Lion Bear Leopard

What are the four winds of the heaven represent?


God`s word tell us who the 4 winds of heaven are -

`These are 4 spirits of heaven, who go out from their station before the Lord of all the earth.` Zech. 6: 5)

Note winds and spirits are the same word in Hebrew - `rumach,` meaning, wind by resemblance of breath, spirit.



What does the great sea represent?


God says - ``the wicked are like the troubled sea.` (Isa. 57: 20)

What does the Lion represent?

The `lion` beast is one of the four kingdoms that emerge from the peoples of the world. We see in God`s word that it represents `rulership.` (Gen. 49: 8 -10) Jacob was prophesying concerning his sons and to Judah he called a lion and that he would hold the sceptre of rulership.


The Director of International Academy of Heraldry, O. Neubecker, and one of the foremost in this field, explains - `The appearance of a lion as a heraldic beast by no means indicates that it is part of the native fauna of that country: its use comes from the significance attributed to it. The lion is the symbol of Royal Sovereignty and the eagle the symbol of Imperial Power.`


In combination we have the initial clue to the identity of this first contemporary great power to emerge. A sovereign Monarchy which exercised imperialistic power over a substantial area of the world. ie. An empire ruled by a Monarch.



Eagle's wings represent?

Further revelation was given to Daniel. `As I looked its wings were plucked off.` (Dan. 7: 4)

a) The empire lost its capacity for imperialistic expansion.

b) Part of the empire became a separate nation with the eagle as its emblem.


Why do the Eagle's wings plucked and make the lion stand up upon the feet as a man?

`It was made to stand on its two feet like a man: and the spirit of a man was given to it.` (Dan. 7: 4)


Here is transformation. Until now the outlook and operation had been that of a powerful beast, imperialistic conquering, domination and colonising.


Why is man's heart was given to a lion?

Suddenly there is a remarkable change to the higher qualities of the spirit of man. In political language, co-existing in freedom, peace and equality with its former dominions. An empire becomes a Commonwealth of nations.


H.M.Queen Elizabeth 2 as head of the Commonwealth, broadcasted - `The Commonwealth bears no resemblance to the empires of the past. It is an entirely new conception built on the highest qualities of the Spirit of Man; Friendship, loyalty and the desire for freedom and peace.`

What does the Bear represent?

`The second beast like to a bear - to devour much flesh.` (Dan. 7: 5)

Without controversy and well documented, the bear is the national symbol of the Soviets. It was not by accident that this was the emblem chosen for the Moscow Olympics. A friendly and loveable little bear to be sure. Daniel, however, records it as a ferocious beast devouring much flesh.


Chronically the U.S.S.R was the second great power to arise in current end-time contention. It fits perfectly with the second confederacy of Daniel`s vision. It certainly `devoured` country after country, incorporating them into one monolithic dominion - behind the iron curtain.

Frequently God gives revelation of the future through one of His prophets, then confirms, augments or continues the prediction through another.

Ezekiel (38 & 39) enlarges our concept as he contemplates a mighty confederacy of independent nations. He specifies their geographical position relative to the nation of Israel. On three occasions he locates them in the `uttermost or extreme part of the North: (38: 6 & 15, 39: 2) There is only one great power that occupied that position - the U.S.S.R.


Then we had Perestroika and the coup d`etat which were the catalysts to provide a phenomenal and precise fulfilment in 1991 of a prophecy of 25 centuries by Ez. 38. Today we have Russia and its independent states from the break up of the U.S.S.R.


Why was the bear raised up itself on one side and has its three ribs in its mouth? What does it mean?

`It was raised up on one side, and had three ribs in its mouth between its teeth.` (Dan. 7: 5)


Metaphorically this represents 3 nations who have not previously been incorporated within the bear ie. behind the iron curtain. These now join the move into the Middle East. Ezekiel, in his predicted military confederacy, records exactly three such countries. They precisely conform to the prerequisites.

`Persia (Iran), Ethiopia and Libya.` (Ez. 38: 5)

What does the Leopard represent?

`After this I looked, and there was another, like a leopard, which had on its back four wings of a bird. The beast had four heads, and dominion was given to it.` (Dan. 7: 6)

In chronological sequence the third confederacy which emerged on the contemporary world scene was actually the European Common Market Bloc.


French heralds were the first to display Leopards as an insignia. Also the Knights of France and Charlemange the first Emperor of All Europe used Leopards on shields and on banners.

Obviously the heraldic use of `The Leopard` had direct European connotation.



What do four wings of a fowl represent?

I think it represents imperial power. The EU started off with 4 leaders and then over time expanded to 27 countries.


Four heads?

The four heads on this beast denote the multiplicity of authority or government who have united in common purpose. It is of importance that Daniel visualised this beast in its initial presentation. Six of the countries of Europe agreed to a commercial unity of purpose in a common market.

However, at the time of inauguration, three of these countries, Belgium. Netherlands and Luxembourg combined their representation and voting, into one affliliated entity called the `Benelux.` Thus the European Common Market commenced with exactly four authorities or `Heads,` France, Germany, Italy and Benelux. This was precisely as predicted.


What dominion was given to it?

`Dominion was given to it.` (Dan. 7: 6)

How meticulous and precise the prediction of Daniel. Each of the foundation member countries of the European Common Market was defeated and powerless at the conclusion of WW2. Authority as independent nations was granted by favour of the Allies. ie. Dominion was given to it.

You may be correct, but is is interesting that at least three of the creatures match current countries' animal symbols. Since these were prophesies of kingdoms to come, it kind of fits.

Beast 1: The US/Great Britain alliance of the last century GB=Lion US=Eagle
Beast 2: Russia=Bear
Beast 3: The leopard beast is the only one that isn't directly represented in the present, although some suggest this may be a New World Order style power rising as an amalgam of several sources. Also interestingly Pakistan and Afghanistan have leopards as symbols, so possibility of a Muslim alliance being #3 works.
Beast 4: The description fits a dragon. China=dragon.

Just interesting tidbits.

TribulationSigns said:

God's dictionary based on HIS WORD. Not my own.

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A picture of this language can be seen in a river that flows out of Eden (along with "the many streams thereof").

Marilyn C said:

What are the four winds of the heaven represent?


God`s word tell us who the 4 winds of heaven are -

`These are 4 spirits of heaven, who go out from their station before the Lord of all the earth.` Zech. 6: 5)

Note winds and spirits are the same word in Hebrew - `rumach,` meaning, wind by resemblance of breath, spirit.



What does the great sea represent?


God says - ``the wicked are like the troubled sea.` (Isa. 57: 20)

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What about the Greek? They have different names and meanings.

TribulationSigns said:

But, as I say, it's Spiritually discerned. Only the wise will understand that all is not as it seems. It is foolish who mook things they do not understand and go out and play with newspaper eschatology.

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Well that is an interesting end! Anyone who doesn't agree with your opinion or spiritual interpretation, do not understand and engage in newspaper eschatology! Is that supposed to intimidate people from learning the real truth!

But the bible gives us what the four beasts are so we don't have to feel the goosebumps on the back of our necks, read the entrails of chickens or however it is you come up with these mystical revelations!

An angel tells us what those four beasts mean!

16 I came near unto one of them that stood by, and asked him the truth of all this. So he told me, and made me know the interpretation of the things.

17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.

18 But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.

This mystical retranslating of eschatology is really out of hand!

Daniel 7 shows Babylon, The Medeo-Persian EMpire, Greece (and it subsequent breakup into four kingdoms) and Imperialism which started with Rome. The time of the Gentiles started with Babylon and ends with the Antichrist being defeated when Jesus physically returns. YOu do believe Jesus is going to physically return to earth don't you? Do you believe it as written in the Inspired Word or through some mystical revelation someone taught you!

19 Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;

20 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.

21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;

22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.

23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

Douggg said:

...and the little horn is ?

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Nero

Maria Billingsley said:

Nero

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Hi Maria,

Nero is gone and no kingdom of God becoming the ruling kingdom here on earth in Nero's day.

Questioning Brother said:

You may be correct, but is is interesting that at least three of the creatures match current countries' animal symbols. Since these were prophesies of kingdoms to come, it kind of fits.

Beast 1: The US/Great Britain alliance of the last century GB=Lion US=Eagle
Beast 2: Russia=Bear
Beast 3: The leopard beast is the only one that isn't directly represented in the present, although some suggest this may be a New World Order style power rising as an amalgam of several sources. Also interestingly Pakistan and Afghanistan have leopards as symbols, so possibility of a Muslim alliance being #3 works.
Beast 4: The description fits a dragon. China=dragon.

Just interesting tidbits.

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That`s great you are questioning. Now we need to remember that each of the 4 beasts are Great Powers and not just individual nations. Thus I see, (and was taught) that the EU developed into the great power that it is today along side the others.

I agree that China has the dragon symbol, however it is not as powerful as the UK, USA & the EU. They control the G7, the G20 & the UN. China does not. It is a middle power and part of the Kings of the east that are mentioned in Rev. 16: 12.

Marilyn C said:

That`s great you are questioning. Now we need to remember that each of the 4 beasts are Great Powers and not just individual nations. Thus I see, (and was taught) that the EU developed into the great power that it is today along side the others.

I agree that China has the dragon symbol, however it is not as powerful as the UK, USA & the EU. They control the G7, the G20 & the UN. China does not. It is a middle power and part of the Kings of the east that are mentioned in Rev. 16: 12.

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You forget one thing, the first beast has its wings plucked. This would fit with a collapse of the US occurring before the rise of the other three.

Douggg said:

Hi Maria,

Nero is gone and no kingdom of God becoming the ruling kingdom here on earth in Nero's day.

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Well my take is the following,( noting that I am a partial Preterist and believe Daniels vision has already been fulfilled. )

The fourth beast is Rome. The ten horns are the first two dynasties , Julio Claudian and Flavian. The small horn is an 11th Emperor who rises among them, he happens to be the last of the first dynasty, Nero. He is the first Roman emperor to persecute Christians after the fire in Rome. He is known as the little horn, yet the most vicious to the saints, because he was disgraced. He committed suicide after being declared a public enemy by the Senate.

My take anyway. Be blessed.

Maria Billingsley said:

Well my take is the following,( noting that I am a partial Preterist and believe Daniels vision has already been fulfilled. )

The fourth beast is Rome. The ten horns are the first two dynasties , Julio Claudian and Flavian. The small horn is an 11th Emperor who rises among them, he happens to be the last of the first dynasty, Nero. He is the first Roman emperor to persecute Christians after the fire in Rome. He is known as the little horn, yet the most vicious to the saints, because he was disgraced. He committed suicide after being declared a public enemy by the Senate.

My take anyway. Be blessed.

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Hi Maria,

Regarding the concept that the ten horns were the dynasties of the Julio Claudians, followed by the Flavians - I don't think that can be correct. Rome is correct I think. But not the ten kings as the Julio-Claudians and the Flavians.

Here's why.

The ten kings (the horns) give their kingdom over to the beast (let's say is Nero) to rule with the beast (Nero) for one hour. A short period of time.

12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

So we go to Revelation 13, to know what the one hour is and the beast in power for 42 months, to rule over the world.

4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

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And we can note in Revelation 17, the horns do not have crowns. At that time, in Revelation 17, the sixth king was ruling. (Julius Caesar, Augustus Caesar, Tiberius, Caligula, Claudius - fallen. Nero the sixth king currently ruling at the time).

Differently, in Revelation 13, with 42 months left, the ten horns have their crowns. So the span of their rule with the beast is 42 months.

Here is a my chart that shows the crowns on the horns of the beast (the end times Roman Empire - you as a partial preterist might say historic), but also all of the horns on the one head that represents the person, called the beast with the boastful and arrogant mouth.

I don't think the ten kings (the ten horns) are in place yet. But close.

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Maria Billingsley said:

Well my take is the following,( noting that I am a partial Preterist and believe Daniels vision has already been fulfilled. )

The fourth beast is Rome. The ten horns are the first two dynasties , Julio Claudian and Flavian. The small horn is an 11th Emperor who rises among them, he happens to be the last of the first dynasty, Nero. He is the first Roman emperor to persecute Christians after the fire in Rome. He is known as the little horn, yet the most vicious to the saints, because he was disgraced. He committed suicide after being declared a public enemy by the Senate.

My take anyway. Be blessed.

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According to Revelation 13 the little horn in question is meaning this same beast in question, but there is another major player as well, that being the false prophet. Can't have the beast without the false prophet. If you associate the beast with Nero, who do you associate the false prophet with? It would obviously have to be someone associated with Nero, someone that fits Revelation 13:11-18. But if you have no one in mind that is connected with Nero, that would fit the false prophet, why would you be concluding Nero is the beast? That's only half of Revelation 13, not all of Revelation 13. Revelation 13:11-18 is recorded in that ch for a reason, obviously. But if Preterists ignore that part, or don't have an answer for who the false prophet fits, why would anyone want to take them seriously about some of this?

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According to Revelation 13 the little horn in question is meaning this same beast in question, but there is another major player as well, that being the false prophet. Can't have the beast without the false prophet. If you associate the beast with Nero, who do you associate the false prophet with? It would obviously have to be someone associated with Nero, someone that fits Revelation 13:11-18. But if you have no one in mind that is connected with Nero, that would fit the false prophet, why would you be concluding Nero is the beast? That's only half of Revelation 13, not all of Revelation 13. Revelation 13:11-18 is recorded in that ch for a reason, obviously. But if Preterists ignore that part, or don't have an answer for who the false prophet fits, why would anyone want to take them seriously about some of this?

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The "son of the devil" as Paul described being Bar-Jesus.

Maria Billingsley said:

The "son of the devil" as Paul described being Bar-Jesus.

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This raises more questions than answers. If you are perhaps referring to 2 Thessalonians 2, the one sitting in the temple would be the beast, not the false prophet. But the false prophet can still be found in that ch, though.

2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

satan is not the false prophet, but that satan works through the false prophet in order to fulfill these signs and lying wonders.

2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

This is meaning the first beast in Revelation 13. 2 Thessalonians 2:9 is connected with the 2nd beast in Revelation 13. No matter how you look at it, I fail to see how Nero fits the beast in question?

Questioning Brother said:

You forget one thing, the first beast has its wings plucked. This would fit with a collapse of the US occurring before the rise of the other three.

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I did write about it in the op. The US came from the British Empire but became independent. That is the picture of the wings being plucked off.

DavidPT said:

This raises more questions than answers. If you are perhaps referring to 2 Thessalonians 2, the one sitting in the temple would be the beast, not the false prophet. But the false prophet can still be found in that ch, though.

2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

satan is not the false prophet, but that satan works through the false prophet in order to fulfill these signs and lying wonders.

2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

This is meaning the first beast in Revelation 13. 2 Thessalonians 2:9 is connected with the 2nd beast in Revelation 13. No matter how you look at it, I fail to see how Nero fits the beast in question?

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It only raises more questions because your not taking the view of fulfillment. My point of access is Daniel, Revelation is a reminder of the soon to be fulfilled in that time period.
Be blessed.