Did Yeshua consider the "Book of Enoch" scripture?

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Jude 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, 15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

As stated Jude was quoting Enoch 1:9

Enoch 1:9 And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones To execute judgement upon all, And to destroy all the ungodly: And to convict all flesh
Of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed,
And of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.

If this wasn't proof enough to the testimony of the Book of Enoch, then you must consider the passage in Mathew 22:29-30 where Yeshua in a back handed way called the Book of Enoch Scripture. This passage ironically is the one verse most often used against the Book.

Matthew 22:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

Notice that Yeshua rebuked the Sadduccees for not knowing the Scriptures. Then in Mathew 22:30 He taught that Angel's of Heaven do not marry (it was Angel's of the Earth that left their first estate) The teaching that Angel's do not marry is not found anywhere in the Old Testament and can only be found in the Book of Enoch. Thus Yeshua was saying that the Sadduccees are in error for not knowing the Scriptures being the Book of Enoch

Enoch 15:4 And though ye were holy, spiritual, living the eternal life, you have defiled yourselves with the blood of women, and have begotten children with the blood of flesh, and, as the children of men, have lusted after flesh and blood as those also do who die and perish. 5 Therefore have I given them wives also that they might impregnate them, and beget children by them, that thus nothing might be wanting to them on earth. 6 But you were formerly spiritual, living the eternal life, and immortal for all generations of the world. 7And therefore I have not appointed wives for you; for as for the spiritual ones (Angel's) of the heaven, in heaven is their dwelling.

Enoch also prophesied that the Book would be preserved for a later generation that is to come. We are this generation who would most benefit from the words contained therein.

Enoch 1:1 The words of the blessing of Enoch, wherewith he blessed the elect and righteous, who will be living in the day of tribulation

This history was also prophesied in Enoch 104:10-13 and Enoch 105:1
 

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If this wasn't proof enough to the testimony of the Book of Enoch, then you must consider the passage in Mathew 22:29-30 where Yeshua in a back handed way called the Book of Enoch Scripture. This passage ironically is the one verse most often used against the Book.

Matthew 22:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

Notice that Yeshua rebuked the Sadduccees for not knowing the Scriptures. Then in Mathew 22:30 He taught that Angel's of Heaven do not marry (it was Angel's of the Earth that left their first estate) The teaching that Angel's do not marry is not found anywhere in the Old Testament and can only be found in the Book of Enoch. Thus Yeshua was saying that the Sadduccees are in error for not knowing the Scriptures being the Book of Enoch
Given that Exodus 3:6 is then cited in Matthew 22:31, which comes immediately afterwards, it seems far more plausible to believe that the scriptures being referred to was that. When we have a scripture quoted right there, does it not make more sense to believe that what the "scriptures" in Matthew 22:29 were in reference to, rather than what would be (at best) a paraphrase?

Let's also back up and look at the passage in greater context. The Sadducees deny that there is a Resurrection. Now, because they do not believe in the Resurrection, any answer to their question other than "it doesn't matter because there is no Resurrection" would be worthless to them. It would be like a Protestant going up to a Catholic priest and asking them whether theft or adultery would warrant more time in Purgatory--outside of perhaps curiosity as to what someone else believes, the answer they receive would be irrelevant to them, as they don't believe in Purgatory to begin with.

So if the entire question rested on a basis that the Sadducees rejected, why did they ask the question? Much like the Pharisees just before them (Matthew 22:15-22), it was an attempt at stumping someone by giving a difficult-to-answer question and hoping they are unable to answer it.

So what is the response to this "stumper"? First, they are admonished for being in error due to not knowing the scriptures, in reference to their rejection of the Resurrection. Then, because the question is a sensible one (even if their motives for asking it are impure), the question is answered. Finally, as a confirmation of their scripture-related error in regards to the Resurrection, Exodus 3:6 is cited.

I feel the natural reading is that the reference to them not knowing the scriptures is in preparation for the Exodus 3:6 citation, and that trying to claim it's a reference to Enoch is unwarranted and speculative. Especially given that even Enoch does not actually give the answer to the question. Enoch does state that the angels in heaven do not have wives, but says nothing about whether this is true for humans after the Resurrection.
 
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JS: Where did you read the book of Enoch and how can one prove its a valid interpretation? Could it be the valid interpretations were all lost when the Canon was complied? Could this but why the Torah and later modern Scriptures failed to include the book? And might it have been more recently copy among the documents of the Dead Sea Scrolls?

It would be interesting to understand why this book never found its way into the canon of Judah version of the Torah or the Churches Sacred Scriptures.
 
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The Epistle of Barnabas, young Origen, Clement of Alexandria, and Tertullian all considered 1 Enoch to be Scripture. Tertullian wrote in "Concerning The Genuineness Of 'The Prophecy Of Enoch,' I am aware that the Scripture of Enoch, which has assigned this order (of action) to angels, is not received by some, because it is not admitted into the Jewish canon either…But since Enoch in the same Scripture has preached likewise concerning the Lord, nothing at all must be rejected by us which pertains to us; and we read that 'every Scripture suitable for edification is divinely inspired.'…To these considerations is added the fact that Enoch possesses a testimony in the Apostle Jude." [Tertullian, "On the Apparel of Women,"in The Ante-Nicene Fathers: Fathers of the Third Century: Tertullian, Part Fourth; Minucius Felix; Commodian; Origen, Parts First and Second, ed. Alexander Roberts, James Donaldson, and A. Cleveland Coxe, trans. S. Thelwall, vol. 4 (Buffalo, NY: Christian Literature Company, 1885), Is Enoch Scripture?
 
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Just found some free versions of this book and dowloaded them all to check interpretations variance. I also found why Judah rejects this book, and why it did not find its way into the canon. It was not because the Roman Church likely felt the book evil, but that it only existed back then in completion in Ethiopia and the church headed West first. Still, thank you for your help. It will take time to go through it all and I may see why both bodies Jewish and Christian have not recovered this book even today.

It may be as the rabbis assert, not Sacred Scripture, but maybe "worthy of belief" or each must judge this based upon how the Holy Spirit leads them.

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Just found some free versions of this book and dowloaded them all to check interpretations variance. I also found why Judah rejects this book, and why it did not find its way into the canon. It was not because the Roman Church likely felt the book evil, but that it only existed back then in completion in Ethiopia and the church headed West first. Still, thank you for your help. It will take time to go through it all and I may see why both bodies Jewish and Christian have not recovered this book even today.

It may be as the rabbis assert, not Sacred Scripture, but maybe "worthy of belief" or each must judge this based upon how the Holy Spirit leads them.

Shalom
I think some things are not meant to be understood or appreciate until it is time. We are entering into that time where it helps complete the picture. It answers a lot of unanswered questions. Helps connect the dots and for me it has been a step in the right direction.
 
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I think some things are not meant to be understood or appreciate until it is time. We are entering into that time where it helps complete the picture. It answers a lot of unanswered questions. Helps connect the dots and for me it has been a step in the right direction.

I down loaded several copies and are going through each one at a time. I admit the Niphalim being spawn by angles is controversial though not impossible, perhaps. That's if angles can procreate.

As for the rest, I still making heads and tales of what correctly interpreted and what human error. I used to checking back at the original language when confused or doubtful but here I can't, I don't know Ethiopian. Checking interpretations in turn is tough, they each order the text differently. Also I am checking this book against the words of the prophets.

So it will be some time before I can come back and really discussed the end times predictions.
 
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I down loaded several copies and are going through each one at a time. I admit the Niphalim being spawn by angles is controversial though not impossible, perhaps. That's if angles can procreate.

As for the rest, I still making heads and tales of what correctly interpreted and what human error. I used to checking back at the original language when confused or doubtful but here I can't, I don't know Ethiopian. Checking interpretations in turn is tough, they each order the text differently. Also I am checking this book against the words of the prophets.

So it will be some time before I can come back and really discussed the end times predictions.
Check out any Satanic camp and you will find that sex with the devil is part of the program. You will also find the belief that if the devil's seed can propagate with human, then they will have the king they will worship.

Noah was righteous. It is believed that he was one of the few left with "pure" seed.. aka was not contaminated with evil angel's seed.
 
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