A Florida couple has been charged after being caught getting groceries, washing their car, and walki

LostMarbels said:

Yes, but what are 'droplets' in the world of epidemiology? What are the other 2 forms of particulate that are formed, and how do those masks handle them? Because "droplets" do not 'enter the air'. They fall to the ground following a curved trajectory. Many of the times we are given word salad by experts, that talk about actual issues in a manner that are deceptive when spoken to a misunderstanding group of people.

I could confidently declare a N95 is rated to filter out 95% of particulates. So then people grab hold of that 95% protection and feel safe. I did not technically lie...

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Gracia Singh said:

What worries me is that what we are watching is an experiment in “group think”, which coincides with this virus.

Yes, this is real. Yes, it is potentially lethal. Experts also can not tell us exactly how it spreads, and thanks to the Chinese government refusing to share vital data, we still don’t know as much as we could.

We are, however, beginning to see a society in which neighbors turn neighbors in over four consenting adults who all know and trust one another and who feel fine getting together in one house to have a meal, and roast marshmallows.

This reminds me a lot of what takes place in totalitarian regimes. Turn in your neighbors over “anti-social” / “anti-revolutionary” behaviors.

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Gracia Singh said:

Which is a really good point, because we didn’t see nearly the same level of media freak-out, mandatory behaviors, and organized re-structuring of how we talk and think with Ebola. And Ebola is horrible. You basically get a really high fever and bleed to death internally.

So, what’s up with this?

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coffee4u said:

Not while singing and shouting they don't, they can become airborne and can travel further than 6 feet and stay in the air for up to 12 minutes.
Aerosols, Droplets, and Airborne Spread: Everything you could possibly want to know - First10EM

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Broken Fence said:

Is the OP #1 this thread.

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CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:

A Florida couple has been charged after being caught getting groceries, washing their car, and walking their dog despite testing positive for the coronavirus
These people are monsters and deserved the electric chair. Remember this when you go to the store. Any one could have COVID-19. And some people don't care if they pass it to you.

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ArmenianJohn said:

Please show me where in the OP it says that anyone was put in jail for having coronavirus. (Because it does NOT say that)

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Broken Fence said:

Clearly says was released from jail after paying 1000 bond. So they clearly put covid infected people in jail.

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ArmenianJohn said:

Where does it say they were put in jail for having covid?

Of course they put covid infected people in jail just like they put non-covid-infected people in jail. If someone breaks the law, covid or no covid, that person goes to jail (or court at least). But you said these people went to jail FOR having covid - nowhere does the OP say that.

You are over-dramatizing your own incorrect assumption (that is not backed in fact via the OP). It's like if some cook in a restaurant spit in someone's food and got arrested for it... would you then say "Now they're putting people in jail for cooking food"??? That's exactly what you're doing here.

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Broken Fence said:

You fail to realize they are intentionally infecting people in nursing homes, jails, and prisons. Your welcome to live in denial. Released from jail after paying bond. Clearly says they put infected people in jail.

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ArmenianJohn said:

Stop deflecting from the fact that you're fabricating stories that aren't true. You have no factual basis for your claims that they are throwing people in jail for having Covid and now you are trying to avoid answering for that.

Yes, clearly says they put infected people in jail - what's your point? They also put uninfected people in jail. Where does it say they mix the populations in jail? Oh yeah, it doesn't. Where does it say they put covid-infected people in jail FOR having covid? Oh yeah, it doesn't. WHere is your proof that they are intentionally infecting people in nursing homes? Oh yeah, it doesn't.

So pardon me if I don't choose to wear a tin-foil hat and make up consipiracy theories; I'll stick to the facts. It's always easier to make up your own fake facts and then whine about them but then again that's completely out of touch with reality.

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Broken Fence said:

I did not say that. I said they are putting infected people in jail. For other crimes. Leave me alone stop adding your ideas to my posts.

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RushMAN said:

There's science on both sides

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Gracia Singh said:

What worries me is that what we are watching is an experiment in “group think”, which coincides with this virus.

Yes, this is real. Yes, it is potentially lethal. Experts also can not tell us exactly how it spreads, and thanks to the Chinese government refusing to share vital data, we still don’t know as much as we could.

We are, however, beginning to see a society in which neighbors turn neighbors in over four consenting adults who all know and trust one another and who feel fine getting together in one house to have a meal, and roast marshmallows.

This reminds me a lot of what takes place in totalitarian regimes. Turn in your neighbors over “anti-social” / “anti-revolutionary” behaviors. See a bunch of people gather in a house? They might be Christians! They might be Baha’is! Report them!

No, it’s not the same, but it reminds me of this. Wear a mask, wash your hands, if you don’t feel comfortable going out, don’t go out. If you know someone who is worried about this virus due to their age and health and who want you to stay away, do so. Be courteous, be cautious, be hygienic, and spread out.

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Broken Fence said:

Well house arrest is an option. Putting them in quarantine is an option. But no they put them in jail, prisons, and nursing homes. The most vulnerable in a pandemic.

More Than 40% of U.S. Coronavirus Deaths Are Linked to Nursing Homes

One-Third of All U.S. Coronavirus Deaths Are Nursing Home Residents or Workers

46% of Kentucky's COVID-19 deaths in long-term care facilities - Lane Report | Kentucky Business & Economic News - 46% of Kentucky's COVID-19 deaths in long-term-care facilities

Prisons have higher coronavirus infection and death rates, analysis from JHU says - CNN

How U.S. Prisons Became Ground Zero for Covid-19

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loveofourlord said:

for petes sakes you really this dense? Masks are for those without symptoms and don't know they have covid, it keeps them from getting it and others from getting theirs, if you KNOW you have it, you then quarantine, maybe if trump and the other idiot conservatives were not playing games with covid there be enough tests to tell who was sick and wasn't.

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Gracia Singh said:

Again, though, the viruses I mentioned were spreading and killing people and hospitalizing people and a vaccination was not an option at first for most. Especially with novel viruses.

I actually contracted one of them. I was healthy and 25, and it almost killed me. So, what did we do during those pandemics to protect the vulnerable?

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loveofourlord said:

You know it's sickening to be right, when Ebola was a huge problem I actually was worried about it hitting the states, and everyone was like, "No no, don't worry it won't be that bad, it kills too quick and easy to contain." and while this disease is not that deadly, I wouldn't be surprised if you had just as many idiots whining about laws, and quarantine, and such.

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Gracia Singh said:

Which is a really good point, because we didn’t see nearly the same level of media freak-out, mandatory behaviors, and organized re-structuring of how we talk and think with Ebola. And Ebola is horrible. You basically get a really high fever and bleed to death internally.

So, what’s up with this? Is it because it’s super contagious? Maybe. But this still doesn’t explain what we’re hearing and having drummed into us.

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