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Just heard This. So, this could be the coalition that stands against the AC or Beast?

Daniel 11, talks of the King of the North (Syria), coming against the king of the South (Egypt). This happened historically, but it prefigures what the happen in the last days by the one who is known as the Beast or Antichrist- who comes from the North of Israel. He is also known as the Assyrian... Interesting development Imo.

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Just heard This. So, this could be the coalition that stands against the AC or Beast?

Daniel 11, talks of the King of the North (Syria), coming against the king of the South (Egypt). This happened historically, but it prefigures what the happen in the last days by the one who is known as the Beast or Antichrist- who comes from the North of Israel. He is also known as the Assyrian... Interesting development Imo.

Trump announces 'Historic Peace Agreement' between Israel, UAE

On what basis do you conclude that the Syrian Wars will happen again?

-CryptoLutheran
 
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What is your proof that it will happen again, after it was fulfilled already?

The proof is just reading Daniel for yourself. From 11:21-chapter 12. It's all one prophecy, and is fulfilled when Jesus comes again-notice the resurrection.

Also, the book will be sealed until just before His return. Many can understand it now-because we can look back and notice everything has not been fulfilled historically.

Jesus told us to watch for the Abomination of Desolation spoken by the prophet Daniel, in Matthew 24, just prior to His return- His coming or parousia. He even told us to understand what it meant, So, Important stuff, unless you don't believe what Jesus taught us. ;)

15“Therefore when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), 16then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains. 17“Whoever is on the housetop must not go down to get the things out that are in his house. 18“Whoever is in the field must not turn back to get his cloak. 19“But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! 20“But pray that your flight will not be in the winter, or on a Sabbath. 21“For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will. 22“Unless those days had been cut short, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. 23“Then if anyone says to you, ‘Behold, here is the Christ,’ or ‘There He is,’ do not believe him. 24“For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect. 25“Behold, I have told you in advance. 26“So if they say to you, ‘Behold, He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out, or, ‘Behold, He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe them. 27“For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be. 28“Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather.
 
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On what basis do you conclude that the Syrian Wars will happen again?

-CryptoLutheran

See my post above. But the last days Antichrist or Beast king and kingdom will follow the same pattern, but of course bring to a close all the prophecies not fulfilled yet. :)
 
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Jesus told us to watch for the Abomination of Desolation spoken by the prophet Daniel, in Matthew 24,

There is a significant error in that statement. Jesus did not told US, but He told that to His disciples around Him.

The fact that we read a historical record like gospels does not mean its all about us.
 
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There is a significant error in that statement. Jesus did not told US, but He told that to His disciples around Him.

The fact that we read a historical record like gospels does not mean its all about us.

Yeah, but Jesus did not come back in 70AD, and the end of the age is not yet, and we have not seen the sign of His coming from heaven, so the the generation that will see His return must be the ones to whom he was telling what signs to watch for. And one is what happens in the Book of Daniel.

If we take your line of thinking to the logical conclusion, the gospel was meant only for them and not us. And I know you don't hold to that. :)

1Jesus came out from the temple and was going away when His disciples came up to point out the temple buildings to Him. 2And He said to them, “Do you not see all these things? Truly I say to you, not one stone here will be left upon another, which will not be torn down.”

3As He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”
 
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Just heard This. So, this could be the coalition that stands against the AC or Beast?

Daniel 11, talks of the King of the North (Syria), coming against the king of the South (Egypt). This happened historically, but it prefigures what the happen in the last days by the one who is known as the Beast or Antichrist- who comes from the North of Israel. He is also known as the Assyrian... Interesting development Imo.

Trump announces 'Historic Peace Agreement' between Israel, UAE

As part of Trump's agreement, Israel will cease West Bank annexation.

But dispensationalists believe that the land belongs to Israel.

So Trump's agreement must make Trump the antichrist.
 
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Yeah, but Jesus did not come back in 70AD, and the end of the age is not yet,

Jesus talks about several things in the Olivet Discourse. It's not all the same thing. Jesus talks about the destruction of the Temple, that happened in 70 AD, and the destruction of the Temple had nothing to do with Christ's future coming or the end of the age.

Notice the shift in what Jesus is saying in verse 36 of Matthew 24. He shifts the discussion, "But about that day..." The shift changes from talking about what will happen to Jerusalem, and the warnings about what to look out for there, to talking about His future coming in judgment. "But of that day and hour, no one knows" He says, and then goes at length to explain how this event will happen suddenly and without warning--there are no signs to look out for. It will happen when no one expects it, which is why He compares it to Noah's flood. Saying that in the same way as in Noah's time people were going about their business as usual, the flood came without any warning--in the same way, Jesus' coming will be sudden, without warning, two will be in a field and suddenly one is left, two working the mill, and one is left. Christ's return as the Judge of the quick and the dead--His glorious appearing on the Last Day i.e. His Parousia--is not something anyone can know or speculate, there are no signs preceding it.

When Jesus talks about signs, about what to look out for, He's not talking about His coming, He's talking about what will happen to Jerusalem.

Jesus' answer to the question of His disciples as to what signs will there be about His coming is that there won't be any, and that's why they--and us--need to be like the wise virgins who bring extra oil to watch through the night, that we need to be like the faithful servants who invest wisely with the money given and not squander it like the lazy servant. We need to be faithful to Jesus' call, to be doing as He told us--loving God, loving our neighbor as ourselves, being His disciples in this world. We don't know when He will return, and that's a good thing, it means that we can't become complacent thinking we can just sit on our hands and do nothing waiting for the end of the world--we are actually supposed to be living in the world as faithful servants of Christ, caring for our neighbors; that the Church is to be faithful, preaching the Gospel, administering the Sacraments, being Christ's body in the world.

There is an apocryphal story in which someone supposedly asked Martin Luther (I've read variations of this same story where it was some other person) what he would do today if he knew that the world was ending tomorrow. He said, "I would plant a tree." Again, the story is apocryphal, and some variations have someone other than Luther (it doesn't really matter here). But the point is even if the world was coming to an end tomorrow, we should be living today, and that means living for the long haul of life. Plant a tree, feed the hungry, care for the sick, visit those in prison, be concerned with your community, with the well-being of your neighbors, care about their good and their future, invest in people and in good things, because that is Christ's calling on each and every one of us. That no matter what our station in life, no matter what our vocation, we are Christians--live as a Christian whenever and wherever you are. Be a friend, be a father, be a mother, be a son, be a daughter, be a brother or a sister, be a doctor, be a lawyer, be a construction worker, be that person that says please and thank you to a random stranger that you may never meet again. Smell the roses, pet a puppy, share a glass of wine with a friend. Don't squander the gift of life which you have been given, don't squander the opportunity to be kind, loving, and to be a Christian toward others. Don't worry about tomorrow, for today has enough evil to worry about, Jesus says.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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How do you know that?

Where is He at? :scratch: He said He would come back after a real AD, great tribulation, and there will be signs in the Sun, Moon, and Stars, and then we (the whole earth) will SEE Him coming in the sky with Glory. Acts 1, and Rev 1, also confirms He will visibly come from heaven.

We see the same thing in Rev 6. Remember that old song, It is well with my soul? It was based upon this passage. The sign is the curtain/fabric of heaven being pulled apart and us seeing into it. And Lord will have the Glory/shining of the Sun, when all is black! This happens in the last generation before the end of the age.

Rev 1,
7BEHOLD, HE IS COMING WITH THE CLOUDS, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. So it is to be. Amen.

Rev 6,
12I looked when He broke the sixth seal, and there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth made of hair, and the whole moon became like blood; 13and the stars of the sky fell to the earth, as a fig tree casts its unripe figs when shaken by a great wind. 14The sky was split apart like a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15Then the kings of the earth and the great men and the commanders and the rich and the strong and every slave and free man hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains; 16and they said to the mountains and to the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the presence of Him who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb; 17for the great day of their wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”

Acts 1,
9And after He had said these things, He was lifted up while they were looking on, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. 10And as they were gazing intently into the sky while He was going, behold, two men in white clothing stood beside them. 11They also said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into the sky? This Jesus, who has been taken up from you into heaven, will come in just the same way as you have watched Him go into heaven.”

Mat 24,
29“But immediately after the tribulation of those days THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED, AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT, AND THE STARS WILL FALL from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30“And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory. 31“And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.
 
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As part of Trump's agreement, Israel will cease West Bank annexation.

But dispensationalists believe that the land belongs to Israel.

So Trump's agreement must make Trump the antichrist.

Some people think so, I don't. :) We will have to wait and see.
 
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As the present State of Israel and the Arab nations will all be gone after the soon to happen Day of the Lord's fiery wrath, the OP is irrelevant.

The Lord will send His fiery wrath at the moment the Islamic entities start their attack on Israel. Psalms 83 and 100 other prophesies.

As for any 'peace agreement' with them, their code of al-takyya, makes that a joke. it allows them, in fact it tells them to make treaties, etc with 'infidels' any non muslim; and to break them at any time it suits their chances of winning.
 
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15“Therefore when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), 16then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains.

Jesus' followers recognized that Jesus' message was for them. They heeded His warning, fled, and survived.

Do you think they were mistaken?
 
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Actually, Trump is the king of the north.
The king of the south(Iraq) is Assyria who will be destroyed after attacking Jerusalem.

There will be many countries who will attack Jerusalem at that time. The US wipes them all off the face of the earth.

You could say the king of the north is the Israel governments ace in the hole. The king of the north moves his embassy to Jerusalem for Israel. The king of the north devides the land for Israel. The king of the north causes Israel to rule over many.

Is there anything the king of the north wouldn't do for the Israeli government?
 
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Jesus talks about several things in the Olivet Discourse. It's not all the same thing. Jesus talks about the destruction of the Temple, that happened in 70 AD, and the destruction of the Temple had nothing to do with Christ's future coming or the end of the age.

Notice the shift in what Jesus is saying in verse 36 of Matthew 24. He shifts the discussion, "But about that day..." The shift changes from talking about what will happen to Jerusalem, and the warnings about what to look out for there, to talking about His future coming in judgment. "But of that day and hour, no one knows" He says, and then goes at length to explain how this event will happen suddenly and without warning--there are no signs to look out for. It will happen when no one expects it, which is why He compares it to Noah's flood. Saying that in the same way as in Noah's time people were going about their business as usual, the flood came without any warning--in the same way, Jesus' coming will be sudden, without warning, two will be in a field and suddenly one is left, two working the mill, and one is left. Christ's return as the Judge of the quick and the dead--His glorious appearing on the Last Day i.e. His Parousia--is not something anyone can know or speculate, there are no signs preceding it.

When Jesus talks about signs, about what to look out for, He's not talking about His coming, He's talking about what will happen to Jerusalem.

Jesus' answer to the question of His disciples as to what signs will there be about His coming is that there won't be any, and that's why they--and us--need to be like the wise virgins who bring extra oil to watch through the night, that we need to be like the faithful servants who invest wisely with the money given and not squander it like the lazy servant. We need to be faithful to Jesus' call, to be doing as He told us--loving God, loving our neighbor as ourselves, being His disciples in this world. We don't know when He will return, and that's a good thing, it means that we can't become complacent thinking we can just sit on our hands and do nothing waiting for the end of the world--we are actually supposed to be living in the world as faithful servants of Christ, caring for our neighbors; that the Church is to be faithful, preaching the Gospel, administering the Sacraments, being Christ's body in the world.

There is an apocryphal story in which someone supposedly asked Martin Luther (I've read variations of this same story where it was some other person) what he would do today if he knew that the world was ending tomorrow. He said, "I would plant a tree." Again, the story is apocryphal, and some variations have someone other than Luther (it doesn't really matter here). But the point is even if the world was coming to an end tomorrow, we should be living today, and that means living for the long haul of life. Plant a tree, feed the hungry, care for the sick, visit those in prison, be concerned with your community, with the well-being of your neighbors, care about their good and their future, invest in people and in good things, because that is Christ's calling on each and every one of us. That no matter what our station in life, no matter what our vocation, we are Christians--live as a Christian whenever and wherever you are. Be a friend, be a father, be a mother, be a son, be a daughter, be a brother or a sister, be a doctor, be a lawyer, be a construction worker, be that person that says please and thank you to a random stranger that you may never meet again. Smell the roses, pet a puppy, share a glass of wine with a friend. Don't squander the gift of life which you have been given, don't squander the opportunity to be kind, loving, and to be a Christian toward others. Don't worry about tomorrow, for today has enough evil to worry about, Jesus says.

-CryptoLutheran

Agree about don't being about our business. But Noah and his family did know. Lot and his family did know (Luke 17). Just like people knew about Jesus' first coming, even more will know about His second coming. We are foolish if we sleep and do not watch, esp. things that take place in Israel.

Also, Jesus said, day or hour only, then by giving the example of trees we can discern the season of His coming. We are to be on alert, not denying He could not come back in our generation, or denying the very signs He said to watch for, will precede the most momentous event in human history! :clap: That is Jesus' take on His second coming.

45“Who then is the faithful and sensible slave whom his master put in charge of his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46“Blessed is that slave whom his master finds so doing when he comes. 47“Truly I say to you that he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48“But if that evil slave says in his heart, ‘My master is not coming for a long time,’ 49and begins to beat his fellow slaves and eat and drink with drunkards; 50the master of that slave will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour which he does not know, 51and will cut him in pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
 
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As the present State of Israel and the Arab nations will all be gone after the soon to happen Day of the Lord's fiery wrath, the OP is irrelevant.

The Lord will send His fiery wrath at the moment the Islamic entities start their attack on Israel. Psalms 83 and 100 other prophesies.

As for any 'peace agreement' with them, their code of al-takyya, makes that a joke. it allows them, in fact it tells them to make treaties, etc with 'infidels' any non muslim; and to break them at any time it suits their chances of winning.

Yes soon, but that does not mean there are not various pieces of the prophetic puzzle that does not have to be put in place. So I do not believe irrelevant is correct. :)
 
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Jesus' followers recognized that Jesus' message was for them. They heeded His warning, fled, and survived.

Do you think they were mistaken?
Did Jesus come back then?
 
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Agree about don't being about our business. But Noah and his family did know. Lot and his family did know (Luke 17). Just like people knew about Jesus' first coming, even more will know about His second coming. We are foolish if we sleep and do not watch, esp. things that take place in Israel.

Also, Jesus said, day or hour only, then by giving the example of trees we can discern the season of His coming. We are to be on alert, not denying He could not come back in our generation, or denying the very signs He said to watch for, will precede the most momentous event in human history! :clap: That is Jesus' take on His second coming.

The fig tree isn't about His coming. Again, it's about Jerusalem.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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