounding people and reads whatever they place in front of him.

'Here do this... sign this, Joe... it will be good for you.'

It's sad. It's criminal. I would never have allowed my Dad to be paraded around like that.
 
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If it’ll ease people’s fears of bias from the moderator then I guess it would be ok. It’s not that I’m against Joe Rogan hosting, I just don’t see how he really fits into it but he himself wouldn’t be terrible. Just seems like an obvious ratings grab for an otherwise uneventful and terribly predictable show.
Joe openly declared that he can't vote for Biden because he is senile.
 
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So how big is this guy’s audience?

I heard about 24 million full time listeners, then you got a lot of people like myself that will watch little videos of segments that are posted on You-tube that I'm sure are in the millions.

What is important however to consider is the place of "legacy media, as far as your cable news TV anchors etc. when you compare that audience of CNN for example it's audience is very low comparatively speaking. And their You-tube videos even less than their live broadcasts and reruns.

Monday, Sept. 14 Scoreboard: Tucker Carlson Earned 4.6 Million Viewers in the 8 p.m. Hour
 
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Joe openly declared that he can't vote for Biden because he is senile.

Yes, and previously for months he was leaning towards Biden. But guess what, if Biden being senile, is just a rumor, misperception, bad luck and misspeaking, that can be easily fixed by him being lucid and well spoken for hours at an event like this.
 
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If you ask me, Rogan is a better guy to moderate a debate between a liberal and conservative than having some partisan hack from CNN or Fox do it.
(as long as he doesn't drift off too much into trying to get them to do DMT or practice jiu jitsu lol)

idk man... I would 100% rather watch Rogan do BJJ with a tie-wearing Bas Rutten.



Except many radio shows (in the political sphere) have a lopsided bias in one direction or the other...nor do most radio shows get that many listeners per month.

He's had a pretty eclectic group of guests, and managed to have interesting conversations with all of them.

Like I noted in the previous post:
Bernie Sanders, to Andrew Yang, to Alex Jones, to Ben Shapiro, to Elon Musk, to the leader of the Proud Boys, to Sam Harris, to Milo, to Cenk Uygur, to Edward Snowden, to Darrel Dawkins, etc...

And that's just scratching the surface...

I can honestly say, the guy can have an interesting conversation with anyone (and challenge them on their own views in most cases)

If you can find another person who's been able to have a productive conversation with that wide array of guests, I'd be interested to hear their show lol.

I listen to Ezra Klein's show pretty regularly and IMO, it smokes Rogan's by a wide margin. Every time I try to listen to Rogan, it sounds dim-witted and juvenile compared to what I'm used to. Klein is openly liberal, but has plenty of conservative guests (e.g. David Brooks, Yuval Levin, George Will, JD Vance) with whom he has very interesting conversations - in fact, those episodes are some of my favorites. While he hosts plenty of conservatives, he doesn't have guests who are illiberal, or professionally disingenuous or manipulative, so folks like Milo and Alex Jones would never make the cut.
 
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I listen to Ezra Klein's show pretty regularly and IMO, it smokes Rogan's by a wide margin. Every time I try to listen to Rogan, it sounds dim-witted and juvenile compared to what I'm used to. Klein is openly liberal, but has plenty of conservative guests (e.g. David Brooks, Yuval Levin, George Will, JD Vance) with whom he has very interesting conversations - in fact, those episodes are some of my favorites. While he hosts plenty of conservatives, he doesn't have guests who are illiberal, or professionally disingenuous or manipulative, so folks like Milo and Alex Jones would never make the cut.

I've heard Ezra's stuff, it's decent, but does he have the same audience size? When you look at just one large source of podcast access, Stitcher, Rogan's ranked #1, Ezra is at #40.

If we're being honest, it's doubtful we'll hear any official debates via a Podcast, but if they were going to break the mold, I would think they'd have to go with someone with a massive audience. Neither candidate is going to agree to participate on one that only gets 40k downloads per month. However, you start talking 190 million downloads per month like what Rogan has, or like some of the ones NPR sponsors that are up in the 50 million range per month...then they may be willing to roll the dice on a new medium for debates.

Also, the other element in addition to being able to have a conversation is also being able to be assertive enough to actually moderate.

Personally, one of the more interesting podcasts I like is Sam Harris', with a close 2nd being Dave Rubin, but I don't think either of them has the ability to moderate all that well, as Harris would be too passive, let them both steamroll, and then point out the issues on the following week's podcast, and Rubin would be likely be interrupting to tell them why they're both wrong. (which is the same reason why Shapiro would be a lousy moderator)
 
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After the relocation to Texas the cannabis is going to be off camera for some time.

Well, he's moving to Austin, TX...which isn't exactly like the rest of the state.

That was one of the big questions people were asking, and a response article was written stating the following:

In Texas, marijuana is illegal. In Austin, Texas, where Rogan is moving, police have said they won’t cite or arrest people for small amounts of marijuana possession anymore, The Texas Tribune reported. Police Chief Brian Manley said in a memo: “APD will no longer cite or arrest individuals with sufficient identification for Class A or Class B misdemeanor ‘possession of marijuana’ offenses, unless there is an immediate threat to a person’s safety or doing so as part of the investigation of a high priority, felony-level narcotics case or the investigation of a violent felony.”

In January, Austin City Council approved a resolution to stop ticketing or arresting most low-level marijuana possession cases.

Basically, as long as you're not getting caught with "trafficking-level" amounts, sounds like the worst that will happen is they confiscate your stash and you go on about your day... and if you're Joe Rogan and have his money, and the consumption is happening in his own home, it's doubtful anything would ever be done about it.

It's been a few years, but the last time I was in Austin saying with a buddy who lives there, we were on the patio of an establishment enjoying some live music and BBQ on an October evening, and some folks were partaking (I won't confirm or deny if I was was one of those folks lol), and nobody seemed to care.
 
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