Why We Can’t Believe in Aliens

Michie · Aug 8, 2020

There are discussions on numerous Facebook sites and blog pages about the possibility of aliens. Many Catholics and others who profess belief in Christ as God and man, Lord and Savior, believe in alien life on other worlds in this vast universe. The following paragraphs are from an unpublished Tower of Davidmanuscript titled: “Principalities and Powers of the Air: Ancient Gods, Aliens, Abductions, & U.F.O’s — The Deception of Demons.”

Some may ask: Would not God create other physical beings of intelligence to populate this vast universe? Why would the Church condemn such notions which appear quite attractive to us today? Well, the reasons why the Church has done so are fundamental to the content of God’s revealed truths to men: Creation, the Fall, the Incarnation and Person of Jesus Christ, and the necessary implications which follow from these revealed truths.

If there were aliens on other worlds, then a number of problems would exist which are contrary to these truths which God has formally revealed:

Adam would not be the first hominem;
That Christ did not die for these alien beings, for they are not fallen; or
A: That the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity did become incarnate on
their worlds (but then, how many worlds and how many times?)
and
B: that He also died for them there.

Number 1 must be rejected since it is a revealed truth of God than Adam was the first man, the first hominem (viz. a being composed of physical body and spiritual soul), from whom ALL hominem (i.e., physical beings with a spiritual soul endowed with the faculties of will and intellect) are descended. This is a solemnly defined dogma of the Catholic Faith (see below).

Number 2 must be rejected because God has revealed that all Creation was affected by the Fall. (cf. Rom. 8:20-22)

Number 3 ‘A’ must be rejected because Christ is only ONE Person (the Second Person of the Holy Trinity) with two natures, divine and human. He could not therefore have another (alien) created nature united to His divine Person, and He surely did not have multiple mothers.

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Why We Can’t Believe in Aliens

Romans 13:3 · Aug 8, 2020

Interesting piece, this was. I noticed that the comments section was entirely negative. That must be due to people giving due charity to his arguments.

Bobber · Aug 8, 2020

Michie said:
There are discussions on numerous Facebook sites and blog pages about the possibility of aliens. Many Catholics and others who profess belief in Christ as God and man, Lord and Savior, believe in alien life on other worlds in this vast universe. The following paragraphs are from an unpublished Tower of Davidmanuscript titled: “Principalities and Powers of the Air: Ancient Gods, Aliens, Abductions, & U.F.O’s — The Deception of Demons.”

Some may ask: Would not God create other physical beings of intelligence to populate this vast universe? Why would the Church condemn such notions which appear quite attractive to us today? Well, the reasons why the Church has done so are fundamental to the content of God’s revealed truths to men: Creation, the Fall, the Incarnation and Person of Jesus Christ, and the necessary implications which follow from these revealed truths.

If there were aliens on other worlds, then a number of problems would exist which are contrary to these truths which God has formally revealed:

Adam would not be the first hominem;

That Christ did not die for these alien beings, for they are not fallen; or
A: That the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity did become incarnate on
their worlds (but then, how many worlds and how many times?)
and
B: that He also died for them there.

Number 1 must be rejected since it is a revealed truth of God than Adam was the first man, the first hominem (viz. a being composed of physical body and spiritual soul), from whom ALL hominem (i.e., physical beings with a spiritual soul endowed with the faculties of will and intellect) are descended. This is a solemnly defined dogma of the Catholic Faith (see below).

Number 2 must be rejected because God has revealed that all Creation was affected by the Fall. (cf. Rom. 8:20-22)

Number 3 ‘A’ must be rejected because Christ is only ONE Person (the Second Person of the Holy Trinity) with two natures, divine and human. He could not therefore have another (alien) created nature united to His divine Person, and He surely did not have multiple mothers.

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Why We Can’t Believe in Aliens

Maybe he's forgetting one thing here though? Life on other planets wouldn't have to mean life created in the image of God as animals on the earth aren't either. So all the truths about Jesus having to die for their sins wouldn't apply. And then there's life in other worlds as in possibly plant, vegetation and the like. I'm not saying there is life in the beyond and would never want to argue about it but when the writer of that piece says no life he could be right but only in the context of what he's referring to. There are other possibilities. I side in with there probably isn't right now but will there be some type of plan for the future? Maybe we'll have to wait and see.

Palmfever · Aug 8, 2020

Angels are alien. Christ took on the form of a human. Satan is alien.... God was before the universe. Seems to me Christians do believe in aliens.

chevyontheriver · Aug 8, 2020

Michie said:
There are discussions on numerous Facebook sites and blog pages about the possibility of aliens. Many Catholics and others who profess belief in Christ as God and man, Lord and Savior, believe in alien life on other worlds in this vast universe. The following paragraphs are from an unpublished Tower of Davidmanuscript titled: “Principalities and Powers of the Air: Ancient Gods, Aliens, Abductions, & U.F.O’s — The Deception of Demons.”

Some may ask: Would not God create other physical beings of intelligence to populate this vast universe? Why would the Church condemn such notions which appear quite attractive to us today? Well, the reasons why the Church has done so are fundamental to the content of God’s revealed truths to men: Creation, the Fall, the Incarnation and Person of Jesus Christ, and the necessary implications which follow from these revealed truths.

If there were aliens on other worlds, then a number of problems would exist which are contrary to these truths which God has formally revealed:

Adam would not be the first hominem;

That Christ did not die for these alien beings, for they are not fallen; or
A: That the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity did become incarnate on
their worlds (but then, how many worlds and how many times?)
and
B: that He also died for them there.

Number 1 must be rejected since it is a revealed truth of God than Adam was the first man, the first hominem (viz. a being composed of physical body and spiritual soul), from whom ALL hominem (i.e., physical beings with a spiritual soul endowed with the faculties of will and intellect) are descended. This is a solemnly defined dogma of the Catholic Faith (see below).

Number 2 must be rejected because God has revealed that all Creation was affected by the Fall. (cf. Rom. 8:20-22)

Number 3 ‘A’ must be rejected because Christ is only ONE Person (the Second Person of the Holy Trinity) with two natures, divine and human. He could not therefore have another (alien) created nature united to His divine Person, and He surely did not have multiple mothers.

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Why We Can’t Believe in Aliens

I disagree. There are other possibilities.

The aliens could be fallen and awaiting the word of the coming of their messiah. In other words, they could be waiting for word of Jesus, or even voyaging through the universe looking for Him. It may be our job to bring Jesus Christ to the universe.

Or, as C. S. Lewis saw it, maybe the Fall is oozing out from earth. Perhaps they need a redeemer as much as our dogs do, because although they are affected by the fall they are not yet actually fallen.

Both of these ideas preserve the uniqueness of Jesus in redemption, and both actually give us a mission in spreading the Gospel to the ends of the universe.

There may or may not be aliens. But there isn't a solid theological reason there can't be aliens. If there are aliens, they will want to know about Jesus.

The Righterzpen · Aug 8, 2020

I go with Scripture; that angels obviously are created sentient beings who aren't human.

Also, there are angels who fell and angels who haven't and angels are outside of the redemption plan. There is no salvation for fallen angels.

Radagast · Aug 8, 2020

Michie said:
Some may ask: Would not God create other physical beings of intelligence to populate this vast universe?

The best analysis of the idea is by C.S. Lewis, in "Religion and Rocketry." Lewis points out that not all hypothetical "aliens" are theologically problematic. For example:

they might not have "rational souls." That is, they might be more like dogs than people.
they might be unfallen, like angels
they might be irredeemable, like demons

chevyontheriver · Aug 8, 2020

Radagast said:
The best analysis of the idea is by C.S. Lewis, in "Religion and Rocketry." Lewis points out that not all hypothetical "aliens" are theologically problematic. For example:

they might not have "rational souls." That is, they might be more like dogs than people.

they might be unfallen, like angels

they might be irredeemable, like demons

The latter is a scary possibility.

But no less scary than actual demons if you think about it.

Radagast · Aug 8, 2020

chevyontheriver said:
The aliens could be fallen and awaiting the word of the coming of their messiah. In other words, they could be waiting for word of Jesus, or even voyaging through the universe looking for Him. It may be our job to bring Jesus Christ to the universe.

C.S. Lewis, in "Religion and Rocketry," also points out that if the aliens are both fallen and in need of redemption, then either

we must bring Jesus to them, or
God has some other way of saving them

Theologically the first case is much like humans in remote places. The last case is somewhat problematic theologically, but one might argue that God only tells us what we need to know.

If we became aware of aliens who were both fallen and in need of redemption (there is currently zero evidence for them), the Church might begin to argue for "space missionaries."

Bob Crowley · Aug 9, 2020

Lewis also pointed out that we wouldn't treat aliens any better than we treat each other or other creatures.

If we can't get on with our own kind without wars, violence, brutality, exploitation, abortion, rape, murder, torture, fraud, theft, cannibalism, sexual exploitation, child abuse, animal cruelty, the drug trade, the military industrial complex, nuclear weaponry, MAD, and all the rest, what makes us think that we'd do any better if we encountered aliens?

If they were weaker than us, we'd exploit them.

If they were stronger than us, they'd destroy us, rightfully so.

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