How We See America in Prophecy

HatGuy · Aug 29, 2020

My answer to this thread:

No.

ViaCrucis · Aug 29, 2020

HatGuy said:
My answer to this thread:

No.

If nothing else, the brazen audacity to think America so important that it simply must be in the Bible some where is really just so gosh-darn American that it's almost impressive in its sheer American-ness.

-CryptoLutheran

Philip_B · Aug 30, 2020

ViaCrucis said:
If nothing else, the brazen audacity to think America so important that it simply must be in the Bible some where is really just so gosh-darn American that it's almost impressive in its sheer American-ness.

-CryptoLutheran

And those who do so only have a view of America post October 12, 1492.

Timtofly · Aug 30, 2020

ViaCrucis said:
If nothing else, the brazen audacity to think America so important that it simply must be in the Bible some where is really just so gosh-darn American that it's almost impressive in its sheer American-ness.

-CryptoLutheran

No one has the brazen audacity to be considered a harlot church?

Jason0009 · Aug 30, 2020

I believe that in your entry the scriptures are taken out of context. Also how does the creation relate to Russian meddling? I'm confused and do not see the correlation.

John Mullally · Aug 31, 2020

As Christians we are called to affect History through prayer.

Examine the implications of the following passage from the Lord's Prayer:
Matthew 6:10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

1 Timothy 2:1-4 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Luke 18:1 And He spake a parable unto them to this end, that men ought always to pray, and not to faint;

Gregory Thompson · Sep 1, 2020

Philip_B said:
I really don't understand ameriocentric christianity.

Yes, fallacy - America is not the promised land, this ideology lead to mormonism.

kaaBlamoes98 · Sep 1, 2020

Joyous Song said:
Someone here asked if we knew of prophecies that specifically spoke of America that were found in the Sacred Scriptures. At the time we had a hard time thinking of one but then I remembered my husband and I published a document full of such references where we touched on and explain several scriptures that connect directly or indirectly to America (in Jeremiah, Isiah, Hosea, and Zechariah as well as foreshadowed) and Lev.26.

We were going to undated this document before posting it then decided not to (it was written after 9-11 and the nations response to 9-11, started). Still, though the data reported is dated, it may not be remembered. And these same effects have been mostly ongoing from the time this was published in 2003 to today, indeed most got worse. Thus by leaving as is, people maybe able to see these crisis in our nation keeps going.

Lastly, in 2003 when we published this we could not see Lev.23-26 because even though 9-11 fit that sword, what followed did not fit as well (pestilence was in our cities/towns, ע׳רplural not singular and possessive). Now it fits only too well. Covid -19 makes gathering in our cities/towns dangerous, Lev.26.25.

“And I will give you into your enemies hand”, ibid, is Russia who stole the last election, is trying to steal this one as well (why Putin bothers, I’m not sure) and Russia is now killing our soldiers and no one seems to care. Further, our commercial bread (baked in one oven ten women, 26), weighs the same as grandma’s bread, but it’s devoid of nutrients. Its gluten is over 100% increase from 100 years ago and carries toxins (most food today has some). So people eat it find it non satisfying and so they eat more and more and get fat (or sick) and do not know why.

The next judgment is total devastation! So this study, though dated, and long, we believe is still valuable. So we broke it up as we did our other long studies and post it in full here.

I just prayed for America and Japan.... they are interlocked, according to what I know about ships and what they’ve done

Joyous Song · Sep 6, 2020

tbstor said:
There really isn't.

JS: Brit-Am Lost Ten Tribes is a Jewish Orthodox site, run by Orthodox Jews in Israel. These have numerous Scriptural, anthropological and linguistical facts to support these claims. I suggests you check then out before saying Ephraim is not in the western nations.

Joyous Song · Sep 6, 2020

Dave L said:
But you have nothing but clipped segments of already fulfilled scripture to base your baseless claim on.

What do you mean by: clipped segments of already fulfilled scripture to base your baseless claim on? We links facts to those judgments, these things are still happening, the fires, the floods and the voter apathy even 20 years later. So what was "clipped segments" are you referring to?

Joyous Song · Sep 6, 2020

ViaCrucis said:
And Unitarians, and Deists, and Agnostics, and almost certainly some atheists.

JS: This is modern America but if your read the Declaration of Independence our root is clearly on G-d fearing men.

VC: If you want to find a nation that was founded exclusively by Christians, there are some--but the United States isn't one of them.

JS: This is the exact reason we are under judgment, not because of the sins of G-dless people in nation, but because those who claim Christianity are turning away from the root.

VC: Also, the US specifically was founded as a secular republic where the state and religion were to be completely separate, preserving religious liberty for all.

JS: Separation of Church and State is not even in our constitution its free exercise of Religion and that Christ Himself would agree on.

VC: Honestly almost any of the Latin American countries would be better in this regard. For example the Mexican revolution was, in part, fueled by Catholic clergy who were unhappy with the secularization which occurred following the Napoleonic invasion of Spain and the Spanish Crown making things more difficult. The father of Mexican independence, Miguel Hidalgo, was a Catholic priest.

That would make Mexico a far better candidate if one is looking for countries founded by Christians and which had Christianity as a major component of their founding. The US was specifically founded to be secular, and the founders were from diverse backgrounds, some were Christians, some were non-Christians, and some were heretics. But they all came together to establish a secular republic in which the state would have no role or authority in matters of religion, which has always been one of the linchpins of American democracy: its secularism.

JS: Latin America is also rooted in Christ, yes, and like America, Canada, South America, the English Commonwealth and North Western Europe all have HaShem at their root and so they too could face judgments as we are. they may in fact being facing just this.

I be curious if anyone has done a similar study for any of the nations we just named.

Joyous Song · Sep 6, 2020

Maria Billingsley said:
It's pretty easy. I assume you are coping and pasting from a Word Document? If so, here are the steps.
1) Open the Word file.
2) Go to the top and drop down "file".
3) Then go to "save as" . From there another menu pops up.
4) This menu asks you where you want to save it. I would save it on your desk top.
5) Once you choose the location, the next item to choose is "save as type".
6) This menu will drop down to several options, choose "PFD"
7) And save!

This should show up on your desk top as a PDF. From there you can attach the file to your post under "Upload a file".

Be blessed!

Thanks but as you likely see, my young adult daughter ran ,e through those steps and I got the PDF on-line.

Joyous Song · Sep 6, 2020

Michael Collum said:
Yes, fallacy - America is not the promised land, this ideology lead to mormonism.

The promise land is and always will be Ertz Y'srael or the Land of Israel yet E'phraim was still promised a land later where the fortress of Antiquity would rise again. America fits this land perfectly. This was created I believe because, even though we have a right of birth (all Christians in Israel do technically), Judah must recognize them first and accept the entire family. That will take two witnesses and maybe even Christ's return. Thus HaShem gave us a nation for now until we can return.

Joyous Song · Sep 6, 2020

kaaBlamoes98 said:
I just prayed for America and Japan.... they are interlocked, according to what I know about ships and what they’ve done

Why Japan? How are we and Japan interlocked

Dave L · Sep 6, 2020

Joyous Song said:
What do you mean by: clipped segments of already fulfilled scripture to base your baseless claim on? We links facts to those judgments, these things are still happening, the fires, the floods and the voter apathy even 20 years later. So what was "clipped segments" are you referring to?

Where does it say America? You make it say America when it does not.

Joyous Song · Sep 6, 2020

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Dave L said:
Where does it say America? You make it say America when it does not.

JS: Lev.28 is Judgment on G-d people when they sin. We as believers are called to listen to His voice and follow His commands (those that apply to us) and we we do not this text states judgments, specific judgments, which we showed are clearly happening in America 20 years ago, and are still visible today, are indeed coming down. This could happen to any nation of G-d people, we are only documenting one because, living in this nation, we can more clearly see those connections. Those of other Christian or Hebrew nations are welcome to compare these same texts with their own nations.

For example, we know people in England are feel disenfranchised by their leadership, and south America has human wolves causing many to flee. So we can see some links but not living there we cannot be certain.

Dave L · Sep 6, 2020

Joyous Song said:
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JS: Lev.28 is Judgment on G-d people when they sin. We as believers are called to listen to His voice and follow His commands (those that apply to us) and we we do not this text states judgments, specific judgments, which we showed are clearly happening in America 20 years ago, and are still visible today, are indeed coming down. This could happen to any nation of G-d people, we are only documenting one because, living in this nation, we can more clearly see those connections. Those of other Christian or Hebrew nations are welcome to compare these same texts with their own nations.

For example, we know people in England are feel disenfranchised by their leadership, and south America has human wolves causing many to flee. So we can see some links but not living there we cannot be certain.

God judges all nations. But he only mentions some by name. You say he mentions America but he does not.

Gregory Thompson · Sep 6, 2020

Joyous Song said:
The promise land is and always will be Ertz Y'srael or the Land of Israel yet E'phraim was still promised a land later where the fortress of Antiquity would rise again. America fits this land perfectly. This was created I believe because, even though we have a right of birth (all Christians in Israel do technically), Judah must recognize them first and accept the entire family. That will take two witnesses and maybe even Christ's return. Thus HaShem gave us a nation for now until we can return.

This land was stolen from the original inhabitants, but the Europeans were the evil ones, so the pattern does not follow.

tbstor · Sep 6, 2020

Joyous Song said:
JS: Brit-Am Lost Ten Tribes is a Jewish Orthodox site, run by Orthodox Jews in Israel. These have numerous Scriptural, anthropological and linguistical facts to support these claims. I suggests you check then out before saying Ephraim is not in the western nations.

I have checked them out. I am familiar with British Israelism.

Joyous Song · Sep 10, 2020

Michael Collum said:
This land was stolen from the original inhabitants, but the Europeans were the evil ones, so the pattern does not follow.

Actually, thee is a prophecy from a western tribe that foretold Europeans coming, but also foretold HaShem would one day send us home. Any remaining will likely be under the authority of Native Americans. That my guess at least.

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