What do you do if you're stuck in willful habitual sin?

Neostarwcc · Aug 30, 2020

I'm really getting sick of living in the same darned wiful sins each and everyday. I am completely living in sin and there probably isn't hope for me.

I know, welcome to being human we sin everyday. But my convictions are mainly because it is the SAME sins that I am living in each and everyday. Using the Lord's name in vain in the worst possible ways, arguing with my wife nearly everyday about the most pointless crap possible it isn't just me that's sick b the arguing we argue so much that often times we argue in front of my parents and they're EXTREMELY sick of hearing it from us. Even if they often think I'm the person in the right of the argument. I'm an extremely angry person with an extreme tendency to be a pathological liar. I tell at least two lies each and everyday I think nothing of it because I'm schizophrenic and all schizophrencs are pathological liars but... still. You can't convince me that all of these sins are taken care of and blood bought and that I can keep living in them until the day I die and still be covered. That is not true, the Bible says the very opposite. I know for a 100% fact that I have the Holy Spirit and that im a regenerated child of God because I never uld have even come to God in the first place if it weren't for my regeneration. I never would feel guilty for my sins and like complete crap after each and every time I sin.

Its like God has set me completely free from certain sins but its like my most common sins im going to be stuck in living in until the day I die. I have not made any spiritual progress in the path of God in months. God has stopped working on me. Probaby because he's given up on me because of all the willful living in sin I do. Sometimes I'll even plan to commit sin. Like recently my surgery that's going on Tuesday. I planned for over a week that even if i was ready for my surgery Monday I would call them sand say that I was not. I didn't way to go enjoy that i was planning to lie to get out of it! I also when I do dream (I dont 99.9% of the time) I either dream about getting divorced (big fear of mine) or ill dream about magic in some way, shape, or form. So I even sin in my sleep! It wouldn't surprise me if I commit over a million sins a year. Yet, those are covered? Please! Yet God will deliver me from them? Please! I've been stuck in many of these sins for forever yet, im blood covered? The Bible doesn't say that. The Bible says that we cannot be stuck in our sins. That we cannot live in sin. Yet, I do. Because, here's the problem. God changed my spirit he didn't change me physically. So naturally im going to sin. But, there probably isn't a single Christian out there that has sinned as much as I have in my life and especially after my conversion. There is something SERIOUSLY wrong with me because I live in completely willfully sin that I cannot stop.

This is... not normal... its like Satan got a hold of me... I know biblical impossibility but... still something is super screwed up with me.

What do I do? I keep going to God but he doesn't answer. I keep going to pastors but you get the same "your sins are covered" nonsense. But, thats not what the Bible says. The Bible says that we cannot live in willfull, habitual sin and thats exactly what I do. Therefore, that doesn't apply for me. Yes Jesus died for my sins because I am a child of God but there must be a limit to God's grace. Im sorry.

prodromos · Aug 30, 2020

Fast and pray, and ask others to do the same for you.

Danus · Aug 30, 2020

The Christian life isn't a life of perfection. If it was you'd have no need for Jesus. The Christian life isn't a life of restitution, because you can't afford the price that Jesus paid on your behalf for you.

The Christian life is a life repentance, and repentance means to turn around from your sin and to do that you must have a desire to do that, and everything I read in your post says that you have that desire and that you make the effort to act on that desire. So I don't see a problem at all, other than a need for comfort and assurance.

The Christian life is a practice. It is a conscious effort, but it's important to remember that we are not saved by our life, because as you have mentioned, our life is a mess, and we fail all the time daily. We are saved by the perfect life of Jesus Christ. It is His life that God sees not ours. However, we live the Christian life in honor of the one who lived the perfect life on our behalf. Our faith is in Him, and His life, and His sacrifice for us. Lets not misplace that faith by trying to put it in ourselves. Agree?

Danus · Aug 30, 2020

The Christian life isn't a life of perfection. If it was you'd have no need for Jesus. The Christian life isn't a life of restitution, because you can't afford the price that Jesus paid on your behalf for you.

The Christian life is a life of repentance, and repentance means to turn around from your sin and to do that you must have a desire to do that, and everything I read in your post says that you have that desire and that you make the effort to act on that desire. So I don't see a problem at all, other than a need for comfort and assurance, and placing faith where it belongs.

The Christian life is a practice. It is a conscious effort, but it's important to remember that we are not saved by our life, because as you have mentioned, our life is a mess, and we fail all the time daily. We are saved by the perfect life of Jesus Christ. It is His life that God sees not ours. However, we live the Christian life in honor of the one who lived the perfect life on our behalf. Our faith is in Him, and His life, and His sacrifice for us. Lets not misplace that faith by trying to put it in ourselves. Agree?

Neostarwcc · Aug 30, 2020

prodromos said:
Fast and pray, and ask others to do the same for you.

I know. Only God can fix this and I'm asking the impossible. I have to trust that God will deliver me and always keep his promises. Like Paul said, what God started he will finish. Ive seen much evidence over the years that God is in fact with me. He is in fact helping me everyday and is with me everyday.

But, saying that to me is like saying the sky is blue. I know its an undeniable fact. But at the same time you wonder why the sky is blue. You wonder why sometimes its purple or orange or other colors. Its makes you doubt that the sky is in fact, blue. I hope I made sense with this analogy. I love using it and it drives my wive crazy because apparently it makes no sense because we know why the sky is blue and is multicolored sometimes. But thats not what I'm trying to get at with the statement.

It is an undeniable fact that one day, we will be glorified and will NEVER sin against God ever again. Yet, somehow many Christians doubt that promise because it seems like we are stuck in our sins forever. Sins that are habitual and we can never stop. It feels like there's no hope.

Dave L · Aug 30, 2020

Neostarwcc said:
I'm really getting sick of living in the same darned wiful sins each and everyday. I am completely living in sin and there probably isn't hope for me.

I know, welcome to being human we sin everyday. But my convictions are mainly because it is the SAME sins that I am living in each and everyday. Using the Lord's name in vain in the worst possible ways, arguing with my wife nearly everyday about the most pointless crap possible it isn't just me that's sick b the arguing we argue so much that often times we argue in front of my parents and they're EXTREMELY sick of hearing it from us. Even if they often think I'm the person in the right of the argument. I'm an extremely angry person with an extreme tendency to be a pathological liar. I tell at least two lies each and everyday I think nothing of it because I'm schizophrenic and all schizophrencs are pathological liars but... still. You can't convince me that all of these sins are taken care of and blood bought and that I can keep living in them until the day I die and still be covered. That is not true, the Bible says the very opposite. I know for a 100% fact that I have the Holy Spirit and that im a regenerated child of God because I never uld have even come to God in the first place if it weren't for my regeneration. I never would feel guilty for my sins and like complete crap after each and every time I sin.

Its like God has set me completely free from certain sins but its like my most common sins im going to be stuck in living in until the day I die. I have not made any spiritual progress in the path of God in months. God has stopped working on me. Probaby because he's given up on me because of all the willful living in sin I do. Sometimes I'll even plan to commit sin. Like recently my surgery that's going on Tuesday. I planned for over a week that even if i was ready for my surgery Monday I would call them sand say that I was not. I didn't way to go enjoy that i was planning to lie to get out of it! I also when I do dream (I dont 99.9% of the time) I either dream about getting divorced (big fear of mine) or ill dream about magic in some way, shape, or form. So I even sin in my sleep! It wouldn't surprise me if I commit over a million sins a year. Yet, those are covered? Please! Yet God will deliver me from them? Please! I've been stuck in many of these sins for forever yet, im blood covered? The Bible doesn't say that. The Bible says that we cannot be stuck in our sins. That we cannot live in sin. Yet, I do. Because, here's the problem. God changed my spirit he didn't change me physically. So naturally im going to sin. But, there probably isn't a single Christian out there that has sinned as much as I have in my life and especially after my conversion. There is something SERIOUSLY wrong with me because I live in completely willfully sin that I cannot stop.

This is... not normal... its like Satan got a hold of me... I know biblical impossibility but... still something is super screwed up with me.

What do I do? I keep going to God but he doesn't answer. I keep going to pastors but you get the same "your sins are covered" nonsense. But, thats not what the Bible says. The Bible says that we cannot live in willfull, habitual sin and thats exactly what I do. Therefore, that doesn't apply for me. Yes Jesus died for my sins because I am a child of God but there must be a limit to God's grace. Im sorry.

I always pray that God would not lead me into temptation.

Neostarwcc · Aug 30, 2020

Danus said:
The Christian life isn't a life of perfection. If it was you'd have no need for Jesus. The Christian life isn't a life of restitution, because you can't afford the price that Jesus paid on your behalf for you.

The Christian life is a life repentance, and repentance means to turn around from your sin and to do that you must have a desire to do that, and everything I read in your post says that you have that desire and that you make the effort to act on that desire. So I don't see a problem at all, other than a need for comfort and assurance.

The Christian life is a practice. It is a conscious effort, but it's important to remember that we are not saved by our life, because as you have mentioned, our life is a mess, and we fail all the time daily. We are saved by the perfect life of Jesus Christ. It is His life that God sees not ours. However, we live the Christian life in honor of the one who lived the perfect life on our behalf. Our faith is in Him, and His life, and His sacrifice for us. Lets not misplace that faith by trying to put it in ourselves. Agree?

100% agreed. When I came to Christ it was in 100% faith and repentance. I was an Atheist at the time and literally got on my knees before God. There's only two kinds of people in the universe that deserve that kind of respect. A King, or God. And you kneel before a King you don't get on your knees begging a King to save you. People have, but a King doesnt deserve that kind of respect. Thats reserved for God alone.

But you're right, you cannot possibly live the life that Jesus did and Jesus is our only hope. But isn't there a limit to God's sacrifice? No. This isn't a reformed belief its my own heretical whining. Can't you sin past Jesus's perfect sacrifice? The apostles warned against living in sin and isn't that what I'm doing? Most of the time I sin without even thinking about it. There's no warning. Or there's a warning and I only care about it afterwards. Its like... "who cares if ill be chastised or punished by God afterwards?"

I don't fear God's wrath anymore. Now that im a child of God I dont care about thd consequences of sin I omly care afterwards and its not because I'm afraid of God's punishment, im afraid of his chastisement. Im afraid to hear God's inappropriate because naturally, i want God's praise. I dont want to hear him say "you could hav see done better to prevent your sin. Im disappointed in you for ... let's say my potty mouth". Ive got an awful potty mouth.

Running2win · Aug 30, 2020

My Mom was of the bi-polar personality (manic depressive). She got some medicine to even her out, and it helped her mood swings, but she didn't allow God to work on her either.

I have a similar personality but running has helped me a lot- without drugs. Do you run? Working out hard for long periods help your body to regulate. It also tends to help anger issues and too much sexual energy.

Wearing the old flesh out shows it who is boss-so to say. :oldthumbsup:

Scripture memory about certain issues helps too. Jesus quoted Scripture when Satan attacked Him. We need to do the same. Pick one or two verses about lying and anger, and quote them when you fell the urge to do either.

Don't feel like you have to win every argument with your wife. Maybe a Christian counseling session or two will help you both to learn how to "fight fair"?

Don't give up hope. You can do all things through Christ who strengthens you. Use a multi prong approach.

24The LORD bless you, and keep you;

25The LORD make His face shine on you,
And be gracious to you;

26The LORD lift up His countenance on you,
And give you peace.’ :amen:

Joyous Song · Aug 30, 2020

I have found the way to overcome a multitude of sins is to work at just overcoming one, just one. The realize you are going to stumble even overcoming that one but if you do just start over and try again. Doing this over and over again should increase the space of each stumble over time. As the space reaches 40 days you likely will have overcome that sin, though this cane take years.

Still, the first step into holiness happens to be becoming a beggar for G-d spirit- that is the way to the Kingdom, the second is to mourn; this is what your post is all about. The third is to be meek, humble, you show that also in your post. Next you need to hunger and thirst for Holiness- you doing this is realizing Grace is NOT Enough. Obedience is also important! The next step is to be merciful, as a sinner, this is extremely important. Therefore the sin you might want to work on is the feeling you have on having to be right. Is being right really all that important? I've found, stepping back in an argument and letting my husband get his way leads to two ends. 1) if I was right in time this becomes obvious and I do not say "I told you so" 2) I find out I was wrong, and he also never says "I told you so".

So that is the best advice I can give. I hope it helps.

mikeforjesus · Aug 30, 2020

the fruit of the spirit is self control it can only be got by praying and receiving the words of the bible as the bible says walk in the Spirit and you will not fulfill the lust of the flesh. I sin online sometimes too but I shouldn’t and I should read the bible and seek the spirit and work to do positive things. I need to feel the fear of God to seek God more in praying and reading His word so the Holy Spirit works to convict about sin and the need to repent as the bible says His word is living and powerful piercing to the division of soul and spirit and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. It is easy to have bible knowledge but I have to seek the experience myself

Hebrews 4:12-13
12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
13 And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.

NBB · Aug 30, 2020

I think you need to insist in prayer until God helps you. Who else is going to help us quit sin?

Neostarwcc · Aug 30, 2020

Running2win said:
My Mom was of the bi-polar personality (manic depressive). She got some medicine to even her out, and it helped her mood swings, but she didn't allow God to work on her either.

I have a similar personality but running has helped me a lot- without drugs. Do you run? Working out hard for long periods help your body to regulate. It also tends to help anger issues and too much sexual energy. Wearing the old flesh out shows it who is boss-so to say.

Scripture memory about certain issues helps too. Jesus quoted Scripture when Satan attacked Him. We need to do the same. Pick one or two verses about lying and anger, and quote them when you fell the urge to do either.

Don't feel like you have to win every argument with your wife. Maybe a Christian counseling session or two will help you both to learn how to "fight fair"?

Don't give up hope. You can do all things through Christ who strengthens you. Use a multi prong approach.

24The LORD bless you, and keep you;

25The LORD make His face shine on you,
And be gracious to you;

26The LORD lift up His countenance on you,
And give you peace.’

I am medicated and the medication helps with my psychotic and manic episodes to where ill usually

Recently starting in June I didnt sleep hardly for two months but God kept me sane during those two months. I didnt have a single episode at all and haven't had one since my year long episode that lasted until this April or so.

I cannot use my mental illness as a excuse for sinning we all as sinners "don't know what we're doing" and I guess i just wanted to give up from the multitudes of sins that I've been doing lately. But like people have told me, every sin is willfull when it comes to humanity. We know what we're doing is wrong and yet we do it anyway. Even the holiest of prophets and saints still struggled with tons of sin. I cannot be the example of worst sinner in the world or even close. There have been worse sinners that have been saved by the grace of God.

Yes, I have been exercising lately it helps me feel a bit better about myself actually. Especially when I'm starting to lose a few pounds. I need to lose a little over 100 pounds within the next 4 years or so hopefully. I have been down to 300 pounds before so I know its not impossible.

Anyway, thanks for reminding me of my position guys. We are children of God and those the son sets free are truly free indeed.

JIMINZ · Aug 31, 2020

Neostarwcc said:
We are children of God and those the son sets free are truly free indeed.

I have read everything you have said, I don't want it to sound as though I am just taking a jab at you, I'm not.

This is your very last statement, so I am asking you bluntly.

When you say "those the son sets free are truly free indeed."

Just what are you speaking about, if you consider yourself to be a chief of sinners, just what then has the Son set you free of.

Here is a little known or understood verse. I will separate it for easier understanding.

Rom 8:3
For what the law could not do,
in that it was weak through the flesh,
God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh,
and for sin,
condemned sin in the flesh:

Do you understand what that actually means, to you personally?

Not only did Jesus die physically for you to receive Forgiveness, and to become Reconciled to God, He at the same time Destroyed Sin in the Flesh for all of mankind, but only available to those who profess Him as Lord.

Therefore what the verse is saying is You Have Been Set Free From Sin! Because Jesus destroyed Sin in your Flesh, .... PERIOD,... end of story.

I only have one last question, when were you Baptized?

What do you do if you're stuck in willful habitual sin?

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