how to treat a "Christian" pedophile?

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mattew 18:6 is a reference to new believers
how to cure a pedophile nobody gave an answer, only judgements

Prove that it's a reference to new believers. Otherwise, that is your personal interpretation.

We all gave answers. Many believe it cannot be cured.

You simply don't want to hear what people have to say because it isn't lining up with what you want.
 
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How would you know? You have no idea what God has had me forgive. You talk without knowledge.
And that is worse. You can kill people with kindness. There are some things where only a hard truth works. Jesús called the Pharisees hypocrites, white washed walls---not kind. But it was truth. There is a difference between love, and mush. They needed to hear the harsh truth. It was no lack of love on the part of Jesus to call them what they were, it was love, what nowadays is called---tough love. You don't mollycoddle, sometimes you have to speak the harsh truth in order to help.
My parents did no favor to my drug addicted brother---years of buying him clothes that he sold for drugs, paying his rent that he used for drugs, buying him cars that he sold for drugs--they kept him in the gutter. He tried that with me and his 2 other brothers---he thought we were cruel for not giving him money and whatever he wanted. All they did was kill him with love. He died at 50, OD on heroin. While he was attempting to take all their money for himself. There are indications he helped the old man to his death, for the money. He would let him scream in pain---and take the pain meds himself. If they had done as we did, he'd still be here. You get no pat on the back from me. You do not state what your experience is with this. I have first hand experience. I have an abortion at 12, my first rape at 5, 3 more abortions, non of this did I want. I had no choice. Don't tell me that I have no kindness. I had to hold my brothers back from killing their father when they found out. I did not want to loose 3 brothers over him.
You have no insight at all and I still wonder why your interest in this is so high? They need psychiatric help. Not foolish pity.

I'm so very sorry to hear all this. God bless you.
 
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I don't believe most pedophiles molest children. I think it's a bit like bisexuals often choose to live an heterosexual lifestyle. Pedophiles often hate their sexual attraction towards children. These guys need much support. Christ changes hearts and they can be set free.

Don't fool yourself. Pedophilia is rapidly being dragged towards "normalcy".
List of pedophile advocacy organizations - Wikipedia
 
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What if they didn't actually do it though and are completely innocent of it and were only accused? (Not asking for myself.)

No one "just accuses" someone of a charge like that. Don't buy that defense!
Smart men make sure not to find themselves in such circumstances EVER with a little, innocent child.
 
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Nothing is ever and excuse for doing and/committing that act against a child ever, etc, not ever, etc, no matter what it is or what's truly going on with you, or just whatever the hell is wrong with you, etc, no not ever, etc...

If you ever cross that line, then you have truly gone past the point of no return, and deserve to punished or severely punished, or subject to the full penalty of the law fully, etc...

God Bless!
If we make it a mental handicap, we just made perverts the victims.
 
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No I'm talking about what if they were innocent but were arrested anyways,.. and what if he was the person you were currently engaged to. :(
That puts you between a very hard rock and another very hard rock.

Have you thought of what your future would be like with such a man?
1. NO CHILDREN, period, forever. under any circumstances or in any public or private situations.
Why? because it would only take one more such situation for him to go to jail.
2. He will have a public arrest record, which could (and should) limit where you live.
3. That same record could also limit his job possibilities in the future.
4. those are not bright prospects for a happy future together, sad to say.:(:(
 
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how the christianity should approach the pedophile, how to cure him? (him or her)

He has to cure himself. It all starts with the individual asking for help and seeing that its wrong. The church or Christian can do nothing more than tell him it's wrong until he asks for help. You can't force people to obey.
 
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If we make it a mental handicap, we just made perverts the victims.
Some of them may be victims of some kind and maybe some to a greater or lesser degree depending on the "some", etc, or the individual cases, etc, but that's still never an excuse for ever doing or committing the act, and those ones would still need to be punished and face the full penalty of the law regardless, etc...

Don't you agree with this?
 
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Isn't pedofilia the fallen version of protective love for children? Just as, say, psychosexual domination is the fallen version of marital love...become lustful, vicious and selfish. So the pure instincts, once God-given, have been twisted and perverted by the ravages of sin, and the person has become sick-o.

The greater the sin, the deeper the need. So the aim is to restore the person in Christ, to have them confess their need and cry out in helplessness to God for salvation. That's for the power of the gospel.

One thing the leper doesn't need is the self-righteous ignorant contempt of the pharisee, who himself is nothing but a whited sepluchre full of dead men's bones.

Look to me and be saved, all ye ends of the earth!
 
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Not one of us could ever cure ourselves. Only God can do that for us

If someone struggled with attraction to children they can of course be cured if thats in Gods will. I think a pedophile shouldnt have to be afraid to open up to Christians about their struggles. If we close the door on them, who do they have to turn to?

God doesnt close the door on us regardless of our lustful, perverted desires. He doesnt close the door on homosexuals. If someone recognizes their sins and goes to God asking for forgiveness, and asking him to change them...well i can only pray for such a person

I do believe attraction to minors is more prevalant then most would want to believe, even in the Christian Church. These people are probably terrified to speak to anyone about it and probably have some self hatred

I can only pray that God removes that bad desire from those who cant stand living with it. But i dont believe in cancelling people

Just one more thing...to clarify. If someone has acted on their desires then thats when the law needs to be involved. But even then i would still pray for that person. I hate the behavior but not the person. Our battle is not with flesh and bones but spirits and principles
 
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how the christianity should approach the pedophile, how to cure him? (him or her)
Turn themself in to authority and get help. Restitution is part of the repenting process.
At that time the fruit will prove salvation. Be blessed.
 
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how the christianity should approach the pedophile, how to cure him? (him or her)
We should treat them as we would like to be treated when we fall. And they should not be allowed to be around their source of temptation until they are changed.
 
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Not one of us could ever cure ourselves. Only God can do that for us

If someone struggled with attraction to children they can of course be cured if thats in Gods will. I think a pedophile shouldnt have to be afraid to open up to Christians about their struggles. If we close the door on them, who do they have to turn to?

God doesnt close the door on us regardless of our lustful, perverted desires. He doesnt close the door on homosexuals. If someone recognizes their sins and goes to God asking for forgiveness, and asking him to change them...well i can only pray for such a person

I do believe attraction to minors is more prevalant then most would want to believe, even in the Christian Church. These people are probably terrified to speak to anyone about it and probably have some self hatred

I can only pray that God removes that bad desire from those who cant stand living with it. But i dont believe in cancelling people

Just one more thing...to clarify. If someone has acted on their desires then thats when the law needs to be involved. But even then i would still pray for that person. I hate the behavior but not the person. Our battle is not with flesh and bones but spirits and principles
Not one of us could ever cure ourselves. Only God can do that for us

If someone struggled with attraction to children they can of course be cured if thats in Gods will. I think a pedophile shouldnt have to be afraid to open up to Christians about their struggles. If we close the door on them, who do they have to turn to?

God doesnt close the door on us regardless of our lustful, perverted desires. He doesnt close the door on homosexuals. If someone recognizes their sins and goes to God asking for forgiveness, and asking him to change them...well i can only pray for such a person

I do believe attraction to minors is more prevalant then most would want to believe, even in the Christian Church. These people are probably terrified to speak to anyone about it and probably have some self hatred

I can only pray that God removes that bad desire from those who cant stand living with it. But i dont believe in cancelling people

Just one more thing...to clarify. If someone has acted on their desires then thats when the law needs to be involved. But even then i would still pray for that person. I hate the behavior but not the person. Our battle is not with flesh and bones but spirits and principles

I agree. I was just saying he or she has to first want to be helped. Then and only then can Christians or the Church guide them. If they are unwilling to change or believe what they are doing is right we have to cast them aside. If you let them in you risk them corrupting others. We must surround ourselves with believers and those that seek God for help.
 
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No one "just accuses" someone of a charge like that. Don't buy that defense!




You don't know my situation.

1. NO CHILDREN, period, forever.







This is none of your freaking business!! You can't tell me how to live my life!! :mad:







If someone is falsely accused and wrongly arrested and currently under investigation, then I assume the charges will ultimately be dropped when the truth is revealed.








Yeah, you would hope so. :(
 
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No one "just accuses" someone of a charge like that. Don't buy that defense!
Smart men make sure not to find themselves in such circumstances EVER with a little, innocent child.

I was in the youth ministry while I had quality help. I have always found a good rule of thumb never to find myself alone with minors of any age. At one time I was in a ministry called the Royal Rangers which was similar to the Boy Scouts and encouraged camping in the wilderness. I would not dare getting back in that ministry without the help of at least four men.
 
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I mean support to those that suffer from it, and hate their sexual orientation.

I understand. I just need to point out that there is a growing movement towards trying to make pedophilia a legal sexual "orientation" or lifestyle. And they will not stop their efforts.
 
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