The Lord's Day is Sunday.

Bible Highlighter said:

Truth is not defined by denominations.

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Yeh, I expected something like that comment to come back. However, I said nothing about denominations necessarily having the truth. What I said that there doesn't seem to be any support for the two ascensions idea from any of the church groups which might be expected to agree if it's as clearcut as you seem to be saying it is.

The significance of that fact is that it's easy for any of us to say "Well, everyone else is wrong," but that stance doesn't make much sense.

If none the scholars of Christian history, Bible experts, linguists, all of them, somehow missed the fact that two ascensions are supposedly referred to "in black and white," right there in the Bible...

something's wrong with the theory!

Bible Highlighter said:

See post #37.

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In case there was some misunderstanding, my comment was to this effect: the verse you cited says he will ascend, but not that he will do so at any particular time. Therefore, it doesn't prove two ascensions, let alone an ascension on Resurrection Sunday.

Bible Highlighter said:

Again, stop and think logically for a moment. Why would Jesus tell Mary not to touch Him and then He tells her to tell the disciples He is going to ascend, and then LATER He allows Thomas to touch Him?

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Speculation, logic and rationalizations will not solve this problem. There are a number of possible answers, but the only fact that is undeniable is that he did not say he would ascend on that very day.

Obviously Jesus ascended after talking to Mary and telling her not to touch Him.

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That's not obvious at all. However, I do see why you believe as you do about this matter.

Bible Highlighter said:

The Lord's Day is Sunday:

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The Lord's day is every day.
He made 'em all.

Bible Highlighter said:

If you cannot think logically when reading the Scriptures then I cannot help you.

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Then I shall count on it.

Albion said:

I guess that's the thinking all right. It seems as though a few, at least, of the well-known denominations would hold that view if it were that obvious and yet, to my knowledge, none of them do.

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Yes, I hold to this, but am not dogmatic. It seems to tie up a loose end in between when He told Mary not to keep clinging to him, and how He later appealed to the disciples to touch and handle Him. And it could have to do with Him being our High Priest and sprinkling His blood on the Mercy Seat in the Temple in Heaven- which is the real thing and the earthly was a copy. (Hebrews 7-9)

11But when Christ appeared as a high priest of the good things to come, He entered through the greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this creation; 12and not through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood, He entered the holy place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption.

About which day, I think Sunday is it, but we also have these Scriptures for those that like Saturday.

5One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind. 6He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God. 7For not one of us lives for himself, and not one dies for himself; 8for if we live, we live for the Lord, or if we die, we die for the Lord; therefore whether we live or die, we are the Lord’s. 9For to this end Christ died and lived again, that He might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.


16Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day— 17things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.

Albion said:

As you yourself showed later in the post, it's not referred to as the Sabbath but as "the Lord's Day" which parallels Christian, not OT Hebrew, usage.


Acts of the Apostles 20:7 does, and it's definitely before the Apocalypse was written.

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Acts 20:7

7On the first day of the week we came together to break bread. Since Paul was ready to leave the next day, he talked to them and kept on speaking until midnight.

They had a meal together ... this verse says the 1st day of the week .... does not say the Lords Day.

Acts 20:7

There are some denominations that read Acts 20:7 as a proof that the "Lord's Supper" should be taken each Sunday morning! First notice that this was after the Days of Unleavened Bread (verse 6). Paul was preaching a farewell meeting, not on Sunday morning, but on Saturday night. It was after midnight (verse 7) that they broke bread because they were hungry. When they "had broken bread, and eaten, and talked a long while, even till break of day," Paul departed.

So this was just an ordinary meal!

The same expression "break bread" is found in Acts 27:34-35. "Wherefore I pray you to take some meat . . . he took bread . . . and when he had broken it, he began to eat." Also Acts 2:46: "And breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness." This could not possibly have been the "Lord's Supper" or, more properly, Passover, because Paul says that if we take it to satisfy our hunger we take it to our condemnation (I Corinthians 11:34). In that day, everyone "broke bread" at ordinary meals, because they did not have the kind of bread that we slice. Jesus broke bread because it was at the Passover supper, while eating a meal.

Acts 2:46
And day by day, attending the temple together and breaking bread in their homes, they received their food with glad and generous hearts,

1 Peter 2:21

Berean Study Bible
For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in His footsteps.

Jesus kept the 7th day Sabbath .... part of His footsteps ... and no one can change that.

same ole tactic of satan ....

Did God really say ....

Genesis 3:1
Berean Study Bible
Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field that the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden?’”

Did God really say ....

He made the Sabbath for Man?

Did God really say ....

Remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy?

Yes! He most certainly did!

Deny history ... deny scripture ... deny the footsteps and teaching of Jesus and the apostles ... up to you ... and others.

So so many .... in denial.

Running2win said:

Yes, I hold to this, but am not dogmatic. It seems to tie up a loose end in between when He told Mary not to keep clinging to him, and how He later appealed to the disciples to touch and handle Him.

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"Seems to be?"

Well, we could speculate all day, but you still have to ask why none of the many branches of Christianity--Catholic, Orthodox, Reformed, etc.--agree, if it's that clear cut? Or even likely.

Why are all those people wrong when they can and do read the same book of the Bible as anyone else can?

When any of us gets some insight, or thinks he has, that puts some of the Bible's information into a new light, we need to ask ourselves why we are alone in that conclusion? This is not to say that this approach applies to the great disputes of Christian history like Salvation by Faith vs Works, the nature of the Trinity, or etc. But when we come up with something new and we are on the wrong side of almost everyone, a double-check, taking a long second look, is warranted.

eleos1954 said:

They had a meal together ... this verse says the 1st day of the week .... does not say the Lords Day.

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Right you are. I was thinking of the fact that the early Christians referred to that breaking of bread as "the Lord's Supper" and it's referred to that way also in Corinthians.

Bible Highlighter said:

The Lord's Day is Sunday:

Revelation 1:10 mentions the “Lord's day.”

“I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, ...” (Revelation 1:10).​

Some believe this day to be Sunday, and others believe this day to be Saturday (i.e. the Saturday Sabbath, or the seventh day [last day] of the week). Let's examine Scripture to find out what the Lord's day is.

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Mary, Peter, and others witness the empty tomb:

“The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.” (John 20:1).

6 “Then cometh Simon Peter... and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie,
7 And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself.” (John 20:6-7).

“...yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead.”
(John 20:9).

10 “Then the disciples went away again unto their own home.
11 But Mary stood without at the sepulchre weeping:” (John 20:10-11).

“Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? She, supposing him to be the gardener,...” (John 20:15).

16 Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.
17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
18 Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.​

Here we see on “the first day” of the week (Sunday) that Jesus was already risen, and He shows Himself to Mary and tells her, “I ascend (rise) unto my Father.” Mary later tells the disciples that she has seen “the Lord.”

This is the Lord's day in that He had ascended or risen to the Father.

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On the Road to Emmaus:

Jesus (with his identity hidden) talked with two men on the road to Emmaus about His death and resurrection:

The two men said:

“Yea, and certain women also of our company made us astonished, which were early at the sepulchre; And when they found not his body, they came, saying, that they had also seen a vision of angels, which said that he was alive.” (Luke 24:22-23).​

Jesus said unto them:

“O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken: Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?” (Luke 24:25-26).​

Later, after Jesus revealed his full identity to them (in who He was) at dinner and departed:

The two men said:

32 “And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?
33 And they rose up the same hour, and returned to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together, and them that were with them,
34 Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon.
35 And they told what things were done in the way, and how he was known of them in breaking of bread.” (Luke 24:32-35).​

The Lord is risen indeed!
Jesus ascended or had risen to His Father!
This was on the first day the disciples discovered the empty tomb!
This is the Lord's day. The culmination or climactic high point of God's story in the salvation of mankind. He is risen! The Lord is risen! The Lord is risen indeed! The first day of the week! The Lord's day! Sunday!

For Christians would be known for gathering on Sunday or the first day of the week (Which is based on Scripture).

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It is astonishing to this latecomer to the LORD that so many attach themselves to this day or that day as the LORD's Day. This practice appears to, inherently build a basis for days that Sin is not such an Evil Thing. And like the Catholics and most other, man-made, divisions of the thing they call Christianity, Saturday or Sunday are days of forgiveness... sorry but BS! Every day of any week, to the true-hearted Christian is the Day of our LORD. We must learn to obey Whenever and Wherever we find ourselves. We are training for Holy Living in the Holy City of our Lord and Master!

Bible Highlighter said:

The Lord's Day is Sunday:

Revelation 1:10 mentions the “Lord's day.”

“I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, ...” (Revelation 1:10).​

Some believe this day to be Sunday, and others believe this day to be Saturday (i.e. the Saturday Sabbath, or the seventh day [last day] of the week). Let's examine Scripture to find out what the Lord's day is.

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Mary, Peter, and others witness the empty tomb:

“The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.” (John 20:1).

6 “Then cometh Simon Peter... and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie,
7 And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself.” (John 20:6-7).

“...yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead.”
(John 20:9).

10 “Then the disciples went away again unto their own home.
11 But Mary stood without at the sepulchre weeping:” (John 20:10-11).

“Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? She, supposing him to be the gardener,...” (John 20:15).

16 Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.
17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
18 Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.​

Here we see on “the first day” of the week (Sunday) that Jesus was already risen, and He shows Himself to Mary and tells her, “I ascend (rise) unto my Father.” Mary later tells the disciples that she has seen “the Lord.”

This is the Lord's day in that He had ascended or risen to the Father.

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On the Road to Emmaus:

Jesus (with his identity hidden) talked with two men on the road to Emmaus about His death and resurrection:

The two men said:

“Yea, and certain women also of our company made us astonished, which were early at the sepulchre; And when they found not his body, they came, saying, that they had also seen a vision of angels, which said that he was alive.” (Luke 24:22-23).​

Jesus said unto them:

“O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken: Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?” (Luke 24:25-26).​

Later, after Jesus revealed his full identity to them (in who He was) at dinner and departed:

The two men said:

32 “And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?
33 And they rose up the same hour, and returned to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together, and them that were with them,
34 Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon.
35 And they told what things were done in the way, and how he was known of them in breaking of bread.” (Luke 24:32-35).​

The Lord is risen indeed!
Jesus ascended or had risen to His Father!
This was on the first day the disciples discovered the empty tomb!
This is the Lord's day. The culmination or climactic high point of God's story in the salvation of mankind. He is risen! The Lord is risen! The Lord is risen indeed! The first day of the week! The Lord's day! Sunday!

For Christians would be known for gathering on Sunday or the first day of the week (Which is based on Scripture).

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There is no comparison as to what this day in symbolism means to humanity, as opposed to a literal day where no literal work is done on.

th1bill said:

It is astonishing to this latecomer to the LORD that so many attach themselves to this day or that day as the LORD's Day.

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It's an expression derived from the critical importance of the Resurrection. It's not something to argue over, and there is no question about which day of the week is meant when the expression is used. Which day is the Sabbath is a topic for debate, but the Lord's Day really is not.

th1bill said:

It is astonishing to this latecomer to the LORD that so many attach themselves to this day or that day as the LORD's Day. This practice appears to, inherently build a basis for days that Sin is not such an Evil Thing. And like the Catholics and most other, man-made, divisions of the thing they call Christianity, Saturday or Sunday are days of forgiveness... sorry but BS! Every day of any week, to the true-hearted Christian is the Day of our LORD. We must learn to obey Whenever and Wherever we find ourselves. We are training for Holy Living in the Holy City of our Lord and Master!

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He didn't say remember every day and KEEP it holy ... He said remember to keep the Sabbath Holy (something that already existed).. Holy because He made it Holy on the last day of creation and part of His creation. Has God changed anything He created from the beginning?

Are we to walk with Him daily ... of course ... but He did create a day that is special to Him and should be special to us also. Holy means set apart ... the day is to be set apart from all other days. Ignore the facts if you want.

Bible Highlighter said:

The Lord's Day is Sunday:

Revelation 1:10 mentions the “Lord's day.”

“I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, ...” (Revelation 1:10).​

Some believe this day to be Sunday, and others believe this day to be Saturday (i.e. the Saturday Sabbath, or the seventh day [last day] of the week). Let's examine Scripture to find out what the Lord's day is.

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Mary, Peter, and others witness the empty tomb:

“The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.” (John 20:1).

6 “Then cometh Simon Peter... and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie,
7 And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself.” (John 20:6-7).

“...yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead.”
(John 20:9).

10 “Then the disciples went away again unto their own home.
11 But Mary stood without at the sepulchre weeping:” (John 20:10-11).

“Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? She, supposing him to be the gardener,...” (John 20:15).

16 Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.
17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
18 Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.​

Here we see on “the first day” of the week (Sunday) that Jesus was already risen, and He shows Himself to Mary and tells her, “I ascend (rise) unto my Father.” Mary later tells the disciples that she has seen “the Lord.”

This is the Lord's day in that He had ascended or risen to the Father.

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On the Road to Emmaus:

Jesus (with his identity hidden) talked with two men on the road to Emmaus about His death and resurrection:

The two men said:

“Yea, and certain women also of our company made us astonished, which were early at the sepulchre; And when they found not his body, they came, saying, that they had also seen a vision of angels, which said that he was alive.” (Luke 24:22-23).​

Jesus said unto them:

“O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken: Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?” (Luke 24:25-26).​

Later, after Jesus revealed his full identity to them (in who He was) at dinner and departed:

The two men said:

32 “And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?
33 And they rose up the same hour, and returned to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together, and them that were with them,
34 Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon.
35 And they told what things were done in the way, and how he was known of them in breaking of bread.” (Luke 24:32-35).​

The Lord is risen indeed!
Jesus ascended or had risen to His Father!
This was on the first day the disciples discovered the empty tomb!
This is the Lord's day. The culmination or climactic high point of God's story in the salvation of mankind. He is risen! The Lord is risen! The Lord is risen indeed! The first day of the week! The Lord's day! Sunday!

For Christians would be known for gathering on Sunday or the first day of the week (Which is based on Scripture).

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Actually the Word Lord there does not have the definite article in teh Greek and is an adjective . It is describing the kind of day it was. So it would actually read like this: "I was in the Spirit on a Lordy day" The construct tells us it was an unusual or higher spiritual day than normal. It could have been a Tuesday!

The Sabbath, which isan agreement between God and the Jewish people is Saturday, the church has no specified "Lords Day". We worship on Sunday to commemorate Jesus" resurrection, but it is no command like Saturday was for the Jews.

Dkh587 said:

I don’t think it’s talking about a day of the week.

I think it’s talking about the Day of Yahweh that was foretold by the Prophets

“The Lord’s Day” is just a shortened way of saying “The Day of the Lord”. Hebrew doesn’t have contractions like we do in English.

we might say “God’s law”, for example, but they would say “the law of God”.

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Indeed.

The following terms are used synonymously in scripture:

The Grace of the Lord = The Lord's Grace
The Mercy of the Lord = The Lord's Mercy
The Vengeance of the Lord = The Lord's Vengeance
and
The Day of the Lord = The Lord's Day

To say the Lord's Day is something entirely different than the Day of the Lord is the same as saying the Mercy of the Lord is something entirely different than the Lord's Mercy...