Gigantic Icthyosaur Found With A 12 ft. Reptile Inside Its Stomach

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If they are sorted that way, only an intelligence force could do that, not a force of destruction.

No... If they're sorted that way (and AFAIK, they are) and isotopic content corresponds to age (and AFAIK, it does), then all it would mean is that the stuff on the bottom has been there for longer.
 
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They got waterlogged and sank.

"A related form of logging consists of salvaging logs which loggers have abandoned after they became waterlogged and sank."

Or maybe the floating logs are witches, and the ones that sank are innocent. Honestly, assuming they have been literally turned to stone because they sank is just as ridiculous.


You seem to forget that they were deposited into the lake by pyroclastic flows from the volcano which can contain elements increasing the odds of petrification, even within a short period of time. And I suppose all the logs that were once floating in Spirit Lake were innocent because they all eventually sank, but they sank in an upright position. That doesn't happen unless one end of the log is made heavier than the other. What do you think would have caused that if was not material from the pyroclastic flows being absorbed into the trees that were deposited into the lake?
 
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Myths arent lies.

God is not in the myth-making business and when He gives parables and illustrations an interpretation is always given; Parables and illustrations are never presented as an event that happened.
 
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No... If they're sorted that way (and AFAIK, they are) and isotopic content corresponds to age (and AFAIK, it does), then all it would mean is that the stuff on the bottom has been there for longer.

That is only "assuming" that the corresponding age is accurate but YECs are not claiming that there were not rocks with some measure of isotopic content before the flood.
 
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You seem to forget that they were deposited into the lake by pyroclastic flows from the volcano which can contain elements increasing the odds of petrification, even within a short period of time.

I certainly have not forgotten that you asserted that without evidence. And having been asked to provide some, you have done more tap-dancing than Danny freaking Kaye did in his entire career.
 
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I certainly have not forgotten that you asserted that without evidence. And having been asked to provide some, you have done more tap-dancing than Danny freaking Kaye did in his entire career.


And you have not given an explanation as to how trees, deposited by a pyroclastic flow, sink to the bottom of a lake in an upright position without some degree of petrification involved.
 
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And you have not given an explanation as to how trees, deposited by a pyroclastic flow, sink to the bottom of a lake in an upright position without some degree of petrification involved.
Just think of all of the time and effort you would save if you let go of the “need” for the Bible to be taken as “history”.
 
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Just think of all of the time and effort you would save if you let go of the “need” for the Bible to be taken as “history”.


Just think of how many more souls would be saved and how much stronger faith in Christ would be if we would just simply take the Bible as history
 
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Just think of how many more souls would be saved and how much stronger faith in Christ would be if we would just simply take the Bible as history
"Just" anything is the opposite of strength. It is surrendering thought; it is cowardice.
 
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One thing that God doesn't do is lie and to claim that something did not happen the way God said it did is to call Him a liar. The reason why there is nothing worth debating is because you haven't presented anything substantial to challenge the YEC position. Other participants on this thread have made a much better effort than you have.
Then, you won’t miss me.
 
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QUOTE="cow451, post: 75326385, member: 308827"]God does what he does. I have told you there is nothing worth debating, and I am not interested in Sunday School science. Good night and have a pleasant tomorrow.

One thing that God doesn't do is lie and to claim that something did not happen the way God said it did is to call Him a liar. The reason why there is nothing worth debating is because you haven't presented anything substantial to challenge the YEC position. Other participants on this thread have made a much better effort than you have.
Surprised such a highly evolved being like yourself can’t figure out how to delete your own post.
 
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"Just" anything is the opposite of strength. It is surrendering thought; it is cowardice.


Our faith is not a blind one. If our God throughout the scriptures was graciousness to provide signs and wonders as proof of His existence and authority, then He has also provided evidence in nature and history as well for those who desire to seek it out, but when presented with the evidence, are they willing to accept it as such?
 
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It has nothing to do with what they are, or what they contained....it's called thermodynamics.


And a whole different matter best discussed on a different thread.
 
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Surprised such a highly evolved being like yourself can’t figure out how to delete your own post.


It's not my fault the system did not lay bare before me a delete option. The fault lies with the designers of this forum.
 
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Our faith is not a blind one. If our God throughout the scriptures was graciousness to provide signs and wonders as proof of His existence and authority, then He has also provided evidence in nature and history as well for those who desire to seek it out, but when presented with the evidence, are they willing to accept it as such?

Just think of how many more souls would be saved and how much stronger faith in Christ would be if we would just simply take the Bible as history
"just simply take" is exactly blind faith
 
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"just simply take" is exactly blind faith


That goes both ways: Insisting that the universe was created by processes that cannot think, plan, plot, or devise is also an act of blind faith and a faith more blind than believing that God created the universe.
 
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That goes both ways: Insisting that the universe was created by processes that cannot think, plan, plot, or devise is also an act of blind faith and a faith more blind than believing that God created the universe.
Nobody is insisting anything, and certainly not on blind faith.

Every question that has ever been answered that could have a factual answer has been answered by science. Everything accepted on the basis of science is accepted because of the evidence and provisionally since new evidence could arise. There is no faith here.

Every morning in all my years, the sun has arisen. (Or for the pedants, every morning the Earth has rotated such that the Sun appears to rise over the eastern horizon.) In the experience of all my acquaintances who may be older, the sun has arisen every morning. In the annals of history, no one has ever documented a time when the sun has not arisen.

Is it faith then if I assert that the sun will rise tomorrow? No. Of course not. It is evidence based that is accepted provisionally -- after all, it could be true that we about to be struck by a meteor of sufficient mass and with the appropriate angle to stop our rotation.

Every event that can be shown to have occurred and for which a cause can be ascertained has been caused by another physical event. Every state of affairs the universe has ever had has had a state of affairs which proceeded it that was physical. All of them, ever. Trillions multiplied by trillions multiplied by trillions multiplied by trillions multiplied by trillions ...

It is a reasonable expectation that the event that caused our universe to begin expanding will be discovered to be--if it can be discovered--physical and natural and not requiring divine intervention. Provisionally.

And any cause that might be called 'prior' to that one, will be discovered to be physical. Provisionally.

No faith required.
 
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It's not my fault the system did not lay bare before me a delete option. The fault lies with the designers of this forum.
You can do it. The Designers are not plotting against you. But you will have to seek out new knowledge.
 
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