Why Does Jack Chick Think Rock Music Is Evil?

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Wayne Gretzkey, one of the greatest hockey players to play the game... couldn't coach his out of a wet paper bag...

Ha...probably because he was too nice a guy. That job requires one to be very, very strong telling players what's going to happen in no uncertain terms. If you're so well liked by everybody you may not be willing to give that up.
 
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Ha...probably because he was too nice a guy. That job requires one to be very, very strong telling players what's going to happen in no uncertain terms. If you're so well liked by everybody you may not be willing to give that up.
Naaaah.... some people are great at what they do but cannot teach others how to do it...

I don't fault him... Many poor players are great coaches... My dad, never played the game.. but.. coached three teams from 20 to 0 first games to champions.... It's a gift.
 
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Let me tell you a little story. Happened to me way back in oh....77. Had just got saved a few months prior but felt tempted to go back and watch in concert one of the biggest name groups in the world, playing at a large football stadium some miles away. I mean I loved this group and always had. As they came in on stage and played the first note God pulled back the curtain and let me just say he let me experience what was really going on in the spirit realm in that place. I won't get into trying to describe it for I don't think I can but I jumped out of my seat and shaking like a leaf tried to get to the nearest isle.

I finally got to the stairs and navigated myself up them , out into the outer halls, and left the stadium. I waited by the van that my friends had owned and we ended up sleeping in the parking lot for reasons I can't quite remember. My friends asked me where did I go what happened to me that I felt the needed to leave. I couldn't even attempt to try to explain it to them...what I experienced scared me immensely.

The next morning they dropped me off home...I went up to my room beat tired for I never slept a wink....I fell to my knees within seconds of my walking in the room....and I asked God...."What in the world happened to me there! What is it Lord that you're trying to say?" I just flipped open the Bible which was laid in front of me and my eyes immediately went down to this verse in Isaiah 11:12

"Woe unto them that rise up early in the morning, that they may follow strong drink; that continue until night, till wine inflame them!And the harp, and the viol, the tabret, and pipe, and wine, are in their feasts: but they regard not the work of the LORD, neither consider the operation of his hands."

Well that pretty much summed it up. We had left for this other city early in the morning and all my friends were partying, drinking, drugs and the whole bit....not me though....I was a Christian but surrounded with everyone doing this.....and yes it started in the morning and to late into the night....yes Lord just like your word has said......the harp, viol, tabret the pipes...ah yeah it sure was party time for about the 50K that were there....But they regard not the work of the Lord, neither consider the operation of his hands.....Well Yes Lord that's right.....didn't see any of the great masses there lifting up their hands in praise to the Most High God! So God opened it up and let me experience the spirit realm of things that was really taking place in those moments .....and as I say I was stunned and fled the stadium. From that point on the only concerts I had attended were of a Christian type.

I'm really glad this topic was posted. I try to start my day with Christian music because it invigorates me, sets the tone for my day, and makes me feel a sense of hope. I have always been a fan of all types of music. A major concert buff. When I visit my teenage nieces we would hang out at the pool where they would jam the pop music from the radio. I never really thought much into it, or paid attention to lyrics because I'm not a big pop music fan. My whole perspective changed after I one day stumbled across a documentary called Out Of Shadows. It was really weird how I even found it because I wasn't looking for it. After watching it it opened my eyes to the messaging of the music industry, celebrity fascination, and the hidden messaging in Hollywood movies. It really blew me away after watching it because I had not realized it before. Now I am much more aware of lyrics and the movies that I choose to watch. I highly highly encourage people to watch it. YT continues to make it harder to find. But I included it below. Very much worth watching.

 
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I'm really glad this topic was posted. I try to start my day with Christian music because it invigorates me, sets the tone for my day, and makes me feel a sense of hope. I have always been a fan of all types of music. A major concert buff.

"Why should the devil get all the best tunes?"
Salvation Army founder Edwin Booth, when criticized for using popular music in worship services.
 
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Ya know Jack Chick, right? The guy who back in the day who made little comics with the theme of Evangelical Christianity. My dad gave me two of them around a few years ego, one of which I lost. The comics seemed cool and legit, right?

But, there's a problem.

Chick made a few comics mentioning how rock music is of the devil basically and we should stop listening to it, and, according to what I saw on Wikipedia, he believes witches invoke demons and spells into the music, basically, there's occultic stuff going on (which is practically my phobia).

So, I just wanted to ask this question:

Why does he think this? Is he right, or is he wrong?
Chick tracts present a paranoid, often counterfactual worldview. Ignore.
 
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I'm really glad this topic was posted. I try to start my day with Christian music because it invigorates me, sets the tone for my day, and makes me feel a sense of hope. I have always been a fan of all types of music. A major concert buff. When I visit my teenage nieces we would hang out at the pool where they would jam the pop music from the radio. I never really thought much into it, or paid attention to lyrics because I'm not a big pop music fan. My whole perspective changed after I one day stumbled across a documentary called Out Of Shadows. It was really weird how I even found it because I wasn't looking for it. After watching it it opened my eyes to the messaging of the music industry, celebrity fascination, and the hidden messaging in Hollywood movies. It really blew me away after watching it because I had not realized it before. Now I am much more aware of lyrics and the movies that I choose to watch. I highly highly encourage people to watch it. YT continues to make it harder to find. But I included it below. Very much worth watching.

Thanks for posting that. I will watch it later.
 
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Ya know Jack Chick, right? The guy who back in the day who made little comics with the theme of Evangelical Christianity. My dad gave me two of them around a few years ego, one of which I lost. The comics seemed cool and legit, right?

But, there's a problem.

Chick made a few comics mentioning how rock music is of the devil basically and we should stop listening to it, and, according to what I saw on Wikipedia, he believes witches invoke demons and spells into the music, basically, there's occultic stuff going on (which is practically my phobia).

So, I just wanted to ask this question:

Why does he think this? Is he right, or is he wrong?
It's probably because of a theory that the beats from rock music come from African voodoo drums. Because of that, he, and other KJVOnly Fundamentalists think that the rock beats somehow mess up and defile a person's mind because of these roots regardless of the lyrics or theme of the rock or modern music.
 
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I had a Christian friend who was professional jazz drummer. He stopped playing for the church because they would only let him play a few tempos and in very few time signatures. I remember the hassles his fundamentalist mother gave him and he was a grown man . My own father hated the fact that I loved to dance( not for religious reasons he was just a misogynist) . I decided long ago when I was a teenybopper that I wasn’t going to allow other people to tell me what to like or to dislike . That is such narcissistic behavior that you’d want to control another like that. Having said that I dislike rap mainly because it devolved into misogyny. The original raps were somewhat funny. But I don’t harass others for liking rap.
I did tell my kids that these people are performing and acting . The toxic and misogynistic behavior is mostly acting and they were advised not to behave like that

Yes. I relate. I had a similar trouble with wanting to study opera/classical singing at music college- my fatehr loves opera and classical music and was ok with me doing some performing at an ameteur level but he told me that to do it professionally would be wrong because it isn't glorifying God.

I dont want to sound conceited but the type fo voice God gifted me with, the range, the right kind of vibrato, the tone etc was suited for the classical recital platform at least if not the operatic stage and although I do enjoy worship- music i honeslty felt limiting myself to that kidn fo repertoire would be a bit of a shame in some ways.

But then again maybe I was beign arrogant? I wasn't myself walking with God as a youngster. My father was pretty legalistic and wrong (also very controllign and abusive in some ways) but sometimes I wonder was he wrong about this?

I do beleive God has no issue with any music style- it i slyrical content that matters. Of course, had my health stayed stable and I hd kept that voice I had and completed my studies I may have had to compromise by faith by singing roles of dodgy characters (many mezzo soprano roles require dressing in drag for example and playing a man or we seem to be often cast as witches or immoral women!!! ) so there is that side of things, I guess.

A nice compromise would have been just performing oratorio and sacred songs (actually my favourite repertoir aside from lieder) but would I have had much work? You have to take what comes, and that is assuming I ever succeeded as a singer in the first place! But as young woman I did chafe agaisnt my father's views- It was just one more thign that made me feel I coudl never be holy enough to be saved. That is why I hate legalism of any kind...
 
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re: Jack Chick- although his little comics terrified me as a child and I do find him a bit scare tacti-cy, I do admire the way he pulls no punches with the gospel. I also love the way he empahsises faith and repentence beign the way to salvation. I do find him a bit superstitious though- He published one comic called The Death Cookie which basically endorsed the view that particpating in a cathloc mass means you are doomed!!! I am not a fan of the RCC as an instittuition but I honestly believe there are many catholics who worship at an RCC who are nontheless born again and I will be very surprised to not see any catholics in Heaven.

I find the American Evangelical "catholics are evil" mantra rather tiring, am afraid. Is Jesus limited whom He can redeem?

So I honeslty would take some of JC with a pinch of salt. Love his take on the gospel message (although scary) but not so keen on some fo his more extreme views
 
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. Tusk ! Are you kidding ! I heard that then bought the album . Yes I know what tusk was referring to. I liked the creativity of the music . Just like I love the Habanera from the opera Carmen . Or Scarpia’s aria at the end of Tosca’s first act that points out how hypocritical and evil he is .

Amen!! so many christians scared of an African drumbeat?! is not God bigger than a drumbeat?
 
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I'm really glad this topic was posted. I try to start my day with Christian music because it invigorates me, sets the tone for my day, and makes me feel a sense of hope. I have always been a fan of all types of music. A major concert buff. When I visit my teenage nieces we would hang out at the pool where they would jam the pop music from the radio. I never really thought much into it, or paid attention to lyrics because I'm not a big pop music fan. My whole perspective changed after I one day stumbled across a documentary called Out Of Shadows. It was really weird how I even found it because I wasn't looking for it. After watching it it opened my eyes to the messaging of the music industry, celebrity fascination, and the hidden messaging in Hollywood movies. It really blew me away after watching it because I had not realized it before. Now I am much more aware of lyrics and the movies that I choose to watch. I highly highly encourage people to watch it. YT continues to make it harder to find. But I included it below. Very much worth watching.

Thats a really good documentary. So good i watched it twice lol

The part that really got me was when they mentioned how Disney movies traumatize young children because of the way one of the parents or a main character dies in every Disney movie

I barely remember the movie Bambi. Im 33 now and was probably 5 the last time i saw it. But over the years when i struggled with depression i would think about the sad music they played when Bambi's mom was killed

I remember the man from the video said the reason why Disney looks to traumatize kids is because it makes it very difficult for them to choose between right and wrong when they are traumatized as a child

Im finally getting stronger because of God but i still struggle with making the right decisions. Even as i type this a few of my sins are calling my name. I wont give in tonight but it gets tougher on the weekends
 
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I actually like heavy music but I do wonder about these verses though :



Your pomp is brought down to Sheol, And The Sound Of Your Stringed Instruments;
The maggot is spread under you, And worms cover you.'


"How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How you are cut down to the ground, You who weakened the nations! For you have said in your heart: 'I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation On the farthest sides of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.' Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol, To the lowest depths of the Pit.

• Isaiah 14 : 11-15



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Thats a really good documentary. So good i watched it twice lol

The part that really got me was when they mentioned how Disney movies traumatize young children because of the way one of the parents or a main character dies in every Disney movie

I barely remember the movie Bambi. Im 33 now and was probably 5 the last time i saw it. But over the years when i struggled with depression i would think about the sad music they played when Bambi's mom was killed

I remember the man from the video said the reason why Disney looks to traumatize kids is because it makes it very difficult for them to choose between right and wrong when they are traumatized as a child

Im finally getting stronger because of God but i still struggle with making the right decisions. Even as i type this a few of my sins are calling my name. I wont give in tonight but it gets tougher on the weekends

It's a good one right! Very informative and revealing. It made me realize how sick, and twisted the Hollywood industry truly is. Celebrities have become idols for millions - no doubt. The television we have today normalizes more wrong than right. The trend is teenagers being disrespectful to their parents or not obeying them. It has been for some time now. Since really getting deep into scripture this year, one of the common themes I come across is the importance of honoring and pleasing your parents (commandment five). Taking the Lords name in vain (commandment three)is in every show and movie.

The parts about Disney really got to me too. Oh yeah the part about trauma and the creepy hidden symbology and messaging. Disney is not good for children. I highly encourage people to do their own research. Disney World is Pretty messed up. I was shocked how blind I was to it. But back to music. After watching OutOfShadows it changed my perspective about the things I listen to. There is some great christian jams and I love to worship, and I still listen to music that is positive and encouraging. :)

I'm also getting stronger in my walk with Christ and struggle often. It seems like the enemy is working harder than ever to knock us off our path. It's hard. Reading scripture and studying it has brought me peace. The weekends are most deff the toughest. It's a silent war going on no doubt, but light always overcomes darkness. Another recurring theme I have found in the Bible.
 
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I actually don't believe it. Well I don't think there is anything innately evil about a beat that is.

I would say it depends on the context. When I was about ten I had one of those little electronic keyboards which had single key chords, I loved experimenting with the rythms and chord sequencing.

Whether certain beats / rhythms can alter mood, or generate a frenzy I would say one probably has to enter into it a bit.
 
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Whether certain beats / rhythms can alter mood, or generate a frenzy I would say one probably has to enter into it a bit.

I actually covered that in a phrase in the early post saying certain things are more appropriate for worship etc.

But the point of Manicheanism is worth noting, that heresy believed in literal material evil. Like evil as a kind of actual elemental substance, and the "beat is evil" seems to imply that sort of thing.
 
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I love it too and was going to point it out as an example of the fallacy. The basic drum beat is very African sounding, yet it is a marching song etc. which would normally be off limit with the anti-rock folks as far as something they would target.

Besides all that stuff, I think there is a bit of cultural prejudice concerning some of those old Jack Chick folks and their moral cultural crusades.


Look up dial the truth ministries drum beat.
 
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