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The remnant returning? Really? Do they love Christ. No, they hate Him. They are not the remnant but children of the devil. The wrath of God is therefore on apostate Zionist Israel.

Are you suggesting that those that hate Christ are God's chosen people?

Jesus said: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”

Jesus was our signpost to heaven. He was our direction. He was the way! What is more, when men saw Christ they saw truth, when they heard Christ they heard truth, when they embraced Christ they embraced truth. He also was the embodiment of eternal life. Without Him is spiritual death.

Jesus said, in John 10:1, “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.” He then goes on to explain, “I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture” (John 10:9).

Favor with God can come only through Jesus Christ. He is heaven’s only means of access to God. Acts 4:12 says, “Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”

This is God’s only way to heaven. Christ is the center-point of salvation. We therefore see that Christ alone is our only way of access to heaven. There is no alternative arrangement pertaining to race or any other distinction. 1 Corinthians 3:11 states, “For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.”

Of course, Christ is the Rock that the believer stands on. He is the only spiritual foundation for man. Men either build their house upon that Rock or build it upon sand. Sand is self! A house properly built upon the Rock stands firm in the midst of the storm but the house built upon the sand falls apart. 1 Timothy 2:5-6 expressly states, “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time”

This couldn’t be any clearer! There is no Plan B. There is no back-doors into heaven. There is no alternative salvation. There is no other means of man gaining favor with God! There is no other way to become a child of God. There is no other path to be God’s one of God’s elect.

John the Baptist proclaimed in John 3:36, “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.”

There is nothing vague, ambiguous or complicated here. God only sees those in Christ and those not in Christ. There is also no room for fence-sitting here. If a Jew or Gentile (in the Old Testament or the New Testament) loves the Messiah Christ He is one of God's chosen, if he doesn't he is under the wrath of God. Simple!!! Basically: accept Jesus and God accepts you, reject Him and God rejects you.

Jesus said in John 5:23b-24, “He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”

Ok, what does this mean? Simple: those Jews and Gentiles that don’t accept Christ, don’t accept the Father. Christ-rejecting Jews and Gentiles are therefore under condemnation and are of their father the devil.

I John 2:22-23 solemnly asks, “Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ (or Messiah)? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.”

Q. Does Israel overwhelmingly deny “that Jesus is the Christ” or Messiah?

A. Absolutely. Therefore, Judaism without Christ is a counterfeit religion. It is apostate! Any belief that denies Christ His rightful place as man's sole Redeemer is destined for destruction. Anyone that rejects Christ (1) is antichrist, (2) belongs to Satan, (3) is part of the kingdom of darkness and is (4) bound for the Lake of Fire.

1 John 5:12: “He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.”

The teaching of Scripture couldn’t be plainer: Jews who do recognize Christ as Messiah are saved. Jews who do not recognize Christ as Messiah are lost. The only chosen people that God knows and accepts are those that accept His Son. The rest are of their father the devil.

2 John 1:9: “Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.”

If a sinner refuses Christ, he refuses the Father. This couldn’t be clearer in Scripture.

Jesus said in Luke 9:48, “whosoever shall receive me receiveth him that sent me.”

So, those that reject Jesus, reject salvation. Those that reject Jesus, reject the Father. Those that reject Jesus, are children of the devil. This is seen throughout the inspired New Testament account.

Jesus said in Matthew 11:6: “blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me.”

We don’t need to speculate about what natural Israel currently thinks of Christ.

Jesus said in Matthew 12:30, “He that is not with me is against me.”

There is no neutrality with this Jesus. There is no room for fence-sitting when it comes to Him. You are either for Him or against Him.

Jesus said in John 15:23, “He that hateth me hateth my Father also.”

God does not separate His elect up, He unites them together in Christ. In fact, there is nothing more unbiblical in this new covenant period than trying to divide up the people of God on the grounds of ethnicity. That is spiritual apartheid and runs completely to the New Testament plan of God to bring Jew and Gentile together equally in Christ. The whole mission of Jesus Christ in introducing the new covenant was to unite Jew and Gentile in salvation. Nothing could be clearer in the New Testament!

The whole thing is you have to disregard that God sets up Kings and kingdoms and tears them down to not believe He is currently working to bring Israel back to Himself.
20Daniel said,
“Let the name of God be blessed forever and ever,
For wisdom and power belong to Him.

21“It is He who changes the times and the epochs;
He removes kings and establishes kings;
He gives wisdom to wise men
And knowledge to men of understanding.

Scattered for about the last 2000 years, now back as a strong Nation ( in unbelief) back where they were kicked out of. God will graft them back into the olive tree (Rom 11), but this will only happen after they suffer again and 2/3 are killed. They will then turn back to God after the great tribulation and day of the Lord judgments when a remnant repents and believes in Jesus. (Zech 12-14)

So no one believes Israel as saved now. Nobody believes that when they start to offer sacrifices in a new Temple they will take away sin. But this will all happen again because Scripture needs to be fulfilled, and the remnant that will believe in Jesus when He returns has to be brought through the fire and turn to Him.

God will bring this to pass, whether you believe it or not. The nation of Israel will be born (again) in one day, after she travails. Notice the boy (Jesus) comes first, then Zion (Jerusalem) travails and they are all born at once. (national repentance)


5Hear the word of the LORD, you who tremble at His word:
“Your brothers who hate you, who exclude you for My name’s sake,
Have said, ‘Let the LORD be glorified, that we may see your joy.’
But they will be put to shame.

6“A voice of uproar from the city, a voice from the temple,
The voice of the LORD who is rendering recompense to His enemies.

7“Before she travailed, she brought forth;
Before her pain came, she gave birth to a boy.


8“Who has heard such a thing? Who has seen such things?
Can a land be born in one day?
Can a nation be brought forth all at once?
As soon as Zion travailed, she also brought forth her sons.

9“Shall I bring to the point of birth and not give delivery?” says the LORD.
“Or shall I who gives delivery shut the womb?” says your God.
 
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AN ORACLE FOR OUR TIMES:

Ecclesiasticus 48:24-25 Isaiah reveals what is to be, secrets of things to come.


Isaiah 21:1 A whirlwind sweeps through the Negev, from the wilderness, a land of terror.
A CME sunstrike hits the Middle East region, with devastating consequences. Ezekiel 20:47-48, Isaiah 30:26-30

Isaiah 21:2 In my vision, I see a traitor betrayed. Advance Elam, up Media, to the siege. Perhaps an Israeli traitor gives information to Iran. The Iranian leadership commence to attack, as they have threatened to do.

Isaiah 21:3-5 I am in pain, trembling in fear. Night has become a horror to me.
The princes and leaders sit down to a banquet. Rise and polish your shields.

They are unprepared, life as normal. Get up! Prepare for war!

Isaiah21:6-7 Go, post a lookout. If he sees columns of horsemen, donkeys and camels advancing, he must be fully alert.
Keep watch- if your enemies combine, that is, form alliances, then look out! Psalm 83:1-8

Isaiah 21:8-9 Day and night, I watch- they come - a voice calls ”fallen is Babylon, her Gods are shattered”
Israel and most of the Middle East are devastated. Zephaniah 1:14-18, Ezekiel 30:1-5

Isaiah 21:10 O My people, crushed on the threshing floor. From the God of Israel, I have told you.
The House of Judah, judged and punished as decreed by God. Jeremiah 10:18, Amos 2:4-5, Ezekiel 21:1-7

Isaiah 22:1 Tell me, what is amiss with you? Why have you climbed up onto the roof? Why do you worry- run out of your houses?

Isaiah 22:2 Your city is in an uproar, your slain did not fall by the sword in battle. Everyone is terrified. Those killed were by the heat flash and fires.

Isaiah 22:3 All your commanders have fled, bravest soldiers gone in all directions.
The IDF will flee in terror.

Isaiah 22:4 That is why I said, leave Me to weep in misery. Do not console Me for the ruin of My people. The House of Judah, in their judgement and punishment. Jeremiah 8:5-12, Isaiah 4:3-4, Zechariah 13:7-9, Romans 9:27

Isaiah 22:5 For the Lord has ordained a day of tumult, a day of turmoil in the valleys and mountains.
The day of the Lords vengeance and wrath against the Middle East is set.

Isaiah 22:6 Elam took up the quiver, the chariots of Aram were readied, Kir bared the shield. Iran and their allies attack. A quiver is an arrow holder. An arrow is USA military code for a nuclear weapon. Zechariah 5:1-7, Jeremiah 49:35

Isaiah 22:7 Your fairest valleys were overrun by chariots, your cities beset by horsemen. Severe damage to all the Land, done by the Lord’s fiery wrath. Joel 1:15-20

Isaiah 22:8 The heart of Judah’s defense was laid open.
Israel’s defense system is destroyed

Isaiah 22:8-11 On that day.... Desperate measures are taken to fight the fires.

Isaiah 22:11 You did not look to the Maker of the city, or consider Him who fashioned it long ago.
The Israelis refuse to acknowledge Gods Hand in their affairs or call for His help.

Isaiah 22:12 On that day, the Lord called for weeping and mourning.
Judah should repent in sincerity and call on the Lord.

Isaiah 22:13 Instead there was joy and merrymaking, feasting and dancing. You said ‘let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die”

Isaiah 22: 14 Here are words revealed by the Lord of Hosts - Assuredly your wickedness will never be wiped out, you will die for it. Zephaniah 1:1-18, Jeremiah 13:19, Romans 9:27

Modern place names from Strongs Concordance; Elam and Media = Iran. Aram = Syria. Kir = Arabia. Judah = the Jews, the current inhabitants of Israel.
 
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I've been unaware since this wasn't something in the news for me but even on these forums I see that there was an altar, meant to be able to be taken apart and reassembled on the temple mount, and that the Sanhedrin have been performing animal sacrifices since 2019?

Is this true or is this all a ruse?
It's a ruse because it's unrelated to the sacrifices of scripture. Jesus is the one true sacrifice. That Jews reject him is only indicative of their wickedness. From a Christian standpoint it doesn't matter in the least what Jews do. They are irrelevant to our lives and theology.
 
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It's a ruse because it's unrelated to the sacrifices of scripture. Jesus is the one true sacrifice. That Jews reject him is only indicative of their wickedness. From a Christian standpoint it doesn't matter in the least what Jews do. They are irrelevant to our lives and theology.

It's 100% relevant because there will be a third temple built and sacrifices will begin, and be taken away, for the abomination of desolation that ushers in the Great Tribulation. This is scripture, read the book of Daniel. These are end times events that will happen within the world. We may be seeing everything being fulfilled, we may be those who remain alive at the Lord's coming.

How is that not relevant?.
 
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They are antichrist who reject Christ and the cross-work. This is all part of the end-time delusion. John deems anyone who denies “Jesus is the Christ (or Messiah)” as a liar” and an “antichrist.” This includes every single Jew and Gentile who rebels against God’s only provision for sin. There are no special exceptions or imaginary 3rd group of humans, as Dispies pretend. In 1 John 3:10 he shows that mankind is divided into two camps. One is called “the children of God” and the other is called “the children of the devil.”


Actually, though most Christians see the word anti-Christ as being against Christ, it actually means---in place of God. The anti-Christ is one who places himself in the place of Christ.
 
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Then they are of their father the devil and are under the wrath of God. We left the old covenant forever through the cross-work. Stop trying to take us back to a failed and abolished system. Stop trying to sow the temple curtain. Stop elevating the natural above the spiritual. The new covenant perfectly did away with the old.

The biased Zionist focus of many Dispensationalists today, with their unhealthy fixation on national Israel, is roundly rebuked throughout New Testament Scriptures. The apartheid they advocate runs contrary to God’s heart for this new covenant era. It is shown to be contrary to New Testament truth. In fact, it is the reverse of God’s plan for the nations.

In Acts 10, God uses a vision of unclean food to help the apostle Peter see that in Christ there is no longer any spiritual distinction between Jew and Gentile. God now accepts both equally on the same terms into His kingdom. Peter responds to this great monumental revelation in Acts 10:34-36: “I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him. The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all).”

The word interpreted “respecter” in the King James Version is the Greek word prosopoleptes which simply means: one exhibiting partiality. In fact, the New King James Version renders this, “In truth I perceive that God shows no partiality. But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him.”

The Revised Standard Version states: “Truly I perceive that God shows no partiality, but in every nation any one who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.” The New Living Translation: “I see very clearly that God doesn't show partiality. In every nation he accepts those who fear him and do what is right.” Today’s English Version similarly states, “I now realize that it is true that God treats everyone on the same basis. Whoever fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him, no matter what race he belongs to.” New International Version states: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism but accepts men from every nation who fear him and do what is right.”

This passage is crystal clear in its meaning and explanation of how God views all nations, peoples and tribes equally today. The reading makes it clear: God is no respecter of persons. This is not strange or outlandish; it is the constant theme of the New Testament. The Gospel is no longer restricted to the physical race of Israel but it has been opened up to embrace all nations. This means that God doesn’t accept anyone based on their nationality, color or status but rather on whether or not they fear Him. When it comes to salvation he looks at the inward rather than the outward. Those that fear him and walk righteously “in every nation” are now “accepted with him.” He is assuredly “Lord of all.” He has made all nations, tribes and kindreds the focus of His favor today. It is wrong to elevate one nation over another.

We are NOT adhering to that old system. Listen to us, we're NOT ADVOCATING THIS, we are taking note of it because Jesus told us to watch and wait. PEOPLE THAT REJECT JESUS CHRIST are bringing back animal sacrifices, THEY believe that this is the right way and THEY believe their Messiah is already here and are setting the world stage for him.
Why do you think Rabbis are investigating Donald Trump's geneology in order to try and connect him to the line of David? Because some of them believe that Donald Trump could be the messiah.
What they do is not in response to OUR beliefs but in response to THEIR beliefs, as wrong as they are.
They're trying to seize for themselves without God's blessing.
 
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You are submitting to apostate Judaism teaching. Where does it teach such error in the NT? Is Jesus not enough for you?

You're being extremely dense right now.

Read the book of Daniel, and stop spiritualizing the meaning, read it as it is written.
Understand to the Christ Rejectors, our belief in Christ does not matter to them, they will build a temple, they will perform sacrifices, because of THEIR beliefs, not ours.
Revelation 11:1-2 we're talking about a physical temple that can be measured.

Daniel 12:11
Jews have not sacrificed animals at the temple since 70AD. Jesus didn't return 1290 days later or 1335 days later, even 2300 days later, we didn't have the 2nd coming of Christ.
What does that mean? That Jews will resume daily sacrifices at some point, and then they will be stopped. These are events on the prophetic calendar, the thing we are to be warned of is the end of daily sacrifices, where the abomination of desolation will be set up. These events PRECEDE the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ.

So why do we pay attention? Because it means that Jesus will return soon.
Matthew 24:32-34
32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
 
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Actually, though most Christians see the word anti-Christ as being against Christ, it actually means---in place of God. The anti-Christ is one who places himself in the place of Christ.

This is correct, Orthodox Jews who reject Jesus (now there are Jews who have converted to Christianity, and also Messianic Jews who while they still obey the Torah, still believe that salvation is through faith in Jesus (who they call Yeshua) , this is not a race or ethnicity thing, but a faith thing) are awaiting for a Messiah, what they will get, is someone who comes IN PLACE OF Christ, the Anti Christ.
 
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Then they are of their father the devil and are under the wrath of God. We left the old covenant forever through the cross-work. Stop trying to take us back to a failed and abolished system. Stop trying to sow the temple curtain. Stop elevating the natural above the spiritual. The new covenant perfectly did away with the old.

The biased Zionist focus of many Dispensationalists today, with their unhealthy fixation on national Israel, is roundly rebuked throughout New Testament Scriptures. The apartheid they advocate runs contrary to God’s heart for this new covenant era. It is shown to be contrary to New Testament truth. In fact, it is the reverse of God’s plan for the nations.

In Acts 10, God uses a vision of unclean food to help the apostle Peter see that in Christ there is no longer any spiritual distinction between Jew and Gentile. God now accepts both equally on the same terms into His kingdom. Peter responds to this great monumental revelation in Acts 10:34-36: “I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him. The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all).”

The word interpreted “respecter” in the King James Version is the Greek word prosopoleptes which simply means: one exhibiting partiality. In fact, the New King James Version renders this, “In truth I perceive that God shows no partiality. But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him.”

The Revised Standard Version states: “Truly I perceive that God shows no partiality, but in every nation any one who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.” The New Living Translation: “I see very clearly that God doesn't show partiality. In every nation he accepts those who fear him and do what is right.” Today’s English Version similarly states, “I now realize that it is true that God treats everyone on the same basis. Whoever fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him, no matter what race he belongs to.” New International Version states: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism but accepts men from every nation who fear him and do what is right.”

This passage is crystal clear in its meaning and explanation of how God views all nations, peoples and tribes equally today. The reading makes it clear: God is no respecter of persons. This is not strange or outlandish; it is the constant theme of the New Testament. The Gospel is no longer restricted to the physical race of Israel but it has been opened up to embrace all nations. This means that God doesn’t accept anyone based on their nationality, color or status but rather on whether or not they fear Him. When it comes to salvation he looks at the inward rather than the outward. Those that fear him and walk righteously “in every nation” are now “accepted with him.” He is assuredly “Lord of all.” He has made all nations, tribes and kindreds the focus of His favor today. It is wrong to elevate one nation over another.
You just parrot the same ole thing without considering what I said.:sigh:

You got a different viewpoint than Paul does. Paul wanted all Israel to be saved and said they would be. You are being arrogant-just like Paul said the Church as a whole would be in the last days, and we will be cut off when Israel is grafted back in. It seems you don't want the Nation of Israel to be saved? Your Hatred of the Jews is thinly veiled indeed.

You cannot revoke what God has gifted and said in the OT prophecies. Israel will be saved and reign alongside Jesus and the Church in the MK. You should tremble as Paul says, not be conceited because the Gentile Church is in Gods favor now, and National Israel is not.


11Again I ask: Did they stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? Not at all! Rather, because of their transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles to make Israel envious. 12But if their transgression means riches for the world, and their loss means riches for the Gentiles, how much greater riches will their full inclusion bring!

17If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18do not consider yourself to be superior to those other branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in.” 20Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but tremble. 21For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.

22Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off. 23And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree!

25I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26and in this way e all Israel will be saved. As it is written:

“The deliverer will come from Zion;

he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.

27And this is f my covenant with them

when I take away their sins.” g

28As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable. 30Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience, 31so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now h receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you. 32For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.
 
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You got a different viewpoint than Paul does. Paul wanted all Israel to be saved and said they would be. You are being arrogant-just like Paul said the Church as a whole would be in the last days, and we will be cut off when Israel is grafted back in. It seems you don't want the Nation of Israel to be saved? Your Hatred of the Jews is thinly veiled indeed.

You cannot revoke what God has gifted and said in the OT prophecies. Israel will be saved and reign alongside Jesus and the Church in the MK. You should tremble as Paul says, not be conceited because the Gentile Church is in Gods favor now, and National Israel is not.

How does God identify the Israel that He saves?

1. By their physical DNA of Abraham's genes?
2. By their spiritual DNA of faithfulness and obedience to His Son?

Verdict?
 
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I've been unaware since this wasn't something in the news for me but even on these forums I see that there was an altar, meant to be able to be taken apart and reassembled on the temple mount, and that the Sanhedrin have been performing animal sacrifices since 2019?

Is this true or is this all a ruse?
I don't know; sounds very strange though. Most Jews will cite the passage Isaiah 1:11 to buttress their belief that God ended animal sacrifice. Right?
 
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How does God identify the Israel that He saves?

1. By their physical DNA of Abraham's genes?
2. By their spiritual DNA of faithfulness and obedience to His Son?

Verdict?
I believe that when the true Jews...tested as in Revelation...the Bible is referring to all true believers; not physical Jews.
Gentiles are grafted in.
for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. --
Galations 3:27-28 NIV 2011
 
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I don't know; sounds very strange though. Most Jews will cite the passage Isaiah 1:11 to buttress their belief that God ended animal sacrifice. Right?

Good passage on that, so you know that these Jews are not acting in the will of God by doing what they are doing.. but they're doing it and it leads us to prophecy fulfillment regardless of what their aims are.
 
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It's 100% relevant because there will be a third temple built and sacrifices will begin, and be taken away, for the abomination of desolation that ushers in the Great Tribulation. This is scripture, read the book of Daniel. These are end times events that will happen within the world. We may be seeing everything being fulfilled, we may be those who remain alive at the Lord's coming.

How is that not relevant?.
That is a grotesque misinterpretation of Daniel.
 
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Good passage on that, so you know that these Jews are not acting in the will of God by doing what they are doing.. but they're doing it and it leads us to prophecy fulfillment regardless of what their aims are.
I was just expressing that I am perplexed. I'm not following well enough yet...what prophesy is fulfilled in this act?
I believe the lawlessness of these days here in the US is alarming...fulfillment or advancing days of the prophesy of II Thessalonians 2
 
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