Has the Age of the Gentiles come to an end?

mkgal1 said:

2 Peter 3:8 ~ Beloved, do not let this one thing escape your notice: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.​

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Ike I said, he has it backwsrd
1000 years to us is as a day to the Lord.

Hence, those who take part in the first resurrection reign with Christ for 1000 years. Not a day to them.
It would however be a day to the Lord.A very special day.

shilohsfoal said:

Well, David ruled upon earth.

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Not in an everlasting kind of way (as you have pointed out).

solid_core said:

Ah, I see... you are trying to postulate that Peter was giving us some literal key to read the Bible in the sense that when its about days, we should read thousand years.

Well, its quite a shaky position. Peter was not establishing some prophetic rule, he was simply saying that God's timing is different than ours. Not just longer, but also shorter.

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A thousand is a specific number. It's not a few thousand or many thousands
It's a thousand. For instance I recieved a thousand dollar tip a couple months ago. It was a nice round number. $1000.00

The timing given in Revelation 20 is a very specific amount of time. In fact the Lord repeats it 6 times for clarity.

mkgal1 said:

Not in an everlasting kind of way (as you have pointed out).

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Well, David's throne was also in Jerusalem.
His throne was never in heaven because he never ascended into heaven and he never ruled Israel from heaven.
If someone is going to sit on David's throne it would have to be in earthy Jerusalem where David's throne has been. If someone's throne is established in heaved n then it's not David's throne.

1 Kings 2:11 The length of David's reign over Israel was forty years--seven years in Hebron and thirty-three years in Jerusalem.

shilohsfoal said:

Ike I said, he has it backwsrd
1000 years to us is as a day to the Lord.

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It's not a conversion formula. The text doesn't say anything about "to us". Both clauses refer to "with the Lord". IOW...."with the Lord...a day is like a thousand years and with the Lord a thousand years are like a day".

As Parousia70 mentioned earlier....we also have Psalm 90:4 uses a whole other comparison... a thousand years there are equal to a watch in the night (typically about 4 hour shifts).


Have you never said something like, "I was waiting in that line for a lifetime "? It's not literal language....and especially not a secret prophetic conversion formula.

Daniel's prophecy of 70 weeks is a timeline that can be followed to uncover fulfilled prophecy (like when the Messiah would come....be anointed....take away sin....and seal up prophecy before including the Gentiles into the covenant).

mkgal1 said:

It's not a conversion formula. The text doesn't say anything about "to us". Both clauses refer to "with the Lord". IOW...."with the Lord...a day is like a thousand years and with the Lord a thousand years are like a day".

As Parousia70 mentioned earlier....we also have Psalm 90:4 uses a whole other comparison... a thousand years there are equal to a watch in the night (typically about 4 hour shifts).

2 Peter 3:8 ~ Beloved, do not let this one thing escape your notice: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
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Have you never said something like, "I was waiting in that line for a lifetime "? It's not literal language....and especially not a secret prophetic conversion formula.

Daniel's prophecy of 70 weeks is a timeline that can be followed to uncover fulfilled prophecy (like when the Messiah would come....be anointed....take away sin....and seal up prophecy before including the Gentiles into the covenant).

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Perhaps you didn't understand what he said then.
His conversion formula was a 1000 years to God is a day to us or didn't you even pay attention to what he said?
Why did you not correct him and tell him it's not a conversion formula?

And it's this ki d of thinking as to why you don't know when the resurrection takes place.
This is why you don't know when the body of Christ will rise from the dead.

mkgal1 said:

It's not a conversion formula. The text doesn't say anything about "to us". Both clauses refer to "with the Lord". IOW...."with the Lord...a day is like a thousand years and with the Lord a thousand years are like a day".

As Parousia70 mentioned earlier....we also have Psalm 90:4 uses a whole other comparison... a thousand years there are equal to a watch in the night (typically about 4 hour shifts).

2 Peter 3:8 ~ Beloved, do not let this one thing escape your notice: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
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Have you never said something like, "I was waiting in that line for a lifetime "? It's not literal language....and especially not a secret prophetic conversion formula.

Daniel's prophecy of 70 weeks is a timeline that can be followed to uncover fulfilled prophecy (like when the Messiah would come....be anointed....take away sin....and seal up prophecy before including the Gentiles into the covenant).

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Hosea 6:2 KJV: After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.
Hosea 6:3 KJV: Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth.

Well, some of us understand what Peter is talking about.

shilohsfoal said:

Well, David's throne was also in Jerusalem.
His throne was never in heaven because he never ascended into heaven and he never ruled Israel from heaven.
If someone is going to sit on David's throne it would have to be in earthy Jerusalem where David's throne has been. If someone's throne is established in heaved n then it's not David's throne.

1 Kings 2:11 The length of David's reign over Israel was forty years--seven years in Hebron and thirty-three years in Jerusalem.

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Jesus sits on David's throne as the Son of David. Peter said that in his sermon on the day of Pentecost:

shilohsfoal said:

A thousand is a specific number. It's not a few thousand or many thousands
It's a thousand. For instance I recieved a thousand dollar tip a couple months ago. It was a nice round number. $1000.00

The timing given in Revelation 20 is a very specific amount of time. In fact the Lord repeats it 6 times for clarity.

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Psalm 91
5Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day; 6Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday. 7A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.

So arrow number 1,001 will find its target?

jgr said:

Psalm 91
5Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day; 6Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday. 7A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.

So arrow number 1,001 will find its target?

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Great point, JGR.

Just like the cattle on the hills in Psalm 50. Is God only sovereign over the cattle on the first 1000....but from 1001 hills and up, those don't belong to God? So every beast of the forest is God's....every creature in the field....but not all the cattle on hills? What's up with that?

Shilohsfoal said:

If someone is going to sit on David's throne it would have to be in earthy Jerusalem where David's throne has been. If someone's throne is established in heaved n then it's not David's throne

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That can't happen on earth. To believe that is overlooking the prophecies and what's written in the book of Hebrews.

The "son of David" is in the priestly order of Melchizedek.