What day do you believe is the “Lord's Day” in Revelation 1:10?


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I believe Jesus rose on Saturday, just before sunset.

I agree in part. I believe Jesus also rose on a Saturday. It's just I believe He rose at precisely 3:00PM because He died at precisely 3:00PM on a Wednesday (Which would perfectly be 72 hours or 3 days and 3 nights). Why? God is very precise about things.

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Becuse that'd be 3 days & nights since he died. In Matt. 28, we see He had already risen when the angel rolled the stone from the tomb entrance, & the guards fainted. The angel told the women He was already risen & was going to Galilee.

That does NOT counter the fact that Sunday became the Christian worship day. No one had seen Jesus rise, including the guards, who were "at peace" til the earthquake. No humans knew He'd risen til the angel told the women.

I would agree with what you stated here.
 
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I believe the Old Testament “Lord's day” is the Saturday Sabbath, but the New Testament “Lord's day” is the 1st day of the week. This does not mean the Saturday Sabbath is no longer the Saturday Sabbath. This just means that the new “Lord's day” is now the celebration of Christ's resurrection. For why wouldn't God not make the conquering of sin and death His special day for the New Covenant? It is afterall a new kind of rest.

I can certainly see what your saying in the difference between these days and can say there's nothing wrong with seeing it this way ... but I don't believe the old and new are separate truths to God, instead he builds upon themes that reveal things that have always been, unveiling it in a fashion where in the end they become summed up in one as one; never having been about a day, but what the day reveals.

Rest (whether it is a day or a year, or a year of years) ultimately depicts a truth that can be found (among other forms) in the name on a white stone, which itself like all things is connected with where John found himself on the island of Patmos as it is connected to a third feast one is called up to Jerusalem to keep or to where Adam heard in the garden where the voice of the lord God was walking in. Their types seemingly begin with the first week in Genesis as a day that is a thousand years and in the telling, a day where Adam was but into which he never entered.
 
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I believe all days are alike when it comes to worshiping the Lord; So I am not saying it was a command for believers to gather on Sunday. But in the early church, they did gather on Sunday. My point is that the Lord's day simply is Sunday because that is the truth we see in NT Scripture. That was the point of the Scriptures I posted (if you were to carefully examine them). But you are convinced of your own interpretation based on being an expert in the Greek. I just read and believe my Bible in the English with the King James Bible. No need to not believe what I read.

I'm encouraged to see you appear to be giving up some of the false doctrines you seemed to have believed earlier. A big help would be for you to get that false KJVO myth outta your head.

In other threads, I, & several others conclusively PROVED the KJVO myth is false. When we posted out points, you had no answers. You must ask yourself, "If the KJVO myth is true, why couldn't I answer its detractors ?"
 
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The Lord's Day is Sunday:

Revelation 1:10 mentions the “Lord's day.”

“I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, ...” (Revelation 1:10).​

Some believe this day to be Sunday, and others believe this day to be Saturday (i.e. the Saturday Sabbath, or the seventh day [last day] of the week). Let's examine Scripture to find out what the Lord's day is.

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Mary, Peter, and others witness the empty tomb:

The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.” (John 20:1).

6 “Then cometh Simon Peter... and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie,
7 And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself.” (John 20:6-7).

“...yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead.
(John 20:9).

10 “Then the disciples went away again unto their own home.
11 But Mary stood without at the sepulchre weeping:” (John 20:10-11).

“Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? She, supposing him to be the gardener,...” (John 20:15).

16 Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.
17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
18 Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.​

Here we see on “the first day” of the week (Sunday) that Jesus was already risen, and He shows Himself to Mary and tells her, “I ascend (rise) unto my Father.” Mary later tells the disciples that she has seen “the Lord.”

This is the Lord's day in that He had ascended or risen to the Father.

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On the Road to Emmaus:

Jesus (with his identity hidden) talked with two men on the road to Emmaus about His death and resurrection:

The two men said:

“Yea, and certain women also of our company made us astonished, which were early at the sepulchre; And when they found not his body, they came, saying, that they had also seen a vision of angels, which said that he was alive.” (Luke 24:22-23).​

Jesus said unto them:

“O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken: Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory? (Luke 24:25-26).​

Later, after Jesus revealed his full identity to them (in who He was) at dinner and departed:

The two men said:

32 “And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?
33 And they rose up the same hour, and returned to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together, and them that were with them,
34 Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon.
35 And they told what things were done in the way, and how he was known of them in breaking of bread.” (Luke 24:32-35).​

The Lord is risen indeed!
Jesus ascended or had risen to His Father!
This was on the first day the disciples discovered the empty tomb!
This is the Lord's day. The culmination or climactic high point of God's story in the salvation of mankind. He is risen! The Lord is risen! The Lord is risen indeed! The first day of the week! The Lord's day! Sunday!

For Christians would be known for gathering on Sunday or the first day of the week (Which is based on Scripture).

Of course, the Old Testament Sabbath was on Saturday, but the New Testament Lord's Day was on Sunday in celebration of Jesus' bodily resurrection, which the basis of our faith in him. The Old Testament or covenant was for the nation of Israel.

It's form has been done away by Jesus' death, as Colossians 2:16-17 says, "Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ."

The principles of resting from daily work and worship with God's people continue on into New Testament (covenant) times.
 
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The Lord's Day is Sunday:

Revelation 1:10 mentions the “Lord's day.”

“I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, ...” (Revelation 1:10).​

Some believe this day to be Sunday, and others believe this day to be Saturday (i.e. the Saturday Sabbath, or the seventh day [last day] of the week). Let's examine Scripture to find out what the Lord's day is.

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Mary, Peter, and others witness the empty tomb:

The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.” (John 20:1).

6 “Then cometh Simon Peter... and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie,
7 And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself.” (John 20:6-7).

“...yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead.
(John 20:9).

10 “Then the disciples went away again unto their own home.
11 But Mary stood without at the sepulchre weeping:” (John 20:10-11).

“Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? She, supposing him to be the gardener,...” (John 20:15).

16 Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.
17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
18 Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.​

Here we see on “the first day” of the week (Sunday) that Jesus was already risen, and He shows Himself to Mary and tells her, “I ascend (rise) unto my Father.” Mary later tells the disciples that she has seen “the Lord.”

This is the Lord's day in that He had ascended or risen to the Father.

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On the Road to Emmaus:

Jesus (with his identity hidden) talked with two men on the road to Emmaus about His death and resurrection:

The two men said:

“Yea, and certain women also of our company made us astonished, which were early at the sepulchre; And when they found not his body, they came, saying, that they had also seen a vision of angels, which said that he was alive.” (Luke 24:22-23).​

Jesus said unto them:

“O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken: Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory? (Luke 24:25-26).​

Later, after Jesus revealed his full identity to them (in who He was) at dinner and departed:

The two men said:

32 “And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?
33 And they rose up the same hour, and returned to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together, and them that were with them,
34 Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon.
35 And they told what things were done in the way, and how he was known of them in breaking of bread.” (Luke 24:32-35).​

The Lord is risen indeed!
Jesus ascended or had risen to His Father!
This was on the first day the disciples discovered the empty tomb!
This is the Lord's day. The culmination or climactic high point of God's story in the salvation of mankind. He is risen! The Lord is risen! The Lord is risen indeed! The first day of the week! The Lord's day! Sunday!

For Christians would be known for gathering on Sunday or the first day of the week (Which is based on Scripture).

Almost everyone agrees (whether they keep the 7th day of the week holy or not) - that Christ was resurrected on what the Bible calls "week day 1" and that this is what we call Sunday today.

But the question you ask in the OP is not "what day of the week was Christ resurrected". If that were the question I think you would find a lot more agreement in the voting poll.

What Bible texts speak of the following --
1. The Lord's Day -- only 1... and that is in Revelation chapter 1.
2. The "Holy Day of the Lord" Isaiah 58:13 -- (only one verse I think)
3. "The Son of Man is LORD of the " and then identifies a day of the week. Mark 2:28
 
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To all:

Again, there is a vast difference between the Lord's day mentioned in the Old Testament, vs. the New Testament.

Are you proposing that idea or do you have a Bible text for it?
 
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You may be interested in this CF thread here:

My New Chronology on the Passion Week

The Jews of Jesus' time called all special feast days "high sabbaths". Thus, the 2 "Holy Convocations of Passover Week" were high sabbaths. That fact throws many people off, as they believe this sabbath was the regular weekly one.

Now, I may end up agreeing with your 1500 hours resurrection time. I'll hafta study Scripture a little more.

(BTW, that's a little more proof that "Easter" in the KJV's Acts 12:4 is a goof.)

I believe the events occurred in the year 27 AD on our calendar.

Why?

Because Jesus was likely born in 6 BC. Proof ? Matthew says the tax was imposed while Quirinius was governor of the area, which was until mid-7BC. Now, it took time for the decree to reach Joseph, & more time for him to journey to Bethlehem with Mary. Besides that, when Herod learned of Jesus thru the magi, he sent out the decree to kill all Jewish males in his bailiwick age 2 & under, judging from the time the magi said they first saw the star. Shortly after, herod died, & that was in 4 BC. And we see that in that year, the paschal lamb was eaten Wednesday eve, & as Jesus' 'passion' occurred in the same day, that fits the Scriptural time frame.
 
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Yes, John 20:17 (first ascension) and Acts 1:9 (second ascension) makes sense to me.
Indeed, Jesus fulfilled the types. The first was anti-type Moses, and the second anti-type Aaron.

As Jonas preached about the “40 days” [Jonah 3:4] unto Ninevah, even as Jesus, not only having told about the 'generation' (about 40 years) and Jerusalem would be destroyed (AD 70), and he also in His resurrection remained for “40 days” [Acts of the Apostles 1:3] still preaching before finally ascending the second time [type Aaron; High Priest; Leviticus 8:12; Acts 1:9-11; Psalms 133:1-3; Revelation 12:5; the first being just after resurrection, then he came right back; and later after being resurrected and staying for 40 days, he ascends up, type Moses; Leviticus 8:10; John 20:17,19, etc] for good from the Mount of Olives, until He shall come back in His second Advent [Hebrews 9:28; etc].
 
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Where is the Scriptural command for gentiles to observe the sabbath?
Isaiah 56:1-8, John 10:16 to begin with.

I believe Col. 2:16 covers that stuff.

Colossians 2:16?

Hmm, have you considered the entire context?

Colossians 2:14-17 - Part 1


you can Download the entire Powerpoint to all parts (1-4), including part 4 (unrecorded) - here -

https://archive.org/download/colossians-2vs-16/Colossians 2vs16.pptx

Colossians 2:14-17 - Part 2


Colossians 2:14-17 - Part 3


Sticks & Stones - Do You Stone The Sabbath Breaker - October 19, 2019


O Foolish Galatians - Wednesday Night Prayer Meeting - 11 27 2019

 
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That is why I'm not dogmatic. :) But How do you explain why Jesus told Mary this, and what He told her to tell all the disciples before He saw them that very same night?
None of that seems peculiar. At least not moreso than some of the rest of the incidents involved with the resurrection.

For instance, why didn't she even recognize Jesus, thinking him to be the gardener? Why did two disciples walk with him for miles towards Emmaus and they not know who he was? But in the end, the verse you are asking about only says--with respect to the ascension--that it was going to happen. And none of us doubts that there was indeed an ascension.

While we are at it, I personally think that the notion of two different ascensions and one of them apparently only for a few hours is inexplicable, yet that is taken as true with no hesitation by some of us here.
 
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The Lord's Day is Sunday:

Revelation 1:10 mentions the “Lord's day.”

“I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, ...” (Revelation 1:10).​

Some believe this day to be Sunday, and others believe this day to be Saturday (i.e. the Saturday Sabbath, or the seventh day [last day] of the week). Let's examine Scripture to find out what the Lord's day is.

---------------------------------------------------------

Mary, Peter, and others witness the empty tomb:

The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.” (John 20:1).

6 “Then cometh Simon Peter... and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie,
7 And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself.” (John 20:6-7).

“...yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead.
(John 20:9).

10 “Then the disciples went away again unto their own home.
11 But Mary stood without at the sepulchre weeping:” (John 20:10-11).

“Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? She, supposing him to be the gardener,...” (John 20:15).

16 Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.
17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
18 Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.​

Here we see on “the first day” of the week (Sunday) that Jesus was already risen, and He shows Himself to Mary and tells her, “I ascend (rise) unto my Father.” Mary later tells the disciples that she has seen “the Lord.”

This is the Lord's day in that He had ascended or risen to the Father.

-------------------------------------------------

On the Road to Emmaus:

Jesus (with his identity hidden) talked with two men on the road to Emmaus about His death and resurrection:

The two men said:

“Yea, and certain women also of our company made us astonished, which were early at the sepulchre; And when they found not his body, they came, saying, that they had also seen a vision of angels, which said that he was alive.” (Luke 24:22-23).​

Jesus said unto them:

“O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken: Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory? (Luke 24:25-26).​

Later, after Jesus revealed his full identity to them (in who He was) at dinner and departed:

The two men said:

32 “And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?
33 And they rose up the same hour, and returned to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together, and them that were with them,
34 Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon.
35 And they told what things were done in the way, and how he was known of them in breaking of bread.” (Luke 24:32-35).​

The Lord is risen indeed!
Jesus ascended or had risen to His Father!
This was on the first day the disciples discovered the empty tomb!
This is the Lord's day. The culmination or climactic high point of God's story in the salvation of mankind. He is risen! The Lord is risen! The Lord is risen indeed! The first day of the week! The Lord's day! Sunday!

For Christians would be known for gathering on Sunday or the first day of the week (Which is based on Scripture).
Hello, I think the Lord’s day in Rev 1:10 is Not about a particular day in a week But is the day of Christ Revelation at the end of this age...

2Thessalonians 2:1-3...Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us whether by prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter asserting that the ‘Day of the Lord’ has already come.

Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way for ‘that day’ will NOT come UNTIL the rebellion occurs and the the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction...
 
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We worship on Sunday to commemorate Jesus" resurrection
Sounds like a confusion with Romans 6:1-11. Baptism is given for that purpose.

Besides real Christians worship God every day, but that does not negate the required obedience to God in His commandments (Exodus 20:1-17) and so to honour our Father in Heaven by keeping that which He commanded in Exodus 20:8-11; Hebrews 4:1-12.
 
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Indeed, He ascended on a Thursday, but liturgically the Ascension is not as big a deal as the Resurrection, particularly when we consider St. Elias had ascended previously, whereas no one had ever come back from the dead. The victory of our Lord over death is literally the Good News.
I guess I don't see what prompted you to think you needed to make this point. Yes, the Resurrection is the more significant event, from all that we know.
 
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Actually it doesn't. It fits the spiritual types include Noah coming out of the Ark. Check out this thread here:

My New Chronology on the Passion Week
No, actually it does as already stated. Simply posting a link to further error does not justify your position.

[the 7th Day Sabbath of the LORD thy God]
Jesus at Lazarus' house in Bethany [Mt. Olivet] – [John 12:1]

[the first [day] of the week]Jesus Triumphal Entry into Jerusalem, "the next day" from leaving Lazarus' house, Hosanna! - [John 12:12,13; Matthew 21:10; Mark 11:11], goes to the Temple, and after looking around, leaves, since it was close to evening back out unto Mt. Olivet.

[the second [day] of the week]
Jesus comes back, curses the fig tree, goes to the Temple, and cleanses the Temple for the Second [last] time of the Money Changers - [Matthew 21:12,13,17; Mark 11:12,15,16,17,19], and Jesus goes back out.

[the third [day] of the week]
Jesus comes back, the Fig tree is withered up from the roots, goes to the Temple, and has the final teachings to the Pharisees, etc - [Matthew 21:18,23; Mark 11:20,27].

This was the "two days" before the "Passover" - [Matthew 26:1-2; Mark 14:1; Luke 21:37-38, 22:1].

Jesus tells the Jewish nation, that their house is forever left desolate, no more fruit again - [Matthew 23:37-39; Luke 13:32-35].

Jesus said, that He still had to do "cures" and "cast out devils" "to day, tomorrow and the third day" and be done - [Luke 13:32,33]

Jesus had been "daily" in the Temple - [Matthew 26:55; Mark 14:49; Luke 19:47, 22:53; John 18:20]

[the fourth [day] of the week]
The "tomorrow" [Luke 13:32,33]

[the fifth [day] of the week]
The "Third Day" [Luke 13:32,33], being done.

[the sixth [day] of the week; preparation]
Gather twice as much, Christ Jesus the anti-typical Manna, Exodus 16:25,26
The "spices" "had been" [Mark 16;1] purchased sometime after the Crucifixion and before burial so that they could "prepare" [Luke 23:56] them to bring on the "first [day] of the week" [Luke 24:1], even as we see Joseph of Arimathaea doing for the linen - [Mark 14:46]

1st Evening Part - [Matthew 26:31,34; Mark 14:27,30]
1st Morning [Light] Part - [Matthew 27:21; Mark 15:1]

Aviv/Nisan 14th; Christ Jesus our Passover is Sacrificed for us - [1 Corinthians 5:7],

[the 7th Day Sabbath of the LORD thy God]
Jesus remained in the Tomb all Sabbath - anti-type Manna - Exodus 16:29,30
The Disciples were keeping the Sabbath according to the Commandment - [Exodus 20:8-11; Luke 23:54,56]

2nd Evening and 2nd Morning Parts - [Matthew 27:58-66, 28:1; Mark 15:42-47; Luke 23:52-53,54; John 19:38-42]

Aviv/Nisan 15th - Seasonal Feast Sabbath [First Day of Unleavened Bread, without corruption] - [Leviticus 23:5-8]

[the first [day] of the week]
Christ Jesus, preserved and Risen - Anti-type Manna - Exodus 16:32-34
3rd Evening and 3rd Morning Parts, Christ Risen and shown alive - [Matthew 28:1-10; Mark 16:2-20; Luke 24:1-29; John 20:1-23]

Aviv/Nisan 16th; Christ the Firstfruits/Wavesheaf Offering, Anti-Type Resurrection - [1 Corinthians 15:20,23].

Jesus was walking with the disciples on the Road to Emmaus on the "first [day] of the week", as the day was closing out, being "the third day since these things" were done [Luke 24:21],

[the second [day] of the week]
Jesus was still walking with the two disciples on the Road to Emmaus as the first [day] of the week was closing, and it becomes Evening - [Luke 24:29,35, etc]
 
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I guess I don't see what prompted you to think you needed to make this point. Yes, the Resurrection is the more significant event, from all that we know.

I do beg your pardon; I was seeking to clarify and expand upon your post for the benefit of members who might otherwise embrace what I consider to be a misguided Sabbatarian perspective, or who might make the mistake of thinking the Ascension was on Saturday.

By the way, fun fact: Ascension Thursday was one of only three holy days which John Wesley retained in his Sunday Service Book for North America (the others were, I believe, the movable holiday of Christmas, and the solemnity of Good Friday).
 
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