Sinners in Their Refusal, Responsibility and Retribution

Victor in Christ

Jehovah Tsidkenu
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Not watching an hour+ sermon.
You want to provide a short synopsis?

No. If you haven't 1 hour in the life that has been given to you, you really need to seriously think what path your walking blindlessly down into.
 
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I already seriously think about my path all the time and I've been very content with it for over two decades.

I give this proselytizing attempt a 0 out of 5 stars.
You can't get lazier than just dropping a link to an hour+ long video and then refusing to summarize it, especially when retribution appears to be a theme.

"I want to hear all about the divine retribution I'm facing for believing different things!" said no one ever.
 
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carry on regardless as a fool. Your choice

It just seems odd that I'm open to considering other possibilities and you call me blind then decline any request for explanation. But if a passive aggressive threat and insults is the depth of your beliefs, I will happily carry on and not give you or your religion a second thought.
 
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It just seems odd that I'm open to considering other possibilities and you call me blind then decline any request for explanation. But if a passive aggressive threat and insults is the depth of your beliefs, I will happily carry on and not give you or your religion a second thought.

The bible calls people fools multiple times. Its being foolish/blind in the spirit, not earthly stupidity. Obviously i don't want to be rude as you're already thinking that i know more than you. I don't regards earthly things, but spiritual wisdom is something you can never comprehend unless you come to the Lord Jesus Christ in earnest and true humility. Earthly temporal pleasures and wisdom come and go, spiritual wisdom through Christ is everlasting and eternal.

If you don't look to him in true faith, how are you ever going to know him fully?
 
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... but spiritual wisdom is something you can never comprehend unless you come to the Lord Jesus Christ in earnest and true humility.
I've heard this before. All I know for sure is that over the years I've received a lot of spiritual wisdom from spiritual trajectories other than the Bible. But than again, I don't know how to limit God down to a single entity, so maybe I'm just more open minded to the expanse of the Divine.
 
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The bible calls people fools multiple times. Its being foolish/blind in the spirit, not earthly stupidity. Obviously i don't want to be rude as you're already thinking that i know more than you. I don't regards earthly things, but spiritual wisdom is something you can never comprehend unless you come to the Lord Jesus Christ in earnest and true humility. Earthly temporal pleasures and wisdom come and go, spiritual wisdom through Christ is everlasting and eternal.

If you don't look to him in true faith, how are you ever going to know him fully?

If I say that I disagree and how happy I am with own spirituality and that I'm doing just fine trusting my own intuition, I suppose you'll tell me that I'm just deceived by Satan and demons and stuff like that, right?

Also don't talk to me about humility when you insist your beliefs are exclusively true while I'm happy to admit my beliefs are only a matter of personal faith.
 
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If I say that I disagree and how happy I am with own spirituality and that I'm doing just fine trusting my own intuition, I suppose you'll tell me that I'm just deceived by Satan and demons and stuff like that, right?

Also don't talk to me about humility when you insist your beliefs are exclusively true while I'm happy to admit my beliefs are only a matter of personal faith.

I'm not here to argue with you. Your own humanity is the problem, that is where sin is and its where Satan likes to keep you. He likes to make you think your wee world is fine and dandy, but.....notice one thing Satan never does say to you, " What's wrong with my soul, is it well with Jesus Christ? Satan won't be concerned for your soul, he knows he already has a grasp on it.
 
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John 14:6-7 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father (God) except through me. If you had known me, you would have known my Father also........"
I've learned that the expanse of Christ is not bound up and limited to a single point of expression. But that the Divine animates all of Creation, from the smallest atomic particle to the largest cosmic form and absolutely everything in between. And that is the entry to Oneness with the Divine.
 
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I'm not here to argue with you. Your own humanity is the problem, that is where sin is and its where Satan likes to keep you. He likes to make you think your wee world is fine and dandy, but.....notice one thing Satan never does say to you, " What's wrong with my soul, is it well with Jesus Christ? Satan won't be concerned for your soul, he knows he already has a grasp on it.

Satan doesn't say anything to me because he doesn't exist.
If my inherent humanity is the problem, then I would say your god is negligent, incompetent or possibly malicious. I see no indication he cares about my soul either.
 
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Nevermind I don't need a summary, it seems like same old spam we usually get.

After 10 years of this on the forums, I don't think it's spam.

I think the most compelling argument to consider Christianity really is that we will supposedly be punished in hell for the rest of eternity unless we adopt a set of 2000+ year old, unprovable beliefs because a god demands it.
 
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No. If you haven't 1 hour in the life that has been given to you, you really need to seriously think what path your walking blindlessly down into.

When engaging with people who have very different views from oneself it is very helpful to have the empathy to place oneself in the other's shoes.

Consider: Someone posting a link to a lengthy video, and when you ask for a synopsis, you are told the same thing you just said here.

If e.g. a Muslim said, "Watch this video, I won't tell you what it's about, and if you can't be bothered to even spend an hour of your time to watch it then it's obviously you have the wrong religion" Would that make you in anyway more amenable to spend an hour of your time to watch said video? Let alone make you amenable to the idea of abandoning your most cherished beliefs and convictions for another religion altogether?

Christ instructs us that we ought to treat others as we ourselves would wish to be treated. And so consider, is this how you yourself would wish to be treated?

I don't say this to shame or attack you, but to invite you to self-reflection on this matter.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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