Sister Dede Byrne's RNC Speech

Gnarwhal · Aug 27, 2020

An excellent speech from a real nun, hoisting her rosary at the end!

Michie · Aug 27, 2020

Full Text: Sister Dede Byrne’s Speech at the 2020 Republican National Convention

pdudgeon · Aug 28, 2020

It was an excellent speech, but it was sadly out of place.

What she said was correct, but it was not her place to stand in front of a nationwide audience and deliver that word.

You would never have seen the Virgin Mary doing that while she was alive,
but only when she was glorified, and then only with God's permission.

The sister has not yet been glorified.

Michie · Aug 28, 2020

pdudgeon said:
It was an excellent speech, but it was sadly out of place.
What she said was correct, but it was not her place to stand in front of a nationwide audience and deliver that word.

You would never have seen the Virgin Mary doing that while she was alive,
but only when she was glorified, and then only with God's permission.

The sister has not yet been glorified.

Huh?

AvilaSurfer · Aug 28, 2020

Michie said:
Huh?

Yeah.

pdudgeon · Aug 28, 2020

Michie said:
Huh?

Stop and think for a moment. This religious is not a Mother Superior, she is a nun. In habit. And hopefully under obedience to a Mother Superior somewhere.

As such, what she said in her speech involves the dealings of the World.

But as a nun, she is set apart from the dealings of the World, so that she may concentrate instead on her spiritual life, and so that she can intercede in prayer for others who are out in the World, and also that she has time to devote to prayer, worship, and adoration, as well as work and charity.

One has to wonder if she is fully involved in doing all those those things above for the Glory of God, when she has time for politics, and why she agreed to make a political speech.

The Little Workers of the Sacred Hearts of Jesus and Mary

Michie · Aug 28, 2020

I disagree. She is not a cleric and neither is a Mother Superior. People of faith have a place in the public square.

pdudgeon · Aug 28, 2020

Michie said:
I disagree. She is not a cleric and neither is a Mother Superior. People of faith have a place in the public square.

People of faith who have a place and a voice in the public square are usually Cardinals, Bishops, Priests, and Mother Superiors. Those are the recognized and designated leaders of our spiritual faith.

This woman is a nun, and as such, it is her job to teach, care for, and encourage children and the elderly spiritually, who are in the World.

While in the World, Sister Dede was most certainly a leader. But as a nun, she is a servant of all.

But the Religious themselves by choice remain outside of the World, so that their lives may be holy, prepared, enriched, and fulfilled, and so that they may exemplify the spiritual lives of Mary and the Saints, and thus to serve as Christian models for the children of the World to follow when they grow up.

They also serve as care takers and encouragers for the aged, and help them to prepare to deal with what life has given them, and also to prepare for an eternal life as well.

Michie · Aug 28, 2020

pdudgeon said:
People of faith who have a place and a voice in the public square are usually Cardinals, Bishops, Priests, and Mother Superiors. Those are the recognized and designated leaders of our spiritual faith.

This woman is a nun, and as such, it is her job to teach, care for, and encourage children and the elderly spiritually, who are in the World.

While in the World, Sister Dede was most certainly a leader. But as a nun, she is a servant of all.

But the Religious themselves by choice remain outside of the World, so that their lives may be holy, prepared, enriched, and fulfilled, and so that they may exemplify the spiritual lives of Mary and the Saints, and thus to serve as Christian models for the children of the World to follow when they grow up.

They also serve as care takers and encouragers for the aged, and help them to prepare to deal with what life has given them, and also to prepare for an eternal life as well.

Yes I’m aware. I’m also aware there was absolutely nothing about her speaking at the RNC. Bonus that she did not misrepresent unlike other clerics and religious at the DNC.

Michie · Aug 28, 2020

Sister Deirdre Byrne, a nun who was formerly a colonel in the U.S. Army Medical Corps, gave a knock-out speech at the Republican National Convention last night.

Army doctor at RNC who became nun: ‘I’m not just pro-life. I’m pro–eternal life’

Romans 13:3 · Aug 28, 2020

Imagine that, truth being spoken at a political convention. Wonders will never cease...

Michie · Aug 28, 2020

I highly doubt this nun hightailed it to the RNC without permission from her order. I thought the speech was excellent and much needed.

Gnarwhal · Aug 28, 2020

pdudgeon said:
Stop and think for a moment. This religious is not a Mother Superior, she is a nun. In habit. And hopefully under obedience to a Mother Superior somewhere.

As such, what she said in her speech involves the dealings of the World.

But as a nun, she is set apart from the dealings of the World, so that she may concentrate instead on her spiritual life, and so that she can intercede in prayer for others who are out in the World, and also that she has time to devote to prayer, worship, and adoration, as well as work and charity.

One has to wonder if she is fully involved in doing all those those things above for the Glory of God, when she has time for politics, and why she agreed to make a political speech.

The Little Workers of the Sacred Hearts of Jesus and Mary

The DNC had Sr. Simone Campbell and Fr. James Martin both present. When the Dems announced that they would be speaking/praying at the DNC Bishop Strickland said he hoped the RNC invited someone to represent the Church. What Sr. Byrnes said was more an advocacy for life and a representation of the faith than anything else.

There's nothing wrong with clergy or religious being involved politically, they just can't run for elected office - which is fine. If there was a problem with them being involved at all then the pro-life movement would be a shadow of what it is today. Almost every bishop and priest in the country is involved in the movement in some way, shape, or form.

Romans 13:3 · Aug 28, 2020

Especially when their delivered message is consistent

Fenwick said:
The DNC had Sr. Simone Campbell and Fr. James Martin both present. When the Dems announced that they would be speaking/praying at the DNC Bishop Strickland said he hoped the RNC invited someone to represent the Church. What Sr. Byrnes said was more an advocacy for life and a representation of the faith than anything else.

There's nothing wrong with clergy or religious being involved politically, they just can't run for elected office - which is fine. If there was a problem with them being involved at all then the pro-life movement would be a shadow of what it is today. Almost every bishop and priest in the country is involved in the movement in some way, shape, or form.

with the underlying organization.

thecolorsblend · Aug 28, 2020

I think all religious have skin in the game, at least in America. I'm prepared to look the other way Sr. Byrne's speech, especially since I haven't heard her say anything that isn't sound Catholic doctrine so far. There are worse things people at home could do than hear proper Catholic doctrine.

RushMAN · Aug 28, 2020

Michie said:
I disagree. She is not a cleric and neither is a Mother Superior. People of faith have a place in the public square.

Exactly!

Gnarwhal · Aug 28, 2020

thecolorsblend said:
I think all religious have skin in the game, at least in America. I'm prepared to look the other way Sr. Byrne's speech, especially since I haven't heard her say anything that isn't sound Catholic doctrine so far. There are worse things people at home could do than hear proper Catholic doctrine.

More than that, when two individuals representing the Church come forward on the wrong side and then muddy the waters about what the Church believes and stands for I would say it's necessary that it be counterbalanced by someone else representing the Church correctly. The bottom line is conservative parties align with the Church's most non-negotiable tenants (i.e. abortion), and a Catholic cannot support a liberal party and remain a Catholic in good standing.

We all know Martin is at best naive and at worst in the service of something other than the Church. Sister Campbell, when referring to abortion said "it's above my pay grade." Above her pay grade? Defending the dignity of all life is one of the Church's biggest social missions in this world.

pdudgeon · Aug 29, 2020

Fenwick said:
More than that, when two individuals representing the Church come forward on the wrong side and then muddy the waters about what the Church believes and stands for I would say it's necessary that it be counterbalanced by someone else representing the Church correctly. The bottom line is conservative parties align with the Church's most non-negotiable tenants (i.e. abortion), and a Catholic cannot support a liberal party and remain a Catholic in good standing.

We all know Martin is at best naive and at worst in the service of something other than the Church. Sister Campbell, when referring to abortion said "it's above my pay grade." Above her pay grade? Defending the dignity of all life is one of the Church's biggest social missions in this world.

I agree with what you've said up here^

Where we possibly differ is that while the Democrats got one thing right in that they sent in recognized and trained spokespersons for the Church, but who had the wrong theology.
The Republicans sent someone with the right theology, but who lacked the training or the authority to back it up.

Thus neither side won that battle.

Michie · Aug 29, 2020

RushMAN · Aug 29, 2020

pdudgeon said:
The Republicans sent someone with the right theology, but who lacked the training or the authority to back it up.

Thus neither side won that battle.

I must completely, utterly, and absolutely disagree

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