How Do You Respond to Atheists?

April_Rose said:

Who question you on how you base your beliefs on faith and not actual facts? Cause I'm having that problem in another topic and I feel like I'm not a strong Christian when they tell me that I'm basing my faith on a bunch of lies and I can go to the library and find out they're right and my faith feels so weak. I love Jesus and I want to have strong faith in Him,.. but it's making me question and doubt myself of the possibility that they might be right and I'm scared of losing my salvation again.

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I have found that there are atheists that will challenge you on your faith and those that don't care enough or are so ignorant of biblical views that they never say boo.

It's usually the ones that are argumentative and aggressive in trying to prove you wrong.. that I find are actually concerned, worried, and questioning their own view.

They are not so much attacking you and your view.. but are being spiritually challenged in their life and fighting their own conflict.

Humans, IMO, only argue about things that really concern them. Well, I don't waste my breath on things that I have no interest in.. Most atheists won't even care what you believe... they are just happy in their belief and allow you to be happy in yours... It is of no concern to them.

But... take a non believer who is in your face, aggressive and argumentative.. like they are offended that you believe what you do.... now.. there is someone who is more than an atheist... They are personally fighting the battle of their heart.

Friends of my family are strong Christians. One son is a solid believer. The other son is very argumentative in trying to prove that there is no God.

I have found it much easier to convince someone who doesn't believe in God.. that there is a God..

Than.

Trying to argue with someone who knows there is a God... who is trying to convince themselves that there is not.

April_Rose said:

Who question you on how you base your beliefs on faith and not actual facts? Cause I'm having that problem in another topic and I feel like I'm not a strong Christian when they tell me that I'm basing my faith on a bunch of lies and I can go to the library and find out they're right and my faith feels so weak. I love Jesus and I want to have strong faith in Him,.. but it's making me question and doubt myself of the possibility that they might be right and I'm scared of losing my salvation again.

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Let me ask you ... about your salvation ... How do you find what you cannot see or lose what you cannot keep?

The atheist and the Chriistian (found in the language of Bible), fall into the same pit.

April_Rose said:

Who question you on how you base your beliefs on faith and not actual facts? Cause I'm having that problem in another topic and I feel like I'm not a strong Christian when they tell me that I'm basing my faith on a bunch of lies and I can go to the library and find out they're right and my faith feels so weak. I love Jesus and I want to have strong faith in Him,.. but it's making me question and doubt myself of the possibility that they might be right and I'm scared of losing my salvation again.

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The atheists are those brainwashed by the long years of education since childhood. They don't know what they are doing.

2 Corinthians 4:4 (NIV2011)
The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.


What is a truth?

A truth is an objective existence which humans mostly rely on the testimonies from those (an extremely small amount of eyewitnesses) having a direct contact with this truth to get to, while humans themselves failed to realize that it is so.

Isaiah 6:9 (NIV2011)
He said, “Go and tell this people: “ ‘Be ever hearing, but never understanding; be ever seeing, but never perceiving.’


The most typical is ancient history. History is made of testimonies from the supposed eyewitnesses gathered by a historian. That's why history = his story.

Even science is working in a similar fashion. A science is conveyed in a form of testimonies from our scientists professed in a particular field (an extremely small amount relying on expensive and rare equipment to get to a truth directly) gathered by our education and media for the truth to be made known to the public.

In this process, human faith is a must for a truth to convey. Humans themselves failed to realize that a truth is so conveyed. However it is explicitly displayed through the whole Bible.

That said. Humans don't have the ability to reach a future. We can only get to a future truth if a God exists to tell us. Christianity is all about a truth God tells us by means of human testimonies from the eyewitnesses (in OT we call them the prophets).

April_Rose said:

Who question you on how you base your beliefs on faith and not actual facts? Cause I'm having that problem in another topic and I feel like I'm not a strong Christian when they tell me that I'm basing my faith on a bunch of lies and I can go to the library and find out they're right and my faith feels so weak. I love Jesus and I want to have strong faith in Him,.. but it's making me question and doubt myself of the possibility that they might be right and I'm scared of losing my salvation again.

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When the time comes, I can’t imagine anyone not calling on The Name of The Lord.
Acts.2 Verses 19 to 21

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   [19] And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
   [20] The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:
   [21] And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

April_Rose said:

Who question you on how you base your beliefs on faith and not actual facts? Cause I'm having that problem in another topic and I feel like I'm not a strong Christian when they tell me that I'm basing my faith on a bunch of lies and I can go to the library and find out they're right and my faith feels so weak. I love Jesus and I want to have strong faith in Him,.. but it's making me question and doubt myself of the possibility that they might be right and I'm scared of losing my salvation again.

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Confidence comes from knowing who God is --not from setting the facts right that Atheists proffer. Probably my favorite thought, that gives me the most confidence, is two-fold: 1. Knowing God logically must exist --that it makes more sense for him to exist than even for me to exist (yet here I am), and 2. Knowing that God is doing all this for his own sake, not just out of goodness to his creation.

April_Rose said:

Who question you on how you base your beliefs on faith and not actual facts? Cause I'm having that problem in another topic and I feel like I'm not a strong Christian when they tell me that I'm basing my faith on a bunch of lies and I can go to the library and find out they're right and my faith feels so weak. I love Jesus and I want to have strong faith in Him,..

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Faith in God is not blind.......It contains substance and evidence. I would encourage you to pursue this substance and evidence before speaking to others about what you have "found."

April_Rose said:

but it's making me question and doubt myself of the possibility that they might be right and I'm scared of losing my salvation again.

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Not to worry, if they are right, you wont have any salvation to lose.

April_Rose said:

Not sure what you mean here.

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The pivotal truth for all mankind is perception which is just one more word that refers to what our soul affords us. In one place it is likened to a city, in another a mountain, and in another a pit (among other things) ...

I find that a Christian can be just as snared as any atheist through the same means by which they name themselves.

April_Rose said:

Who question you on how you base your beliefs on faith and not actual facts? Cause I'm having that problem in another topic and I feel like I'm not a strong Christian when they tell me that I'm basing my faith on a bunch of lies and I can go to the library and find out they're right and my faith feels so weak. I love Jesus and I want to have strong faith in Him,.. but it's making me question and doubt myself of the possibility that they might be right and I'm scared of losing my salvation again.

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To worship in spirit and in Truth requires us to be born again and taught directly by The GodHead. Until that happens, all anyone can hope to do is try to live an obedient life by reading The Word.

April_Rose said:

Not sure how that answers my question but I at least understand it.

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It is supposed to answer every question by every professing Christian. It is every answer because you are taught directly by The GodHead.

April_Rose said:

Who question you on how you base your beliefs on faith and not actual facts? Cause I'm having that problem in another topic and I feel like I'm not a strong Christian when they tell me that I'm basing my faith on a bunch of lies and I can go to the library and find out they're right and my faith feels so weak. I love Jesus and I want to have strong faith in Him,.. but it's making me question and doubt myself of the possibility that they might be right and I'm scared of losing my salvation again.

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Just one question? Do these atheists really know if their father is real biological father? They don’t go for a DNA test to confirm this but I’m sure they still believe their father is a biological father. This is called faith. We have also had faith in our lord. Our faith is our proof. We are sure that the father whom we are worshipping is heavenly father who is ruling earth and heavens.

April_Rose said:

Actually their argument is that scientists actually have discovered it so it has to be true. Haven't scientists also discovered Noah's Ark though and a bunch of other biblical relics?

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Yes, there is a book called the Bible as History by Werner Keller which looks at the archeological evidence for the Bible.

April_Rose said:

Who question you on how you base your beliefs on faith and not actual facts? Cause I'm having that problem in another topic and I feel like I'm not a strong Christian when they tell me that I'm basing my faith on a bunch of lies and I can go to the library and find out they're right and my faith feels so weak. I love Jesus and I want to have strong faith in Him,.. but it's making me question and doubt myself of the possibility that they might be right and I'm scared of losing my salvation again.

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Intelligent design makes a very strong case for God’s existence. Just because it can’t be proven doesn’t mean it isn’t a fact. 1,000 years ago people believed the earth was flat. If someone told these people that the earth is actually a sphere they’d laugh and say your crazy because they didn’t understand how gravity works on the earth. They’d argue that if the earth is a sphere everything would fall off the bottom side of the planet. Their lack of information led to their incorrect theory. The same situation can very well be happening today with the subject of creation. Scientists are actually divided on the subject so it just depends on who you talk to as far as what the data actually shows. So just because something can’t be proven or there’s conflicting evidence it doesn’t mean it’s fact. The people who believed the earth was flat were using observational data to come to their conclusion but they didn’t have the missing data that proved them wrong at that time. So just like today there very well could be missing data that we don’t have that would prove atheists wrong. Personally I think it’s God’s will that no one will be able to prove His existence beyond any reasonable doubt. The thing to keep in mind is you don’t need proof to believe you just need sufficient evidence to base your theory and there’s ample amounts of evidence all around us if we actually take into consideration everything that is necessary for life to exist on this planet as it does today. For all of the necessary components to come together so perfectly the odds are overwhelmingly improbable.

April_Rose said:

Who question you on how you base your beliefs on faith and not actual facts? Cause I'm having that problem in another topic and I feel like I'm not a strong Christian when they tell me that I'm basing my faith on a bunch of lies and I can go to the library and find out they're right and my faith feels so weak. I love Jesus and I want to have strong faith in Him,.. but it's making me question and doubt myself of the possibility that they might be right and I'm scared of losing my salvation again.

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I apologize for not addressing your specific issues in my original response. The Truth has been trampled on and maligned. The so-called areas that someone is trying to convince you are truths that take away from Biblical Truths is false. However, since only The GodHead can open your eyes and ears to See and Hear The Truth, all you can do is trust that The GodHead Will only ever Tell you The Truth. The enemy is working to deceive the world. Christ is the only hope anyone has.

April_Rose said:

Who question you on how you base your beliefs on faith and not actual facts? Cause I'm having that problem in another topic and I feel like I'm not a strong Christian when they tell me that I'm basing my faith on a bunch of lies and I can go to the library and find out they're right and my faith feels so weak. I love Jesus and I want to have strong faith in Him,.. but it's making me question and doubt myself of the possibility that they might be right and I'm scared of losing my salvation again.

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Look up apologetics. I can think of two straight away: William Lane Craig and Lennox Lewis. Maybe someone else can point to others. There are lots of books written on the subject, you also have debates on youtube.

Edit: John Lennox ... Lennox Lewis is a boxer

April_Rose said:

Who question you on how you base your beliefs on faith and not actual facts? Cause I'm having that problem in another topic and I feel like I'm not a strong Christian when they tell me that I'm basing my faith on a bunch of lies and I can go to the library and find out they're right and my faith feels so weak. I love Jesus and I want to have strong faith in Him,.. but it's making me question and doubt myself of the possibility that they might be right and I'm scared of losing my salvation again.

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Did you get this answered well? --

Here's the best answer of the strong foundation for faith! (because it's from our Lord!) --

Build Your House on the Rock

24 “Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock. 26 And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. 27 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was the fall of it.”
Matthew 7 ESV


As you can see, if we believe we should listen to His words (in the gospels, spoken for us to listen to) and then do as He says to us to do.

If we do as He says, we will endure.

If we don't do as He says to us to do, then we will fall and it will be destruction.

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While I've written thousands (not hundreds, but many thousands) of posts trying to help atheists get past false beliefs, the real way to salvation is only through Jesus Christ, and the Word of Christ. Our arguing doesn't help much. Being friendly though and then telling them the gospel Good News -- that can actually help.