Is the Day of the Lord exactly 1000 years as Premils claim?
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It has never been problematic for me. But because John does not identify this angel as Christ, we cannot call it Christ either, but it is clearly an angel who has been commissioned with the task with binding Satan to the abyss and this angel may very well be one who has frequently battled with Satan throughout history.
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No one is saying that Satan did not suffer a defeat by the death and resurrection of Christ, but it was not his final defeat. His final defeat will be when he is cast into the Lake of Fire, but if he is as bound as you say he is, then why does Paul teach that we continue to war against wicked spirits? (Eph. 6:12) Why does Peter warn us to be on the look out for Satan? (1 Pet. 5:8)
If he has not been rendered immobile and inoperative, then he has not suffered his final defeat. He will not be rendered immobile and inoperative on permanent basis until he is cast into the Lake of Fire. His power, kingship, and influence have always been limited, even before the cross. Read the book of Job.
What the cross has done is to seal Satan's eventual fate.
Satan has never at all been permitted to do anything without God allowing it before or after the death and resurrection of our Lord. Read the first two chapters of Job.
Prisons can no doubt take on both physical and spiritual forms and can manifest themselves in a variety of different ways, and all of the above can just as easily apply to literal prisons in some cases as they can to figurative. And repentance before God by those serving a prison sentence has in many cases led to to their freedom and integration back into society, but more importantly, repentance of sin by way of trust in Christ and His redemptive work frees all from Hell and the second death which are the worst prisons to ever be in existence. They are literal places from which none who die in their sins have any hope of escape.
When scripture presents itself as figurative, we accept it accordingly. When it presents itself literally, we accept it accordingly. But Amils impose symbolic and figurative interpretation upon scripture that does not bear witness that kind of an understanding.
There is nothing wrong in believing that Revelation 20 is a literal depiction of the events described therein because that is how they are all presented. If it were not so, we would be given an interpretation and we are not arguing that a spirit can be bound and still roam about like a roaring lion. The abyss and the Lake of Fire both as literal of a prison designed for Satan and any other wicked spirit and soul as it can get.
What is wrong is that Amils refuse to take the prophecy of scripture at its very word and insist on imposing a figurative interpretation not supported by the context thereof.
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Instead of the darkness decreasing, I see the darkness increasing, fierce resistance to the Gospel, and various means carried out to prevent people from coming to Christ who otherwise might, but scripture did also foretell that evil would increase before the return of Christ.
Satan and his demons can and do inhabit both nations and people. They do not have to possess a person in order to inhabit any particular place, and many still continue to be deceived by them, plus Satan had already fallen from a high and lofty place before the cross.
There is nothing general about Revelation 20. It is very specific regarding the foretold events therein.
Revelation 20 is foretelling more than that. It is foretelling the elimination Satan and his angels from this world altogether. It is in that day that the power of Satan will be no more.
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I get all of that. I'm just pointing out that when Christ returns there will be countless angels coming down from heaven at the time, yet John gives the impression that it's only one angel coming down from heaven at the time. It just seems odd to me that he notices this one lone angel coming down from heaven at the time, but doesn't have anything to say about the other billions of angels coming down from heaven at the time, this assuming the 2nd coming is in view here. And even if this is meaning a little later after the 2nd coming already occurred, there should already be plenty of angels that have come down from heaven. Why would yet another one need to come down after that? I just find it odd is all.
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If you reject the words of Christ in Matthew 25:31-46, and the words of Paul in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10, and the words of Paul in 2 Timothy 4:1, and the time of the judgment of the dead in Revelation 11:18, what else could I possibly say?
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The reason why John does not mention the other angels is because it was not relevant to the events pertaining to the Revelation chapter 20. There are already other passages of scripture which mention angels accompanying Christ when He returns which can be found in the Gospels. Not everything about the end times, or anything else for that matter, is told to us in just one passage or chapter. That is why if we want as much clarity on a matter as we possibly can receive, we need to see all that the scripture has to on that particular subject from beginning to end.
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I am not rejecting any of the cited passages, but the book of Revelation just goes to show that there is more to what is to take place in the end times than what was revealed in the passages that you appeal to, but how can you say you believe and receive all of the words of Christ when you reject the events of Revelation chapter 20 which was written by John under the direction of Christ?
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The words of Jesus explain to us what the symbols are. Like the rest of scripture, when scripture is not presented as symbolic, then it is not to be taken as symbolic but literally.
As for the time line, did you ever consider that the rest of what was written after the passage you cited is about all that has to happen before then?
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A further reason:
Revelation 20
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
The first resurrection, which raises us up from the first death, the spiritual death of our sins, to spiritual life, is the salvation experience which makes us blessed and holy:
John 5
24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
Ephesians 2
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)
6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
Ephesians 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
For those of us who experience this first resurrection, the second death, i.e. eternal punishment; no longer has any power over us, for Christ has declared that whoever believes in Him will never die (John 11:26), and Paul tells us that “death is swallowed up in victory” (1 Corinthians 15:54).
This first resurrection elevates us as spiritual kings and priests immediately upon experiencing it (Revelation 1:6, 1 Peter 2:9), and we begin our spiritual reign immediately with Christ (Romans 5:17,21; Ephesians 2:6). Believers in Christ for the past 2000 years have borne testimony to this reality. Thus 1000 years is not a literal period, but rather one of an ultimate duration known only to a God whose durations are not ours (Psalms 90:4, 2 Peter 3:8).
This is the message of Revelation 20 to all who will accept Christ's free gift of salvation; the blessings and benefits of the spiritual first resurrection are theirs to experience and enjoy for time and eternity.
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Did you ever consider the following?
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Are there Multiple Second Coming Visions in Revelation?
Christ returns at the end of Revelation chapter 6, with signs in the sun, moon, and stars, as are found in the Olivet Discourse.
Those at the end of the chapter are hiding from the wrath of the Lamb.
Why would they be hiding if Christ is not present?
The "kings", "captains", "might men", "free", and "bond" are also found in chapter 19 at the return of Christ.
He returns at the 7th trumpet, which is the last trumpet in the Bible, and the time of the judgment of the dead in Revelation 11:15-18.
The beginning of chapter 12 is a history lesson containing the fall of Satan, and the birth and death of Christ, who is the seed promised to crush the head of Satan in Genesis 3:15.
The Second Coming is found in the "harvest" of chapter 14, which is related to the parable of the wheat and tares in Matthew chapter 13.
He comes as a thief at Armageddon, and we find the greatest earthquake in history in chapter 16. This occurs when the 7th angel pours out his vial. How powerful is an earthquake which moves islands and destroys the mountains? What is happening to the planet?
He comes on a horse in chapter 19.
He comes with the fire, and the judgment of the dead at the end of chapter 20, which agrees with what Paul said in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10, and 2 Timothy 4:1.
(The time of the judgment of the dead is also found in Revelation 11:18.)
There are no mortals left alive on the planet at the end of Matthew 25:31-46.
Revelation 9:14 proves some of the angels have already been bound in some manner.
Because the two witnesses were bodily resurrected from the dead in Revelation 11, the "first resurrection" at the beginning of Revelation 20 is not the first bodily resurrection in the book.
The only way to properly interpret the book is through the principle of "Recapitulation".
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But the majority of chapter 12 is still future. We are simply taken back into the past briefly to understand what is to happen in the future.
Not according to Revelation 19:15. The Anti-Christ and his armies appear ready to meet him. In Revelation 17:12-14, it is already in his heart and mind to make war with Christ. It would seem as though they are expecting His return.
It was a resurrection, but it was not the first resurrection. To say that the resurrection of the two witnesses after they are to be killed is the resurrection would be like saying that the raising up of Eutychus (Acts 20:9-10), assuming that his fall from the high window killed him, and Dorcas (Acts 9:36-40) were the first resurrection even though nearly every other person of the faith who has died still remains in their grave.
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Is it at all possible that "The Day of The Lord" is a day that happens once for a specific season, but happens the same on other occasions in separate seasons? Maybe I have misunderstood Scripture, but, that could be possible, no?
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While Satan is restrained from deceiving the Gentiles any more, and is unable to thwart the great commission, he will be given a short season at the end to do havoc. He will be banished to the Lake of Fire forever at the second coming.
It is absurd to think that Satan is going to have another day after this age on the next earth (near the end of some supposed 1000 years reign) and recruit billion of followers from a millennial earth to surround Christ and the saints in their glorified bodies. That in my opinion is pure fiction.
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Sadly, Premils are always trying to dilute the impact of the First Advent through His sinless life, His atoning death and His glorious resurrection.
You are just voicing your opinion and missing the whole genre of Revelation and particularly Revelation 20.
This is all personal opinion that ignores the highly symbolic setting of this chapter, the obvious figurative language and repeated teaching other Scripture.
How can the devil be bound, when 1 Peter 5:8 warns: “Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour”?
- Firstly, the binding of Satan is spiritual. Satan is not human and physical. He is a spirit. A spirit cannot be held by physical restraints. What is more, he is not in a physical prison or is he restrained by metal chains.
- Secondly, the binding does not suggest our enemy must be motionless or does it describe inactivity. Prisoners have movement in a prison albeit in a limited capacity, under strict rules and within controlled confines.
- Thirdly, Revelation 20 does not suggest that the devil is unable to inflict harm on anyone while bound. Everyone knows that a prisoner can perpetrate all types of crimes within the prison precincts.
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Amil, post trib theology does not even view this as a literal death. It is just symbolic of death. It has to be literal death, but the soul does not leave the body. But how to prove otherwise? First, they were not buried. Secondly it never says the soul left the body. Those who think the soul neither goes to sheol, nor present with Christ in Paradise, but only sleeps in the dead corpse, is not taught any where. Even catholics and orthodox claim the spirit leaves the body. Is that not the soul that leaves the body? A Resurrection is the soul obtaining a new incorruptible body.
That is explained by Paul in many places. 2 Corinthians 5 clearly states that we have a body with the Lord (Adonai) in opposition to this body of flesh and blood. This is a modified version of waiting for the incorruptible body until the last day. The soul is joined with this heavenly body upon death. The soul does not sleep in death, for death was conquered for those in Christ. Nor does the spirit split from the soul and leave the soul behind. The spirit is just the term used instead of the soul. It is a false pagan view, but what can you do when the church carries over pagan terms when it plays the harlot?
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Exactly, evil is increasing before the return of Christ, as Rev 20 states. Satan will have a season just before the return of Christ where restraint will be removed. We are either there or getting there.
Again, all your opinion with zero supporting text.
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Rev 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
Rev 16:16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
Rev 16:17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
Rev 16:18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.
Rev 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
Rev 16:20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.
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