Hmmm, I think you're deliberately misconstruing what I said!
I meant that futurists often misconstrue specific prophetic statements about Israel's return from Babylonian exile and rip them out of context and try to dress them up to be about 1948. I did not offer a complete Biblical Theology of how the old covenant is fulfilled by the new, but thanks for quoting some of my favourite chapters which demonstrate MY point, not YOURS!
Well I can't speak for other futurists and what they believe (unless they tell me or write it down) I can only speak for this futurist!
I do not confuse the return from the Babylonian exile (written in great detail in Ezra and Nehemiah),with the rebirth and beginning of the return of Israel to her promised land in 1948 as spoken of throughout many books of the OT!
What preterists and partial preterists err with is taking passages that all things are not fulfilled in, and call them close enough and assign them a historic date and fulfillment.
And no they do nopt poiont to teh return from exile from Babylon, based simply as what is written! But let me ask you one thing, why should I take your words literally, when you refuse to take Gods Prophecies as literal?
Hebrews 10 says of Jeremiah that this is the reason that WE can be in relationship with God!
19 Therefore, brothers and sisters, since we have confidence to enter the Most Holy Place by the blood of Jesus, 20 by a new and living way opened for us through the curtain, that is, his body,
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
So you are a physical believing descendant of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob then? Or was the woriters writing mystically and we had to wait until Augustine to learn that Israel doesn't mean Israel anymore but the church!
Agreed - that is what Jeremiah said.
Then Hebrews said God HAS. It's done, in the gospel!
We Christians are the recipient of that promise and have been for 2000 years.
Yes teh church are partakers of teh blessings of teh New covenant, but we are not taker overs of that covenant!
God made it to Israel through Jeremiah, and reconfirmed that proise to Israel through the writer of Hebrews and Paul in Romans! The church is not the House of Israel and Judah!
Romans 11:
23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.
24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
If the church is Israel now, who are the gentiles? And what is yoru proof God changed the definitions?
I think you need to be careful about becoming wise in your won conceits!
If Israel is the church then part of the church is blinded!
Who is
this Jacob that God will turn ungodliness away from ?
Once again as concerning Romans 11 and the Hebrews passage, these verses still govern the meanings:
Jeremiah 31:31-37
King James Version
31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
35 Thus saith the Lord, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The Lord of hosts is his name:
36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
37 Thus saith the Lord; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the Lord.
Zechariah 13:8-9
King James Version
8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.
God keeps His promises as He declared them, and not as men have attempted to retranslate them to mean!
We Gentiles have been partakers of the blessing of the new covenant to Israel, but God will still keep His Word to the covenanted nation!