Dispensational division of the 10 tribes in Spiritual Israel

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The answer is in the plans and purposes of God. He knows who His people are. Amos 9:9

He, and you, know who His People are, keras. Acts 10:34,35

Their physical DNA is irrelevant.

Only their spiritual DNA counts.

Two genes.

Faith and obedience.

Nothing else.
 
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He, and you, know who His People are, keras. Acts 10:34,35

Their physical DNA is irrelevant.

Only their spiritual DNA counts.

Two genes.

Faith and obedience.

Nothing else.
Sure; God's people must have those attributes.
But in order for the Promises of God to the Patriarchs to be fulfilled, the greatest proportion of them must be their actual descendants.

That is why Jesus came; to save the lost tribes of Israel. The known tribe of Judah rejected and killed Him, but hidden Israel, still scattered around the world, have accepted the Gospel and they are now the true Israelites of God.
That is why the description of them, as they all praise the Lord in Jerusalem, is; people from every tribe, race, nation and language. Revelation 7:9
 
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But in order for the Promises of God to the Patriarchs to be fulfilled, the greatest proportion of them must be their actual descendants.

No Scripture exists.

The promises are God are fulfilled in Christ. (2 Corinthians 1:20; Galatians 3:16)

That is why Jesus came; to save the lost tribes of Israel.

John 1
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

hidden Israel, still scattered around the world, have accepted the Gospel and they are now the true Israelites of God.

Their DNA is ubiquitous, thus they are not hidden; only the believing remnant has accepted the Gospel; and the only true Israelites of God are His redeemed saints of His Church from every nation.
 
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The promises are God are fulfilled in Christ. (2 Corinthians 1:20; Galatians 3:16)
You know that I do agree with this, and that the true Israelites of God are all the born again faithful Christian peoples.
But it isn't all of the story, as many prophecies tell us that the Lord will re-gather the people who He originally chose. John 7:35, Isaiah 11:11-12, Acts 26:6-7, and Ezekiel 4:4-5 plainly states the exile of Israel is for a decreed period.
I suggest that we leave this subject, as it is impossible for us at present to unravel this mystery of God. All will be revealed soon.
 
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But it isn't all of the story, as many prophecies tell us that the Lord will re-gather the people who He originally chose.

What are their distinguishing identifying characteristics?

I suggest that we leave this subject, as it is impossible for us at present to unravel this mystery of God.

There is nothing impossible or mysterious about faith and obedience. It is Scripture from beginning to end.
 
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What are their distinguishing identifying characteristics?
They will all be faithful Christians, the ones Jesus came to save.

Did you bother to look up the prophesies I provided?
They are quite specific about the Israelite ancestry of those people. This fact can't be just glossed over and if it isn't the case that God intends to redeem those He chose, then God has made a mistake.
Do you agree with that?
 
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They will all be faithful Christians, the ones Jesus came to save.

Did you bother to look up the prophesies I provided?
They are quite specific about the Israelite ancestry of those people. This fact can't be just glossed over and if it isn't the case that God intends to redeem those He chose, then God has made a mistake.
Do you agree with that?

From its birth and throughout its existence, Israel was comprised of both descendants and non-descendants of Abraham (Genesis 17:12;Exodus 12:48;Exodus 12:49;Leviticus 19:34;Leviticus 24:22).

Those God chose were the faithful obedient remnant within the nation irrespective of their ancestry.

Ancestry has ever and always been irrelevant. You've affirmed that in other posts.

Why not here?
 
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The ten lost tribes were still identifiable around 100AD

The prominent Jewish historian Josephus notes that while the tribes of Judah and Benjamin, joined by the Levites, were still located in “Asia” (a term that typically included Palestine), “the ten tribes are beyond [the] Euphrates till now [when he wrote, about 100 AD], and are an immense multitude….”3 This indicates that the whereabouts of the northern tribes were known in Josephus’ time.
How about no longer Jew or Gentile?
 
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Ancestry has ever and always been irrelevant. You've affirmed that in other posts.
No. I say ethnicity is not critical for Salvation.
God did choose Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. It will be their actual descendants, the ones God has kept track of, Amos 9:8-9, who will be the majority of the new nation of Beulah in all of the holy Land.
This can be proved by how each of the 12 tribes received the Blessings prophesied by Jacob and Moses. They enable us to figure out which nations they are today.

Although the Gospel is for all who will receive it, Jesus did come specifically to save the lost tribes of Israel. Matthew 15:25
He was successful and we Western Christians are the result.
WE are His true Israelite people.
 
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I say ethnicity is not critical for Salvation. God did choose Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. It will be their actual descendants

Ethnicity is irrelevant for salvation. That is indisputable from the Scriptures I've cited.

He chose them because they were faithful and obedient.

Their DNA is present in every person on earth, thus every person on earth is their actual descendant.
 
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Ethnicity is irrelevant for salvation. That is indisputable from the Scriptures I've cited.

He chose them because they were faithful and obedient.

Their DNA is present in every person on earth, thus every person on earth is their actual descendant.
So you simply reject every prophecy that specifies Israel and Judah, as the people the Lord will gather into the holy Land? Deuteronomy 30:1-20, Isaiah 11:11-12, Jeremiah 31:7-14, Ezekiel 11:16-17, Hosea 11:1-11, +

There will be many millions of the Lord's faithful Christian peoples who will come to live in all of the holy land, Micah 7:11, Isaiah 54:2-3, from every tribe, race and nation, just as the lost tribes are at present.
 
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So you simply reject every prophecy that specifies Israel and Judah, as the people the Lord will gather into the holy Land? Deuteronomy 30:1-20, Isaiah 11:11-12, Jeremiah 31:7-14, Ezekiel 11:16-17, Hosea 11:1-11, +

There will be many millions of the Lord's faithful Christian peoples who will come to live in all of the holy land, Micah 7:11, Isaiah 54:2-3, from every tribe, race and nation, just as the lost tribes are at present.

So you simply reject that Israel and Judah are genetically every person on earth?

So you simply reject that the spiritual DNA of faith and obedience are God's only covenant qualifications?
 
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So you simply reject that Israel and Judah are genetically every person on earth?

So you simply reject that the spiritual DNA of faith and obedience are God's only covenant qualifications?
No, that is mathematically proven. Faith and obedience are a given.
But there is something else to it, there has to be, or the Bible story of the final redemption of Judah and Israel is a fable.
 
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No, that is mathematically proven. Faith and obedience are a given.
But there is something else to it, there has to be, or the Bible story of the final redemption of Judah and Israel is a fable.

If "faith and obedience are a given" (totally true), then the final redemption of the faithful obedient believing remnant of Judah and Israel is no fable.

What is the "something else"?
 
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If "faith and obedience are a given" (totally true), then the final redemption of the faithful obedient believing remnant of Judah and Israel is no fable.

What is the "something else"?
That is God's secret. His Plan for the people He originally chose. The people who are at present still in the exile He decreed for them. Ezekiel 4:4-6
 
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That is God's secret. His Plan for the people He originally chose. The people who are at present still in the exile He decreed for them. Ezekiel 4:4-6

There's only iniquity in those verses.

You believe that somewhere in those verses is a portion of the faithful obedient believing remnant?
 
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There's only iniquity in those verses.

You believe that somewhere in those verses is a portion of the faithful obedient believing remnant?
Ezekiel 4:4-6 give a specified period that Israel; the ten Northern tribes and Judah; the Jewish people, are to serve in exile.
I have a fair idea of where the 390 and the 40 years fit into history and are completed in the end times.
But the point is; their exile is not forever, the Lord does promise to bring them back. Their descendants, that is.

Ezekiel 20:34-38 says the Lord will do this and that He will judge them and only the righteous will be allowed to go into the holy land. Isaiah 35
These are Bible truths, plainly stated and undeniable.
 
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What distinguishing characteristics would identify them?
How would I know what identified the ten tribes back in the days of Josephus?
What matters is that their whereabouts were commonly known at the time of Jesus and afterwards.
 
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How would I know what identified the ten tribes back in the days of Josephus?
What matters is that their whereabouts were commonly known at the time of Jesus and afterwards.
Who are the ten lost tribes of Israel?
Simple; they are the Christian peoples. The ones Jesus came to save. Matthew 15:24
They are not all Christian, those who revolt and rebel, Ezekiel 20:34-38, will not be allowed to live in the holy Land. Isaiah 35:8-10
 
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