The Word of God is "Timeless"

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God's covenants with mankind are not progressive, but One.
This is not understood from the perspective of a man of the earth, anchored in time.

John 3:31. He that comes from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly,
and speaks of the earth: He that comes from heaven is above all. [John the Baptist]
John 8:23. And He said to them, You are from beneath; I am from above.
You are of this world; I am not of this world.

Colossians 3:
1 If then you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ is,
sitting at the right hand of God.
2 Set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth.

When you are born from above, and apply the wisdom from above as you read Romans 4
and Galatians 3, and how Paul is teaching from Genesis 12 and 15 that he is presenting the
Gospel as the fulfillment of the promise and the oath made to Abraham.
When the Father spoke these words, the reality existed in heaven by that Word,
as it is the very power of creation.

Therefore, Peter could say:

1 Peter 1:
10 Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched carefully, who prophesied
of the grace that would come to you,
11 searching what, or what manner of time, the Spirit of Christ Who was in them
was indicating when He testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories
that would follow.

We hold this Truth as self-evident by the Holy Spirit:
"For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
Revelation 19:10
And so we have no difficulty, as did the Jews of Jerusalem in His day,
with comprehending His Words:
John 8:

56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.
57 Then the Jews said to Him, You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?
58 Jesus said to them, Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.

I hope and pray that this assists you as you pursue the Truth, only by the Spirit of Truth.
1 Corinthians 2:
9 But as it is written:
“Eye has not seen, nor ear heard,
Nor have entered into the heart of man
The things which God has prepared for those who love Him.”
10 But God has revealed to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes,
the deep things of God.
11 For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him?
Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit Who is from God,
that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.
13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which
the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual
.
14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God,
for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one.
16 For “who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct Him?”
But we have the mind of Christ.

1 John 2:

24 Therefore let that abide in you which you heard from the beginning.
If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, you also will abide in
the Son and in the Father.
25 And this is the promise that He has promised us—eternal life.
 
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God's covenants with mankind are not progressive, but One.
This is not understood from the perspective of a man of the earth, anchored in time.


That understanding is in contradiction to scripture.

(CLV) Gn 9:9
And as for Me, now I am setting up My covenant with you and with your seed after you,

When? "Now," at that point in time. This was a new covenant.

(CLV) Gn 9:11
And I will confirm My covenant with you: Never again shall all flesh be cut off by the waters of a deluge, and never again shall there be a deluge to wreck the entire earth.

This is a standing covenant; but it didn't exist from the beginning. If it had; YHWH would have withheld consideration of this covenant. We know that this is not the case.
 
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Yes, but the messages of things gone by also teach those of later generations.

So although the events have come and gone, their importance has not been erased. Not any more than the life of Christ could be considered relevant only to the first century, AD!
 
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That understanding is in contradiction to scripture.

(CLV) Gn 9:9
And as for Me, now I am setting up My covenant with you and with your seed after you,

When? "Now," at that point in time. This was a new covenant.

(CLV) Gn 9:11
And I will confirm My covenant with you: Never again shall all flesh be cut off by the waters of a deluge, and never again shall there be a deluge to wreck the entire earth.

This is a standing covenant; but it didn't exist from the beginning. If it had; YHWH would have withheld consideration of this covenant. We know that this is not the case.
Galatians 3:15. Brethren, I speak in the manner of men: Though only a man’s covenant,
yet confirmed, no one annuls or adds to it.
You can continue to see things from the earth, or "Set your mind on things above."
Your choice will define your comprehension.
James 3:
13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by good conduct his works
in the meekness of wisdom.
14 But if you have bitter envy and self-seeking in your hearts, do not boast and lie against the truth.
15 This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic.
16 For where envy and self-seeking exist, confusion and every evil thing are there.
17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield,
full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy.
 
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You can continue to see things from the earth, or "Set your mind on things above."
Your choice will define your comprehension.

I see things from the word of YHWH. That word comes from above.

(CLV) Num 25:11
Phinehas, son of Eleazar, son of Aaron the priest, reversed My fury from on the sons of Israel in his zeal- for My jealousy in their midst so I did not finish the sons of Israel in My jealousy.

(CLV) Num 25:12
Therefore say: Behold Me giving to him My covenant of peace;

Him? Him who? Noah? No. Moses? No. Everyone for all time? No.

This is a different covenant than the one made with Noah.
 
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I see things from the word of YHWH. That word comes from above.

(CLV) Num 25:11
Phinehas, son of Eleazar, son of Aaron the priest, reversed My fury from on the sons of Israel in his zeal- for My jealousy in their midst so I did not finish the sons of Israel in My jealousy.

(CLV) Num 25:12
Therefore say: Behold Me giving to him My covenant of peace;

Him? Him who? Noah? No. Moses? No. Everyone for all time? No.

This is a different covenant than the one made with Noah.
Let's start with the next verse to clarify the covenant:
Numbers 25:
12 Therefore say, ‘Behold, I give to him My covenant of peace;
13 and it shall be to him and his descendants after him a covenant of an everlasting priesthood,
because he was zealous for his God, and made atonement for the children of Israel.

Was this in fact a new and different covenant, or simply an acknowledgment of those
who are zealous for The Father's Will?
What was YHVH's original intent?

Exodus 19:
5 Now therefore, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be a special treasure to Me above all people; for all the earth is Mine.
6 And you shall be to Me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.

Does the testimony of Yeshua fulfill His Father's word?
John 6:63. It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I
speak to you
are spirit, and they are life.
64 But there are some of you who do not believe.

1 Peter 2:
4 Coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious,
5 you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood,
to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
6 Therefore it is also contained in the Scripture,
“Behold, I lay in Zion a chief cornerstone, elect, precious,
And he who believes on Him will by no means be put to shame.”
7 Therefore, to you who believe, He is precious; but to those who are disobedient,
"The stone which the builders rejected
Has become the chief cornerstone,”
8 and “A stone of stumbling and a rock of offense.”
They stumble, being disobedient to the word, to which they also were appointed.
9 But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people,
that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;
10 who once were not a people but are now the people of God, who had not obtained mercy
but now have obtained mercy.

Is the Lord making new covenants, or establishing an elect to fulfill His Father's Will?
John 4:24. God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.

The intimacy of the relationship desired with Adam was first confirmed through David:
2 Samuel 7:14. I will be his Father, and he shall be My son. If he commits iniquity,
I will chasten him with the rod of men and with the blows of the sons of men.
Hebrews 2:10. For it was fitting for Him, for whom are all things and by whom are all things in
bringing many sons to glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.
Romans 8:29. For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image
of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren.

2 Corinthians 6:18. I will be a Father to you,
And you shall be My sons and daughters,
Says the Lord Almighty.


As For Noah:
Genesis 9:
4 But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood.
5 Surely for your lifeblood I will demand a reckoning; from the hand of every beast I will require it, and from the hand of man. From the hand of every man’s brother I will require the life of man.


Hebrews 9:22. And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without
shedding of blood is no remission.

1 Peter 1:

18 knowing that you were not redeemed with corruptible things, like silver or gold, from your
aimless conduct received by tradition from your fathers,
19 but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot.
20 He indeed was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest
in these last times for you.

21 who through Him believe in God, who raised Him from the dead and gave Him glory, so
that your faith and hope are in God.

Revelation 13:8. All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written
in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Revelation 12:11. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death.

In conclusion, those who are In Christ and born from above have the most perfect comprehension
of the Father's plan for His relationship to man. If indeed His Son is the Lamb who was slain before
the foundation of the world, then the Word of God is indeed timeless.

Breaking the revelation of His Son into dispensations is an earthly enterprise of men of the earth.
From heaven, we must receive!
Deuteronomy 6:4. (TLV) Hear O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.
 
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Let's start with the next verse to clarify the covenant:
Numbers 25:
12 Therefore say, ‘Behold, I give to him My covenant of peace;
13 and it shall be to him and his descendants after him a covenant of an everlasting priesthood,
because he was zealous for his God, and made atonement for the children of Israel.

Let's start by acknowledging that this covenant was not made with Noah.
 
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Let's start by acknowledging that this covenant was not made with Noah.
Noah is addressed in the post. I began in Numbers 25 because that is where your post began!
Are you dictating my posts now? Rejected!
 
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