Matthew 4:19

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19 Jesus called out, “Come along with me and I will show you how to fish for the souls of men!”

So what do you guy think this means? Finding/connecting the soul's of others to communicate or share each other's presence in a spiritual level?

What does it mean to fish for the souls of men? What do we do with the souls of others?
 

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19 Jesus called out, “Come along with me and I will show you how to fish for the souls of men!”

So what do you guy think this means? Finding/connecting the soul's of others to communicate or share each other's presence in a spiritual level?

What does it mean to fish for the souls of men? What do we do with the souls of others?

Is the Greek word for "soul" (psyche) in that verse?
 
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what do you mean?

definition of soul :
1 the spiritual or immaterial part of a human being or animal, regarded as immortal.

definition of psyche :
the human soul, mind, or spirit


Is the Greek word for "soul" (psyche) in that verse?
 
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definition of soul :
1 the spiritual or immaterial part of a human being or animal, regarded as immortal.

definition of psyche :
the human soul, mind, or spirit

I mean the word "soul" is not in that verse. Maybe that's a technical observation, but your OP depends so much on that particular word that I thought it might need pointing out. At any rate, don't mind me. :)
 
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Ah, then it must have taken some liberties in translation. Please forgive me, I don't want to derail your thought process. I saw your post and didn't renember that word being in the text and checked the Greek. But, someone could argue it's entailed. Again, forgive me. Carry on. :)

Check this out :

Matthew 4:19 "Come, follow Me," Jesus said, "and I will make you fishers of men."
pick your favorite version and get back to me. I'm curious to see what others think of this verse.
 
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19 Jesus called out, “Come along with me and I will show you how to fish for the souls of men!”

So what do you guy think this means? Finding/connecting the soul's of others to communicate or share each other's presence in a spiritual level?

What does it mean to fish for the souls of men? What do we do with the souls of others?

It just means convincing people to accept the gospel and Messiah. There is no owning or possessing of souls by other men. It would be helping the souls of men to be saved by spreading the gospel to them.
 
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19 Jesus called out, “Come along with me and I will show you how to fish for the souls of men!”
Hello Nick, which translation or paraphrase of Matthew 4:19 is that?

Thanks!

--David
 
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19 Jesus called out, “Come along with me and I will show you how to fish for the souls of men!”

So what do you guy think this means? Finding/connecting the soul's of others to communicate or share each other's presence in a spiritual level?

What does it mean to fish for the souls of men? What do we do with the souls of others?


Jeremiah 16:16
"Behold, I will send for many fishers, saith the LORD, and they shall fish them; and after will I send for many hunters, and they shall hunt them from every mountain, and from every hill, and out of the holes of the rocks."


I think the fishing illustration represents a more subtle way to proselytize and the hunting illustrating a more aggressive approach, perhaps.
 
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"Come, follow Me," Jesus said, "and I will make you fishers of men."

That seems to be the Berean Study Bible version, the only one that matches the words exactly. It seems quite clear, and agrees pretty well with most of the others.

Interpretation can be a very opinionated process. Please take my ideas with a large grain of salt.

We know from elsewhere that Jesus wants us to take the path He is showing us, and that that path leads to a new Kingdom unlike any ever seen on Earth before.

Jesus is talking to fishermen who use nets to catch fish. I think he wants us to metaphorically "catch" people -- but what is the net? I could quote scriptures here, but I'll just say that in my opinion Jesus wants us to share "The message of the Kingdom". Would that be the good news that Jesus offers us eternal life? It might be worth reading Acts chapter 2 where Peter repeats prophecy of a coming Kingdom, then says, 22 “Men of Israel, hear these words! Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved by God to you by mighty works and wonders and signs which God did by him in the midst of you, even as you yourselves know, 23 him, being delivered up by the determined counsel and foreknowledge of God, you have taken by the hand of lawless men, crucified and killed; 24 whom God raised up, having freed him from the agony of death, because it was not possible that he should be held by it.

The word for soul is not used in the original Greek of this passage. I think it's clearer to understand if we read it as is, and figure out that the "caught fish" were to be transformed, heart and soul, by the message. The TLB wants to be sure we don't overlook the fact that the very inner being, the soul and the spirit, of the men would be affected.
 
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definition of soul :
1 the spiritual or immaterial part of a human being or animal, regarded as immortal.

definition of psyche :
the human soul, mind, or spirit

We are in no way immortal ...

1 Timothy 6

Fight the Good Fight

11But you, O man of God, flee from these things and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, perseverance, and gentleness. 12Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made the good confession before many witnesses.13I charge you in the presence of God, who gives life to all things, and of Christ Jesus, who made the good confession in His testimony before Pontius Pilate:

14Keep this commandment without stain or reproach until the appearance of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15which the blessed and only Sovereign One—the King of kings and Lord of lords—will bring about in His own time. 16He alone is immortal and dwells in unapproachable light. No one has ever seen Him, nor can anyone see Him. To Him be honor and eternal dominion! Amen.
 
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19 Jesus called out, “Come along with me and I will show you how to fish for the souls of men!”
You base your theology on the TLB?!!

The expression "souls of men" is not in the Bible. Instead, the Bible has "antheropon," which means "people." Older translations render the word "men." Even the NLT (which is a functional revision of TLB) has:

Mat 4:19 Jesus called out to them, “Come, follow me, and I will show you how to fish for people!”
 
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You base your theology on the TLB?!!

The expression "souls of men" is not in the Bible. Instead, the Bible has "antheropon," which means "people." Older translations render the word "men." Even the NLT (which is a functional revision of TLB) has:

Mat 4:19 Jesus called out to them, “Come, follow me, and I will show you how to fish for people!”

Gently put! Why the pompous response?
 
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What does fishing for people mean?

Jesus first disciples were fishermen. They tried to gather fish in nets to be part of their catch to sell to others. When Jesus met them, playing on their understanding of their craft, he said to join him to gather people into the kingdom of God.
 
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19 Jesus called out, “Come along with me and I will show you how to fish for the souls of men!”

So what do you guy think this means? Finding/connecting the soul's of others to communicate or share each other's presence in a spiritual level?

What does it mean to fish for the souls of men? What do we do with the souls of others?

It's a translation thing...

Matthew 4:19 Greek Text Analysis

Spreading the good news .... the great commission.
 
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