Is Jesus The Son of God?

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Question, how do people understand the term "Son of God"? Is it literal? Is it an expression? How do people here understand "Son of God"

The terms "father" and "son" do not have the earthly meaning. What they mean is that the second person of Trinity is obedient to the first person of Trinity.
 
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Fully God, fully man.

Could you explain this statement as to how this is possible? Often in the English language God is referred to as The Creator. Now this statement above when I look at it just does not make any sense, and I will explain why. Now there are 2 types of existence -

1: self-existent - existence but not as a result of creation, simply is
2: existence as a result of being created. And man is a created being.

So how can you be both a Self-Existent Being and at the same time be a created being? That just does not make any sense.
 
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Does it say Mary had children other than Jesus?
In my opinion, yes, judge for yourself...see Matthew 12:46-47:
46 While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him. 47 Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.”
...and...
Matthew 13:54-56:
55 “Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother’s name Mary, and aren’t his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas? 56 Aren’t all his sisters with us?
 
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I think Mary served as an incubator ... that is God performed a miracle within her to conceive our savior to be born in the form (likeness) of a man. That is ... Jesus wasn't biological to Mary in any way.

Philippians 2
King James Bible
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

Isiah 7:14
Berean Study Bible
Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and she will call Him Immanuel.

and yes Jesus is the begotten son - has the very same nature as the Father.

Colossians 1:15
The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.

John 14:9

Berean Literal Bible
Jesus says to him, "Am I with you so long a time, and you have not known Me, Philip? The one having seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?
 
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In my opinion, yes, judge for yourself...see Matthew 12:46-47:
46 While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him. 47 Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.”
...and...
Matthew 13:54-56:
55 “Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother’s name Mary, and aren’t his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas? 56 Aren’t all his sisters with us?

This has already been addressed in this thread but, "brothers" in this context does not necessarily mean siblings -it also imply "cousins" because there was no equivalent term in Greek.

Early theologians, quoting first hand or second hand eye witness of Jesus' life, recorded that Jesus was the only child of Mary. It was widely believed that "brothers" in these context were children of Joseph from his previous marriage.
 
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I think Mary served as an incubator ... that is God performed a miracle within her to conceive our savior to be born in the form (likeness) of a man. That is ... Jesus wasn't biological to Mary in any way.

Philippians 2
King James Bible
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

Isiah 7:14
Berean Study Bible
Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and she will call Him Immanuel.

and yes Jesus is the begotten son - has the very same nature as the Father.

Colossians 1:15
The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.

John 14:9

Berean Literal Bible
Jesus says to him, "Am I with you so long a time, and you have not known Me, Philip? The one having seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?
Jesus was true God and True man...he acquired His humanity through Mary. Jesus as Savior had to take on flesh to fulfill perfectly the LAW for us and save us from what was held against us and our salvation....in this way He reversed the curse...see the first chapters of Romans.
 
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This has already been addressed in this thread but, "brothers" in this context does not necessarily mean siblings -it also imply "cousins" because there was no equivalent term in Greek.

Early theologians, quoting first hand or second hand eye witness of Jesus' life, recorded that Jesus was the only child of Mary. It was widely believed that "brothers" in these context were children of Joseph from his previous marriage.
I quoted ,...and sisters
The Only you are speaking of is probably in reference to the time of Christ's birth. But, as I say, you be the judge.
 
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As a side note, I think we can barely grasp what Jesus' death meant for him. I know we're all discussing here the relationship between Jesus (the Son) and the Father, and now remember what Jesus said when He hang on that cross to pay for our disobedience. "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" Do you understand? Jesus bore the punishment for our sins! The punishment for sin is separation from God! The Son, God Himself, being with the Father in all eternity, since before creation even, was separated from the Father in this very moment.
Someone mentioned fingers to visualize the difference between separation and distinction. In this moment, when Jesus died on that cross, it was separation. It was painful. It was different to what it used to be in eternity, to what it was supposed to be! Jesus bearing the punishment for sin in our place meant for Him to be forsaken by God Himself.
 
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