GOD'S COVID REVENGE?

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It’s mans definition - so it’s not murder if there isn’t a law against it.

you gotta call it something else
Man can justify anything and make it "normal" with a law or what have you but that doesn't mean that it's right. Murder is killing and abortion is killing so it's wrong to God. You can be safe from your government through some laws which defy the Bible but you won't be safe from Hell. Remember that.
 
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When it comes to issues of morality/ethics I use G
Man can justify anything and make it "normal" with a law or what have you but that doesn't mean that it's right. Murder is killing and abortion is killing so it's wrong to God. You can be safe from your government through some laws which defy the Bible but you won't be safe from Hell. Remember that.
Yeah - so you have to look beyond what man says and really chase after what pleases God. What does loving God mean and how do we Love God.
Calling abortion murder doesn’t serve God - it’s rhetoric. I don’t think using rhetoric serves God. Calling abortion murder doesn’t lower the abortion rate.
 
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Yeah - so you have to look beyond what man says and really chase after what pleases God. What does loving God mean and how do we Love God.
Calling abortion murder doesn’t serve God - it’s rhetoric. I don’t think using rhetoric serves God. Calling abortion murder doesn’t lower the abortion rate.
Since God formed us in the womb its murder.

Psalm 139:13-16
English Standard Version

13 For you formed my inward parts;
you knitted me together in my mother's womb.
14 I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made.
Wonderful are your works;
my soul knows it very well.
15 My frame was not hidden from you,
when I was being made in secret,
intricately woven in the depths of the earth.
16 Your eyes saw my unformed substance;
in your book were written, every one of them,
the days that were formed for me,
when as yet there was none of them.
 
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Since God formed us in the womb its murder.

Psalm 139:13-16
English Standard Version

13 For you formed my inward parts;
you knitted me together in my mother's womb.
14 I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made.
Wonderful are your works;
my soul knows it very well.
15 My frame was not hidden from you,
when I was being made in secret,
intricately woven in the depths of the earth.
16 Your eyes saw my unformed substance;
in your book were written, every one of them,
the days that were formed for me,
when as yet there was none of them.
Murder is “unlawfully killing”. So it’s not murder - it’s something else.
 
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Also - we don’t know if it’s life at that stage, so you’re using a “snuck premise” - which is more rhetoric.

Using rhetoric in this way is dishonest and will not help the cause - especially if your appeal is to morality
 
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Murder is “unlawfully killing”. So it’s not murder - it’s something else.
No Gods laws on morality supersedes mans laws. So in Gods eyes its murder. Just like when Herod put out the decree to kill every male child under 2 years old. Even though he was the law it was still murder according to Gods law.
 
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Also - we don’t know if it’s life at that stage, so you’re using a “snuck premise” - which is more rhetoric.

Using rhetoric in this way is dishonest and will not help the cause - especially if your appeal is to morality
I gave you Gods word declaring that it is a person in the womb at conception. You can believe His word or reject it thats your choice. Thats why harming a pregnant woman in the OT was considered murder.

Exodus 21:22-25
“When men strive together and hit a pregnant woman, so that her children come out, but there is no harm, the one who hit her shall surely be fined, as the woman's husband shall impose on him, and he shall pay as the judges determine. But if there is harm, then you shall pay life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.
 
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No Gods laws on morality supersedes mans laws. So in Gods eyes its murder. Just like when Herod put out the decree to kill every male child under 2 years old. Even though he was the law it was still murder according to Gods law.
Nope - you’re using falsehoods again. This misrepresentation of abortion will not help decrease abortion
 
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I gave you Gods word declaring that it is a person in the womb at conception. You can believe His word or reject it thats your choice.
Nope - that’s your own spin. You lost my trust when you tried to spin things - you’re misrepresenting the case with abortion and from what I can tell - it’s deliberate.
 
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Nope - that’s your own spin. You lost my trust when you tried to spin things - you’re misrepresenting the case with abortion and from what I can tell - it’s deliberate.
And you don't believe Gods word when He says its a human life in the womb
 
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I can care less if you believe me I quoted scripture thats BLACK and WHITE no room for grey.
Good - and I’ll be ignoring your spin on the scripture and you’ll be continuing to care less - so settled then
 
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It wasn't a question of not liking it.
But I don't agree that this illness is a punishment from God, nor that he is targeting older people. If God punishes us for our sins today by sending illness, then why did Jesus need to die?

It depends what part of jolly old Brittania you're talking about. :)
Some places have had a rise in Covid cases; a couple have had a further lockdown. Wales and Scotland are making their own rules about wearing masks, when schools go back, etc. There's been chaos, for some teens, over exam results. And football and cricket, which had been gloriously suspended for a few months, are back :(.
We've also had some pretty full on weather, for us; oppressive heat alternating with downpours and storms.

Apart from that; cushty.
Hi Strong, I like your post. I believe, if He feels it is right, God will punish us for our sins today; read Matthew 24 for instance, where end time pestilence is promised to us. Also, read Hebrews 2:14 for one of the more interesting reasons our Beloved had to die. That said, thanks for the update on Britain. My mother was a Stafford.
 
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Nope - that’s your own spin. You lost my trust when you tried to spin things - you’re misrepresenting the case with abortion and from what I can tell - it’s deliberate.

You don't understand that having something killed is not murder? I don't think it's misrepresenting but seeing it for what it is. Its taboo and not really much of a good topic to talk about either. God is supposed to be loved and feared, not disrespected and have his words taken out of context. When one thinks about a topic too much they lose sight of what he was saying in basic terms. The Bible speaks in basic terms for basic people to understand because everyone isn't a scientist. Is abortion "basically" not murder? If God wanted that to be okay then he would have mentioned that. And no, I'm not saying that you have to be stupid, you have to be simple. It's nonsense to throw in science and that somehow justifies abortion as okay because a heartbeat may be heard on ultrasound on this week and not that week or there's some sort of development on this month and not that month and etc. etc which leaves a window open to kill the baby here and not there because it won't feel pain or whatever nonsense say and they just go on and on about it.

God left that out because it makes one lose sight of what he was basically saying. He said that you should not murder. That's it. That's all he said. There's no need to throw science in it if you believe that's what he said. It's not misrepresenting. Stopping life from happening and developing is murder. It's just like the parables and the comparisons of Jesus. They're simple. It's that way on purpose. And no, I'm not trying to say that people who follow the Bible might be dumb, there's plenty of people who are smart and who follow the Bible. An average 5th century Alexandrian would easily defeat someone of today when in regards to philosophical debate because they were smart people. My point is that there's no need to make stuff complicated. My father used to say KISS - Keep It Simple, Stupid. I'm not calling you stupid but this is what my dad used to say to me when I made it hard to follow along with. Think in simple terms, that's all. Scientific study is irrelevant to this. It's God's words so there should be no arguing over what he said. Do not murder. Why? Because that is what he simply said, no exceptions. If it's a duck and sounds like a duck then it's a duck, no science needed because God didn't care to add it in the Bible either so why do I need it for my faith? Abortion=murder. Science should not enhance or detract from God. The Bible should be the only "enhancement" needed. It's sort of like when a parent tells you to do something then you do it. There's no reason why it should be challenged or questioned why it should be done or belittled or whatever, just do it. The parent knows why but it will cloud a child's mind with trivial reasons as to why they are doing the thing and they lose track of why they were doing it to begin with; it's pointless. There's a method in the madness you could say. God has it this way for a reason just as your parents might have. It's disobedience to disobey his word.

This is my take of course but I'd like to think that's why abortion=murder.
 
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Isaiah 54...

14“In righteousness you will be established;
You will be far from oppression, for you will not fear;
And from terror, for it will not come near you.

15“If anyone fiercely assails you it will not be from Me.
Whoever assails you will fall because of you.

16“Behold, I Myself have created the smith who blows the fire of coals
And brings out a weapon for its work;
And I have created the destroyer to ruin.

17“No weapon that is formed against you will prosper;
And every tongue that accuses you in judgment you will condemn.
This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD,
And their vindication is from Me,” declares the LORD.

Are we failing to approproate this ???
Thanks for the input Carl, but if your'e asking me something please be more specific.
 
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I am thinking this is satan and his kingdoms (of the world) using his science and governments to set people (especially the children and youth) more onto a trusting of science and government. And showing the weakness of the church now. By using the same institutions that many churches have embraced, government, science and media, to shut down the churches.

This may be the beginning of the down fall of the church in america, for the simple reason that the church fell into line, and under rule (of the gov) very easily. The kids are watching, the question is what will they think of churches as they grow older.
Interesting post Mr. Taylor. As stated in my post, we are 180* out from the 30's & 40's, but the apostasy of our generation is well documented in scriptures like II Thessalonians 2:3. One could say we are fulfilling prophecy.
 
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