I use an English Standard Version, a story about

usexpat97 · Sep 15, 2020

tampasteve said:
I can agree with that, but I also think it behooves the publisher to put an annotation that older manuscripts don't have the verses. It also makes for a more informed reader. It is not just the Mark verses either as there are more verses, so if one strictly uses the KJV or similar translations one will not be properly prepared to discuss scripture in an informed way.

Have to say it:

Go Lightning. Beat the Islanders.

Anthony2019 · Sep 15, 2020

tampasteve said:
Many would say that the KJV adds verses, not takes them away. I would agree with that as the evidence points to the verses being added later. They don't really change the picture of salvation or the story overall, so that is not impacted.

ESV is a very good translation, CSB and NIV are good for more basic English than the ESV uses.

I've never been that keen on the KJV as a translation, but I have to say I love its traditional language style!

lambofgod43985889 · Sep 15, 2020

usexpat97 said:
Have to say it:

Go Lightning. Beat the Islanders.

I don't understand the sentence D:

lambofgod43985889 · Sep 15, 2020

Anthony2019 said:
I've never been that keen on the KJV as a translation, but I have to say I love its traditional language style!

Maybe that's cosmetic, stylish.

Tigger45 · Sep 15, 2020

lambofgod43985889 said:
I don't understand the sentence D:

The Lightning are a professional hockey team from Tampa Bay Florida. Which is where @tampasteve is from.

lambofgod43985889 · Sep 15, 2020

Tigger45 said:
The Lightning are a professional hockey team from Tampa Bay Florida. Which is where @tampasteve is from.

Why he used that phrase to reply?

Isilwen · Sep 15, 2020

lambofgod43985889 said:
Why he used that phrase to reply?

The Tampa Bay Lightning are in the Stanley Cup playoffs and playing the New York Islanders. He was just saying he is cheering for them to win.

Athanasius377 · Sep 15, 2020

lambofgod43985889 said:
Should I have considerations of any sort?
Why do you use a different edition?

A pastor said: "I use King James version in english and Reina Valera 1960 in Spanish
The others versions remove verses"
The crowd clapped energetically

I think he was mistaken

The ESV is probably among the best if not the best overall modern translation into English. Others I would consider are the NASB and from what I have read so far the CSB. To echo what has already been said the KJV is a fine translation and a monument to 17th century scholarship. As to whether the modern versions remove verses is absurd. The translators of the KJV had a limited number of relatively late NT Greek manuscripts. Where as the ESV is based on not only those manuscripts but also more recent discoveries of even older manuscripts. The older MS do not have the longer readings. There are probably many reasons for this among them altered readings in liturgical books and scribes perhaps thought the liturgical source was better. Who knows why? The most attested to longer readings appear in the footnotes of the ESV and the NASB (and NET I’m told) regardless you have the full text to refer to. you have all the Bible you need. If you want to compare use online sources.

In other words the ESV is just fine. Don’t get side tracked by someone’s opinion.

as a side note, I have been really impressed with the CSB so far as well.

lambofgod43985889 · Sep 15, 2020

Athanasius377 said:
The ESV is probably among the best if not the best overall modern translation into English. Others I would consider are the NASB and from what I have read so far the CSB. To echo what has already been said the KJV is a fine translation and a monument to 17th century scholarship. As to whether the modern versions remove verses is absurd. The translators of the KJV had a limited number of relatively late NT Greek manuscripts. Where as the ESV is based on not only those manuscripts but also more recent discoveries of even older manuscripts. The older MS do not have the longer readings. There are probably many reasons for this among them altered readings in liturgical books and scribes perhaps thought the liturgical source was better. Who knows why? The most attested to longer readings appear in the footnotes of the ESV and the NASB (and NET I’m told) regardless you have the full text to refer to. you have all the Bible you need. If you want to compare use online sources.

In other words the ESV is just fine. Don’t get side tracked by someone’s opinion.

as a side note, I have been really impressed with the CSB so far as well.

God controls everything. He makes his word eternal

Athanasius377 · Sep 15, 2020

lambofgod43985889 said:
God controls everything. He makes his word eternal

Amen.

Athanasius377 · Sep 15, 2020

Anthony2019 said:
I've never been that keen on the KJV as a translation, but I have to say I love its traditional language style!

I agree. I think you get the most out of it by reading it aloud. It has a unique flow to the language.

eleos1954 · Sep 15, 2020

lambofgod43985889 said:
You made me feel sad because i have ESV study only, I'll send you my postal code for you to send me the revised version

you can go online and access many different translations for free and compare them
here is one place.

www.biblehub.com

tampasteve · Sep 16, 2020

Anthony2019 said:
I've never been that keen on the KJV as a translation, but I have to say I love its traditional language style!

The language is certainly majestic, and adds to the mystery of the scriptures. However, I tend to get "more" out of other translations. My daily is the NRSV and Artscroll right now, those are two of my favorites.

tampasteve · Sep 16, 2020

usexpat97 said:
Have to say it:

Go Lightning. Beat the Islanders.

haha, thanks! This is the year for Tampa sports it seems

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