Pelosi giving Biden an 'escape hatch'?

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Seems legit..

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I started to wonder earlier, if you climb Mount Everest and place a few stones at the summit, can you claim you’ve created the world’s highest mountain?
And if you use the S&P 500 to represent the economy can you claim to know what you are talking about (as any Econ 101 student knows the difference)? I have serious doubts........
 
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And that's a serious issue with a candidate, when you can't even trust him to freely speak to the voting public...

I consider that the most dangerous potential president in American history...
Well yeah we're seeing it in action with Trump and it's awful. But his voters have so severely downgraded their expectations that it doesn't matter anymore. Biden voter expectations are just a little higher. And that's why he has more to lose.
 
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Seems legit..

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I started to wonder earlier, if you climb Mount Everest and place a few stones at the summit, can you claim you’ve created the world’s highest mountain?

I didn't know the black community was heavily in the S&P 500, or that it represented black unemployment figures.
 
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No. As the article pointed out it is historically inaccurate.

Just one more notch.......

No, the FOX News article makes it seem like there is an absolute fact that Edison was the first. He may well have been, but as with many of the inventions from that period there are serious question marks about who was actually first. It’s the same with the telephone. Serious historians will not declare one person was the ‘first’ as at that time there were a number of people pushing in the same direction towards the same goals and often using each other’s work.

Biden was wrong to suggest Latimer was definitely first, but it’s equally wrong to claim Edison definitely was.
 
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No, the FOX News article makes it seem like there is an absolute fact that Edison was the first. He may well have been, but as with many of the inventions from that period there are serious question marks about who was actually first. It’s the same with the telephone. Serious historians will not declare one person was the ‘first’ as at that time there were a number of people pushing in the same direction towards the same goals and often using each other’s work.
Sorry, history disagrees with you.......
 
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No it really doesn’t. If you think it does, then you’re not a historian.

From what I see (and I'm not a historian), claiming Edison was the "inventor" of the light bulb is like saying that Ford is the "inventor" of the car. From what I know of the history, the first electric light was invented around 1802, with various improvements to it throughout the 19th century by various others. What Edison did was try to find a way to make the electric lightbulb, which was already invented, to be marketable and profitable by building and seeking improvements to the work already done -- and he does appear to be the first to make the lightbulb profitable. This is more like Ford, who was not the "inventor" of the automobile, instead he invented an assembly line that made mass production of the automobile profitable.
 
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the first electric light was invented around 1802,
How was it powered?
with various improvements to it throughout the 19th century by various others.
Such as?
What Edison did was try to find a way to make the electric lightbulb, which was already invented, to be marketable and profitable by building and seeking improvements to the work already done -- and he does appear to be the first to make the lightbulb profitable.
And how did he do that?
Never depend on wiki to answer all questions......
 
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claiming Edison was the "inventor" of the light bulb is like saying that Ford is the "inventor" of the car.
BTW......No one claims Ford invented cars....not even neophyte 'historians'......
 
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Never have claimed to be.....but I know history, especially American history....and you, my friend, do not.

Well despite your username you keep making that statement seem more and more unlikely to be frank.
 
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BTW......No one claims Ford invented cars....not even neophyte 'historians'......

Which is why I used it as my example of how Edison was not the inventor of the light bulb. Yes, both made improvements that made it affordable for the masses. Just in Ford's case, people realize he didn't invent the car but we are taught a fiction with Edison, as electric light, including bulbs, had been invented for decades prior to Edison "inventing" it.
 
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How was it powered?

Such as?

And how did he do that?
Never depend on wiki to answer all questions......

I'd give you the same advice. Yes, 1802 was not technically a light bulb, but Humphry Davy created light from passing an electric current through a piece of carbon. In 1840 was, as I recall, the first use of glass vacuum tubes. You could argue it was only in 1860 that there was a first "light bulb" as it was the first to use an enclosed glass bulb using paper filaments to pass the current through, and later a cotton thread. In 1874, Henry Woodward and Mathew Evans patented an incandescent light bulb in Canada in 1874 (five years prior to Edison).

Edison obviously improved on the work of those that went before, specifically working on finding the best substance to pass a current through to create light. Carbon burned too bright and burnt too fast, platinum was too expensive, and it was not feasible at the time to vacuum the gas out of the bulb to produce them. What Edison did is to play with the substance "burned" by the electric current that provided a good amount of light and that would last for hours, enough to be commercially viable.
 
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1. Nancy Pelosi has the integrity and intelligence of a kumquat. She is power drunk and has made hundreds of millions of dollars off the public. She had to bribe her way into the Speakers position, (promising she wouldn't run again), and I think is terrified of the thought of Biden with Trump both unscripted.

2. Biden appears to have a continuing issue with even softball questions and teleprompters. Leaving him looking weak and feckless at best.

3. The Speak might think she has the power to stop the debates (part of power drunk), but she does not.
 
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