Minneapolis demands full payment of taxes before business destroyed by rioters can rebuild.

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Landscape of rubble persists as Minneapolis demands taxes in exchange for permits

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In Minneapolis, on a desolate lot where Don Blyly’s bookstore stood before being destroyed in the May riots, two men finish their cigarettes and then walk through a dangerous landscape filled with slippery debris and sharp objects. The city won’t let Blyly haul away his wreckage without a permit, and he can’t get a contractor to tell him how much it will cost to rebuild the store until that happens.
The Democratic lead city remains with piles of rubble, preventing the debris caused by riots from being removed until the business owners pony up their taxes. Another blow to minority run businesses be members of the Democratic party. First their businesses are destroyed by rioters and the city leadership does nothing to prevent it, then they are hit again by taxes before they can even clean the debris.

How long before it becomes a health hazard?
 

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Sheesh! As if Republicans would do any differently.

Insurance should cover the cost of rebuilding. Business owners should be insured. If they rent the buildings, their landlords should be insured, and hopefully they have tenants' insurance for their inventory.

Even if a building is burned to the ground, taxes are due--but the assessed valuation of a damaged property is far lower, and therefore the property taxes should be far lower.

In terms of services the city normally provides--street sweeping, trash pickup, etc., the city should live up to its part of the contract as well.
 
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Amazing how Republicans suddenly start caring about minorities and working people when it’s the Democrats in charge of something. Didn’t see much of that in the years of a fully red congress and administration.
 
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Amazing how Republicans suddenly start caring about minorities and working people when it’s the Democrats in charge of something. Didn’t see much of that in the years of a fully red congress and administration.

I am a minority.
 
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And? I was talking about the Republican Party, not individual supporters.


It was the Republican Party that removes the Obama Small business regulations. Something that effected minority businesses.

It was the President and the Republican party that initiated OpportunityZones that Pumped hundreds of millions of dollars into minority owned businesses.

It was the President and the Republican Party that cut taxes and helped minority owned businesses with extra working Capital.

It was the Republican Party who brought the slowest economics recover in US History to historic low unemployment numbers before covid

It was the Republican Party that ended the Obama Tax on poor and middle class people who couldn’t afford his healthcare that drove up costs 400%.

It was the Republican Party that got 7,000,000 minorities off food stamps.

I am aware of what the Republican Party has done for minorities.

I just don’t fall for the Democratic propaganda, nor their propaganda machine.
 
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It was the Republican Party that removes the Obama Small business regulations. Something that effected minority businesses.

It was the President and the Republican party that initiated OpportunityZones that Pumped hundreds of millions of dollars into minority owned businesses.

It was the President and the Republican Party that cut taxes and helped minority owned businesses with extra working Capital.

It was the Republican Party who brought the slowest economics recover in US History to historic low unemployment numbers before covid

It was the Republican Party that ended the Obama Tax on poor and middle class people who couldn’t afford his healthcare that drove up costs 400%.

It was the Republican Party that got 7,000,000 minorities off food stamps.

I am aware of what the Republican Party has done for minorities.

I just don’t fall for the Democratic propaganda, nor their propaganda machine.



And the party that gave former slaves the vote.. but the lefts brain washed masses will never admit that
 
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Sheesh! As if Republicans would do any differently.

Insurance should cover the cost of rebuilding. Business owners should be insured. If they rent the buildings, their landlords should be insured, and hopefully they have tenants' insurance for their inventory.

Even if a building is burned to the ground, taxes are due--but the assessed valuation of a damaged property is far lower, and therefore the property taxes should be far lower.

We must have been reading 2 different articles:
"In Minneapolis, on a desolate lot where Don Blyly’s bookstore stood before being destroyed in the May riots, two men finish their cigarettes and then walk through a dangerous landscape filled with slippery debris and sharp objects. The city won’t let Blyly haul away his wreckage without a permit, and he can’t get a contractor to tell him how much it will cost to rebuild the store until that happens."

Which means the insurance company won't pay out until they know what the replacement cost is....pretty much like your homeowners insurance....assuming you are astute enough to have replacement cost guarantee?
 
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It was the Republican Party that removes the Obama Small business regulations. Something that effected minority businesses.

It was the President and the Republican party that initiated OpportunityZones that Pumped hundreds of millions of dollars into minority owned businesses.

It was the President and the Republican Party that cut taxes and helped minority owned businesses with extra working Capital.

It was the Republican Party who brought the slowest economics recover in US History to historic low unemployment numbers before covid

It was the Republican Party that ended the Obama Tax on poor and middle class people who couldn’t afford his healthcare that drove up costs 400%.

It was the Republican Party that got 7,000,000 minorities off food stamps.

I am aware of what the Republican Party has done for minorities.

I just don’t fall for the Democratic propaganda, nor their propaganda machine.

As of June Trump was polling at about 5% with Black voters. He might pick up around 20% of Hispanics. Maybe. If you genuinely believe that Trump is the candidate for minorities then November is going to be a real shock for you.
 
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And the party that gave former slaves the vote.. but the lefts brain washed masses will never admit that

The only people who think this is novel information are conservatives who only recently learned anything about 19th century American history. The rest of us have long been aware of how the parties have changed platforms over time.
 
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As of June Trump was polling at about 5% with Black voters. He might pick up around 20% of Hispanics. Maybe. If you genuinely believe that Trump is the candidate for minorities then November is going to be a real shock for you.

and vice versa
 
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Insurance should cover the cost of rebuilding. Business owners should be insured. If they rent the buildings, their landlords should be insured, and hopefully they have tenants' insurance for their inventory.

Would you be willing to sign off on a stipulation that applies the following rules:

"No business owner who files a claim with an insurance company to make repairs (or replace lost inventory) that were a result of a government-endorsed protests can have their rates raised as a result of needing to file a claim", just because they happened to be a random target of the "political expression" of the protesters who thought they'd avenge police injustice by snagging some free merch.

and...

"Moneys paid by insurance companies to repair damage must be refunded within 5 years via the discretionary budgets from local/state actors who allowed the events to transpire without intervening". Meaning, if you're a mayor/governor who openly endorsed the looting and property damage, or refused to do anything about it, you pick up the tab for it. Insurance companies (and their tens of thousands of employees) shouldn't be punished, financially, for that.


If anyone's answer to those stipulations is "No", then they are proposing something that will harm business owners.

Business owners shouldn't be forced to pay increased premiums as a result of filing a claim for that situation, and private insurance companies shouldn't be left holding the bag for damages because certain mayors and governors decided to pander to a PC crowd that's said, numerous times, "it's just stuff, it can be replaced, these businesses are insured"...as that will make every business owner's (who has the same insurance company as the impacted business) rates go up.

If their answer is "Insurance companies should have to foot the bill out of their cash reserves...why not, they're rich!", then prepare to see the insurance industry fall apart within 10-15 years and not be able to cover costs for legitimate scenarios.
 
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There is no indication that Minneapolis did njothing to stop the violent protests.

There is no indication that the people who started the violence were the original protesters. They could have been criminals taking advantage of the situation. They also could have been right wing agitators starting trouble to make BLM look bad.

There is no indication that sending in federal troops would have helped. As a matter of fact, in Portland the federal troops seemed to have exacerbated the situation. In addition, using tear gas and rubber bullets preemptively, as was done in Minneapolis and Washington DC and other places, generally raised the level of anger and actually caused uprising.

Insurance companies generally don't add provisos to their policies based on false narratives and conspiracy theories spread by people like President Trump. They realize that his record for telling the truth is less than abysmal. They know he is trying to sensationalize peaceful protest as a campaign ploy. Maybe he should be responsible. There's a first time for everything
 
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Insurance companies generally don't add provisos to their policies based on false narratives and conspiracy theories spread by people like President Trump. They realize that his record for telling the truth is less than abysmal. They know he is trying to sensationalize peaceful protest as a campaign ploy. Maybe he should be responsible.

Nice story...in the real world, when a business owner files a six-figure claim, their rates go up the following renewal period...and if they do it more than once, they run the risk of the insurance company failing to renew their policy and they end up being viewed as "high risk".

If I owned a shoe store, and rioters decided that should be the target of their "political expression" and they do significant property damage and wipe out my inventory, and I file a claim to fix it, my rates will go up (IE: more money out of my pocket for something out of my control)

If the concern is that "the people starting the violence and looting weren't the original protesters", perhaps the protesters and media outlets should make a better effort to distance themselves from that sort of thing instead of carrying water for them or saying "it's no big deal, insurance companies should pay for it".

There should be tons of viral videos showing legitimate protesters "giving the business" to the looters.

Instead of seeing BLM leaders saying things like this:
Black Lives Matter organizer calls Chicago looting 'reparation'

“That’s a reparation,” Atkins said. “Anything they want to take, take it because these businesses have insurance.”

She also criticized the Rev. Jesse Jackson, who took to Twitter earlier Monday to denounce the “pillaging, robbing & looting” as “humiliating, embarrassing & morally wrong.”

“Jesse Jackson has nothing to do with Black Lives Matter,” Atkins shot back.

“Jesse Jackson was not there for the creation of Black Lives Matter. Jesse Jackson can keep his opinions to himself.”


Doesn't sound like that BLM leader was under the impression that the looting was "right wing agitators trying to make them look bad"...they were endorsing it and claiming it was "reparations" because "businesses have insurance".

If Jesse Jackson isn't enough of an advocate, because he doesn't condone stealing, that highlights some of the mentality at play there.

Either that BLM organizer is woefully ignorant about how insurance works, or they're outright radical in their approach.
 
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There is no indication that Minneapolis did njothing to stop the violent protests.

There is no indication that the people who started the violence were the original protesters. They could have been criminals taking advantage of the situation. They also could have been right wing agitators starting trouble to make BLM look bad.

There is no indication that sending in federal troops would have helped. As a matter of fact, in Portland the federal troops seemed to have exacerbated the situation. In addition, using tear gas and rubber bullets preemptively, as was done in Minneapolis and Washington DC and other places, generally raised the level of anger and actually caused uprising.

Insurance companies generally don't add provisos to their policies based on false narratives and conspiracy theories spread by people like President Trump. They realize that his record for telling the truth is less than abysmal. They know he is trying to sensationalize peaceful protest as a campaign ploy. Maybe he should be responsible. There's a first time for everything


But Frey’s leadership is being questioned after police failed to quell several nights of rioting, fires and ransacking of local businesses that followed Floyd’s death. Frey, who pleaded for calm, also approved the decision to abandon the city’s 3rd Precinct station on Thursday night, surrendering it to protesters who set fire to the building.

The night the station burned, Frey appeared at an early-morning news conference after hours of criticism on social media for a police response that didn’t confront the violence despite the activation of the National Guard
 
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Amazing how Republicans suddenly start caring about minorities and working people when it’s the Democrats in charge of something. Didn’t see much of that in the years of a fully red congress and administration.

Well, it seems now it's the Democrats that need to show how they care doesn't it?

You don't allow your city to be destroyed, and then not help pick up the pieces.

Hopefully, it won't lead to a downturn in that city when business moves out completely. There isn't any incentive to stay at this point. That won't help their tax base, minorities, or anything else.
 
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Well, it seems now it's the Democrats that need to show how they care doesn't it?

You don't allow your city to be destroyed, and then not help pick up the pieces.

Hopefully, it won't lead to a downturn in that city when business moves out completely. There isn't any incentive to stay at this point. That won't help their tax base, minorities, or anything else.

You'd think it'd be people in those cities complaining about how terrible they supposedly are, but nope it always seems to be Republicans in completely different places who have the most to say. Funny that.
 
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You'd think it'd be people in those cities complaining about how terrible they supposedly are, but nope it always seems to be Republicans in completely different places who have the most to say. Funny that.

Sounds like someone isn't paying attention. Imagine that.
 
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You'd think it'd be people in those cities complaining about how terrible they supposedly are, but nope it always seems to be Republicans in completely different places who have the most to say. Funny that.


It is called empathy to suffering minorities. Perhaps a foreign concept in France, but common here in the US
 
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It is called empathy to suffering minorities. Perhaps a foreign concept in France, but common here in the US

No, its called trying to score points against your political opponents. The language used towards the citizens of Democratic run cities when there aren’t problems lack any kind of empathy or compassion in the slightest.

It’s funny that you’d try and play the empathy card against France though, a country where solidarity is an actual thing. They even have a day here where citizens work without pay (it’s voluntary, don’t worry) to help fund seniors welfare.
 
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