The Ten Commandments

The 10 commandments are as much needed today as they have always been. I know that the Catholic church believes that. I very much believe that.

When saved/born again/converted we are no longer in bondage to the law, but we must try to obey all of them. As we mature as a Christian we grow in grace through faith using the 10 commandments as a guide.

Paul, Peter and John explains the 10 commandments in great detail (The characteristics/traits a Christian must follow in their life, the 10 commandments unfolded).. We all fall short of the mark in this life. We all sin in thought, word and deed, so we're forever thankful to Christ our Saviour shedding his blood for our sins.

Yes, the 10 are in the 2 (Matt, Mark, Luke, and John).

I see it as an update to the law. They weren't just done away with they were carried forward in a new light. This is a good example.

Are the Ten Commandments in the New Testament?

ChristServant said:

This may open a can of worms. Here we go, well when I've gone to some churches in the past trying to find things out, I would ask about the ten commandments and I had people screw their faces with immense anger and say they were nailed to the cross and that's it. Others said, "There done away with." I struggled for a great deal of time thinking why do professing Christians hate GOD's laws so much. I could not shake the ten commandments out of my thoughts when reading or listening to the Old Testament even more so when I read Isaiah 42:21
21The LORD is well pleased for His
righteousness' sake; He will exalt the
law and make it honorable.

I tried to understand this and again, tried to ask other Christians but again the same sort of remarks but this time with a dislike towards me, no more smiles and an avoidance. So, I never asked again but something in me would not let it go. Scripture was my only option and asking GOD for understanding which is always a prayer I ask. Well I believe I have eventually come to an understanding, this is my understanding.

Do I believe the ten commandments are done away with? Yes and No
Yes, I believe the ten commandments are done away with regarding earning anyone a right to salvation.
No, I do not believe the ten commandments are completely done away with but of great use in other regards. These are not just my thought.

A great many Christians believe the ten commandments are completely done away with in any form, sorry to tell you this is not what scripture informs me of. Here are passages from scripture that would say otherwise;

Romans 3:19
Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before GOD.

Psalm 19:7
The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul

Galatians 3:24
Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
But after faith has come, we are no longer under the tutor.

1 Timothy 1:8
But we know that the law is good if one uses it lawfully

Isaiah was right using the law in this manner to bring people to salvation in Christ is honorable, truly honorable.

If more people read scripture with an unbias doctrinal opinion they would help many more come to GOD the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

My short but hard Journey to some truth.

Peace be with all those in the body of Christ

Christian you are a child of GOD and remember;
God from the beginning CHOSE YOU for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth,

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Love fulfills the law so Christians are not under it. Since love is the basis for the New Covenant. But we use it as a checkpoint for our thoughts and actions.

Here is what Holy Spirit say: Proverbs 28:9 He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.

Ask yourself, how did Jesus teach the Jews to keep the Ten Commandments? See if you can answer this.

The 10 commandments were given to the Jews Alone (Not Gentiles). (Ex 34:27)

Christ was the END OF THE OT LAW. (Rom. 10:4) (2Cor.3) (Eph. 2:14-17) (Col. 2:14-17) (Heb. 8:6-13 ; 9:15-17 ; 10:9,10) (Gal.4:22-31)

The principles found within the 10 commandments are restated in the words of Jesus. (Heb. 2:3) (Jn 14:26)

To go back to the OT Law (10 commandments) is to fall from the grace of God. (Gal. 5:4)

Read more here.
Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth

ChristServant said:

How can every mouth be stopped and the whole world be held accountable to God through His law if only the Jews are under His law, not the Gentiles?

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Check out pages 3-6 of the following link.

Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth




Thanks

ChristServant said:

Who's truth GOD's or Man's?

So what sins did you repent of to come to Christ if you had no measurements for sin and you never had the commandments?
For by the law is the knowledge of sin
all have sinned and fall short of the glory of GOD
I would not know sin if not for the law

40 On these two commandments hang all
the Law and the Prophets." How can you hang all the law if it doesn't exist?

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The Lords truth.



We are under law today according to (Rom. 8:2) (James 1:25) (Gal. 6:2).

Ro 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus...

Jas 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty...

Ga 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

ChristServant said:

This may open a can of worms. Here we go, well when I've gone to some churches in the past trying to find things out, I would ask about the ten commandments and I had people screw their faces with immense anger and say they were nailed to the cross and that's it. Others said, "There done away with." I struggled for a great deal of time thinking why do professing Christians hate GOD's laws so much. I could not shake the ten commandments out of my thoughts when reading or listening to the Old Testament even more so when I read Isaiah 42:21
21The LORD is well pleased for His
righteousness' sake; He will exalt the
law and make it honorable.

I tried to understand this and again, tried to ask other Christians but again the same sort of remarks but this time with a dislike towards me, no more smiles and an avoidance. So, I never asked again but something in me would not let it go. Scripture was my only option and asking GOD for understanding which is always a prayer I ask. Well I believe I have eventually come to an understanding, this is my understanding.

Do I believe the ten commandments are done away with? Yes and No
Yes, I believe the ten commandments are done away with regarding earning anyone a right to salvation.
No, I do not believe the ten commandments are completely done away with but of great use in other regards. These are not just my thought.

A great many Christians believe the ten commandments are completely done away with in any form, sorry to tell you this is not what scripture informs me of. Here are passages from scripture that would say otherwise;

Romans 3:19
Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before GOD.

Psalm 19:7
The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul

Galatians 3:24
Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
But after faith has come, we are no longer under the tutor.

1 Timothy 1:8
But we know that the law is good if one uses it lawfully

Isaiah was right using the law in this manner to bring people to salvation in Christ is honorable, truly honorable.

If more people read scripture with an unbias doctrinal opinion they would help many more come to GOD the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

My short but hard Journey to some truth.

Peace be with all those in the body of Christ

Christian you are a child of GOD and remember;
God from the beginning CHOSE YOU for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth,

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People sadly have a hatred for all of God's laws, not just ten of them. All of God's righteous laws are eternal (Psalms 119:160), so none of them will ever be done away with. In Romans 3:21-22, the Law and the Prophets testify that the righteousness of God comes through faith in Christ for all who believe, so this has always been the one and only of becoming saved. None of God's laws were given as a means of earning our salvation, so they can't be done away with for a purpose that they never had. In 1 John 3:10, those who do not practice righteousness in obedience to God's law are not children of God, which is precisely because God's laws are His instructions for what it looks like to be a child of God. A child of God is a knock off the old block in having the same character traits and nature, and God's law is His instructions for what it looks like to express His character traits or nature, which is why the Bible often describes the character traits of God in the same terms as it describes the character traits of God's law, such as with it being holy, righteous, and good (Romans 7:12). Instructions for how to act in accordance with God's nature can't be done away with without first doing away with God.

Victor in Christ said:

When saved/born again/converted we are no longer in bondage to the law, but we must try to obey all of them. As we mature as a Christian we grow in grace through faith using the 10 commandments as a guide.

Paul, Peter and John explains the 10 commandments in great detail (The characteristics/traits a Christian must follow in their life, the 10 commandments unfolded).. We all fall short of the mark in this life. We all sin in thought, word and deed, so we're forever thankful to Christ our Saviour shedding his blood for our sins.

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The reason that God saved the Israelites out of bondage in Egypt was not in order to put them under bondage to His law so that he could save them out of bondage to His law, but rather it is for freedom that God sets us free (Galatians 5:1) and God's law is a law of freedom (Psalms 119:45), while it is it is sin in transgression of God's law that puts us in bondage (John 8:31-33). David said repeatedly throughout the Psalms that he loved God's law and delighted in obeying it, as did Paul (Romans 7:22), so God's law is anything but bondage, and the view that it is bondage is incompatible with the view that the Psalms are Scripture and therefore express a correct view of God's law.

Our salvation is not from the law, but rather our salvation is from sin, which is the transgression of God's law (1 John 3:4). In Titus 2:11-14, our salvation is described as being trained by grace to do what is godly, righteous, and good, and to renounce doing what is ungodly, which is what God's law was given to instruct how to do. Furthermore, verse 14 does not say that Jesus gave himself to free us from bondage to the law, but rather it says that he gave himself to redeem us from all lawlessness, so if we beleive in what Jesus accomplished on the cross, then we will become zealous for doing good works in obedience to God's law (Acts 21:20), and saying that Jesus saved us from bondage to the law undermines what he went to the cross the accomplish. In Ephesians 2:8-10, we have been made new creations in Christ for the purpose of doing good works, and again God's law is His instructions for how to do good works.

All of God's laws teach us about how to express God's character traits. For example, in 1 Peter 1:16, we are told to have a holy conduct for God is holy, which was a quote from Leviticus where God was giving instructions for how to have a holy conduct, so following those instructions is testifying about God's holiness.

Arc F1 said:

I see it as an update to the law. They weren't just done away with they were carried forward in a new light. This is a good example.

Are the Ten Commandments in the New Testament?

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In Deuteronomy 4:2, it is a sin to add to or subtract from the law, so the NT does not update it, but it does teach how to correctly obey it as it was originally intended.

Dave L said:

Love fulfills the law so Christians are not under it. Since love is the basis for the New Covenant. But we use it as a checkpoint for our thoughts and actions.

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Jesus said he came to fulfill the law in contrast with saying that he came not to abolish it, so you should not interpret fulfilling the law as meaning essentially the same thing. In Galatians 6:2, bearing one another's burdens fulfills the Law of Christ, but doing that does not cause us to no longer be under the Law of Christ. All of the laws given by God are examples of what it looks like to love God and our neighbor, which is why Jesus said that those are the greatest two commandments and that all of the other commandments hang on them, so they are all connected. For example, obedience to the command to help the poor looks like obedience to the command to love our neighbor, so if someone's obedience to the command to love does not look like obedience to all of God's other laws, then they are not treating that command as being the fulfillment of the other laws. Rather, love fulfills the law, so Christ are under it, and the New Covenant still involves following it (Jeremiah 31:33).

Ask yourself, how did Jesus teach the Jews to keep the Ten Commandments? See if you can answer this.

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Jesus set a sinless example for us to follow of how to walk in obedience to God's law, including the Ten Commandments, so he would have still taught full obedience to it by example even if he had said nothing, and as his followers we are told to follow his example (1 Peter 2:21-22).

Nova2216 said:

The 10 commandments were given to the Jews Alone (Not Gentiles). (Ex 34:27)

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While it is true that law was given to Jews, it was given to Jews in order to equip them to be a light and a blessing to the nations through teaching it teaching it to the nations (Isaiah 2:2-3, 49:6). Walking in God's ways is for everyone who wants to become a follower of the God of Israel, not just Jews. Christ set a sinless example of how to walk in obedience to God's law, and following Christ is not just for Jews, but for Gentiles too. Salvation is from the Jews (John 4:22), so there there is not much of a point in a Gentile rejecting the salvation and light of God's word because it was given to Jews to bring to Gentiles instead of being directly given to Gentiles. Our salvation is from sin and sin is the transgression of God's law (1 John 3:4), so there is no point in a Gentile wanting salvation from living in transgression of God's law while not wanting to repent and live in obedience to it by faith.

Christ was the END OF THE OT LAW. (Rom. 10:4) (2Cor.3) (Eph. 2:14-17) (Col. 2:14-17) (Heb. 8:6-13 ; 9:15-17 ; 10:9,10) (Gal.4:22-31)

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In Matthew 5:17-19, Jesus specifically said that he came not to abolish the law and warned those who would relax the last part of it or teach others to do the same, so saying that he ended the law is calling him a liar and disregarding his warning.

In Romans 9:30-10:4, the Israelites had a zeal for God, but it was not based on knowledge because they did not understand that the righteousness of God only comes through faith in Christ. So they failed to obtain righteousness because they pursued the law as through righteousness were by works in an effort to establish their own instead of pursuing the law as through righteousness were by faith, for Christ is the goal of the law for righteousness for everyone who has faith. In Romans 10:5-10, Paul quoted Deuteronomy 30:11-16, in regard to this faith saying that the law is not too difficult for us to obey, that the one who obeys it will obtain life by it, and in regard to what it means to submit to Jesus as Lord. So there is nothing in the context of this verse that even remotely suggests that Christ is ending his eternal law, but just the opposite.

All of God's righteous laws are eternal (Psalms 119:160), so Ephesians 2:15 couldn't be referring to any of them. God did not make any mistakes, so He had no need to break down His own laws. God did not give any laws for the purpose of creating a dividing wall of hostility, but rather God's law instructs us to love our neighbor as ourselves.

In Colossians 2:16-23, Paul described the people who were judging them as teaching human traditions and precepts, self-made religion, asceticism, and severity to the body, so they were being judged by pagans. This means that the Colossians were keeping God's holy days in obedience to His commands in accordance with the example that Christ set for us to follow and Paul was encouraging them not to let any man judge them and keep them from obeying God.

The principles found within the 10 commandments are restated in the words of Jesus. (Heb. 2:3) (Jn 14:26)

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Jesus set a sinless example for us to follow of how to walk in obedience to God's law, so he would have still full obedience to it by example even if he had said nothing, and as his followers we are told to follow his example (1 Peter 2:21-22). He was not in disagreement with the Father about which laws we should follow, so we have no need for him to have restated anything in order for us to know that we should still obey the Father. Furthermore, Jesus did not hypocritically preach something other than what he practiced.

To go back to the OT Law (10 commandments) is to fall from the grace of God. (Gal. 5:4)

Read more here.
Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth

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All throughout the Bible, God wanted His people to repent and to return to obedience to His law, and even Christ began his ministry with that message, so it would be absurd to interpret Galatians 5:4 as Paul warning us against doing that and saying that we will be cut off from Christ if we follow Christ. In Psalms 119:29, David wanted God to be gracious to him by teaching him to obey His law, so that was how Christ was gracious to us by word and by example. Paul's problem in Galatians was not with those who were teaching Gentiles how to obey God's law as if obedience to God were somehow a negative thing, but rather his problem was with those who were wanting to require Gentiles to obey their works of the law in order to become justified.

Nova2216 said:

The Lords truth.



We are under law today according to (Rom. 8:2) (James 1:25) (Gal. 6:2).

Ro 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus...

Jas 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty...

Ga 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

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In Romans 7:25, Paul contrasted God's law with the law of sin, so he equated God's law with the Law of the Spirit in 8:2 by also contrasting it with the law of sin and death, so the law that we are not under is the law of sin, not God's law. God is not in disagreement with Himself about which laws we are under, so the Law of Christ is the same as the Law of the Spirit and the Law of the Father, which was given to Moses. In Psalms 19:7, God's law is perfect, in Psalms 119:45, it is a law of liberty, and in Psalms 119:1, it blesses those who obey it, so when James 1:25 speaks about the perfect law of liberty that blesses those who obey it, he wasn't saying anything about the Mosaic Law that wasn't already said in the Psalms. Christ set a sinless example of how to walk in obedience to the Mosaic Law and did not hypocritically preach something other than what he practiced, so it wouldn't make sense to think that the Law of Christ was something other than what Christ taught.

The Spirit has the role of leading us to obey the law (Ezekiel 36:26-27), the Spirit has the role of leading us in truth (John 16:13), and God's law is truth (Psalms 119:142). Jesus set a sinless example of how to walk in obedience to the Mosaic Law, so he is the personification of the truth (John 14:6). In 2 Timothy 3:8, those who oppose Moses also oppose the truth, being of corrupted minds and disqualified in regard to the faith. In Romans 8:4-7, those who walk in the Spirit are contrasted with those who have carnal minds, who refuse to submit to God's law. In Galatians 5:19-22, everything listed as carnal works that are against the Spirit are also against the Mosaic Law, while all of the fruits of the Spirit are in accordance with it.

The 10 are in the NT - just not grouped together.