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Is this an example of a gift? A female friend tends to elaborate on bible passages when we happen to talk about them. Though preaching may not be a gift for females according to the Bible, I just have the impression that teaching can be a gift to select females as long as its not in the pulpit. I had one of our post conversation recorded . I want to share it in the link below and see what you think. I wanna see if others may have the same impression I have that this is a gift assuming its never in the pulpit. She knows I have a lot of her speeches recorded because I find it almost likened to sermons you can listen to. She doesn't see this as a talent because she feels like she is just having a casual convo. But I get the impression it is a special God given talent. So thats why i am sharing it, to see what others think. Do you think this is a special rare anointing that God gave?

Please note, she has no plans to preach in church because she doesn't believe in women preaching. Like I said, she doesn't call this a gift because she is just expressing her thoughts. Our topic landed on Luke 8, you can feel free to look at that passage if you want to review it along
 

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None of the gifts listed in the Bible are gender-specific. In fact, it is explicitly stated that women pray and prophesy in the assembly. (1 Corinthians 11:5)

A woman who is "born again" is in fact a "child of God"; "a saint"; and she can witness to others anywhere, except she needs to be "silent" in the collective church gathering as God explains in our Bible, and she must not set self forth as a preacher anywhere. Her prayers and thoughts in the collective gathering are silent and only to God. The Scripture makes that clear, and one must not take verses out of context to please one's interests.
 
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A woman who is "born again" is in fact a "child of God"; "a saint"; and she can witness to others anywhere, except she needs to be "silent" in the collective church gathering as God explains in our Bible, and she must not set self forth as a preacher anywhere. Her prayers and thoughts in the collective gathering are silent and only to God. The Scripture makes that clear, and one must not take verses out of context to please one's interests.

You are taking verses out of context yourself.

1 Corinthians 11:5 (NKJV)
But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, for that is one and the same as if her head were shaved.

Clearly, there was no blanket commandment for women to be silent in the church, because Paul spoke of them praying and prophesying in the church.

So you have taken 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 out of context.

In context, there were 3 groups of people told to be silent in 1 Corinthians 14:28-36.

1. Tongues speakers who when no interpreter was present. (v28)
2. Prophets who were speaking all at once. (v30)
3. Women who had questions. (v34)

There are no scriptural prohibitions against women preaching.
 
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You are missing the message by mis-applying verses, friend! Praying and prophesying can be done by a woman if done in silence, as I said. Nothing in Holy Scripture gives her liberty to speak audibly in the collective Church gathering or set herself forth publicly as a preacher; in fact prohibits it. Women might speak to friends they meet throughout her daily activities, but NOT in the Assembly of saints. You can believe what you wish, but you should not pervert the Word of God, friend. I will leave you to your own chosen ways to try to live the Christian testimony
 
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You are missing the message by mis-applying verses, friend! Praying and prophesying can be done by a woman if done in silence, as I said. Nothing in Holy Scripture gives her liberty to speak audibly in the collective Church gathering or set herself forth publicly as a preacher; in fact prohibits it. Women might speak to friends they meet throughout her daily activities, but NOT in the Assembly of saints. You can believe what you wish, but you should not pervert the Word of God, friend. I will leave you to your own chosen ways to try to live the Christian testimony

First of all, you cannot prophesy silently.

Second of all, if the prayer or prophecy of 1 Cor 11:5 was silent, then nobody would know it was happening. In which case, Paul's problem with it falls apart, because he said by doing so, she would be dishonoring her head. She cannot be dishonoring her head by doing something that no one else in the assembly is aware of.

You are clearly mistaken. Thank you for the dialogue.
 
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Is this an example of a gift? A female friend tends to elaborate on bible passages when we happen to talk about them. Though preaching may not be a gift for females according to the Bible, I just have the impression that teaching can be a gift to select females as long as its not in the pulpit. I had one of our post conversation recorded . I want to share it in the link below and see what you think. I wanna see if others may have the same impression I have that this is a gift assuming its never in the pulpit. She knows I have a lot of her speeches recorded because I find it almost likened to sermons you can listen to. She doesn't see this as a talent because she feels like she is just having a casual convo. But I get the impression it is a special God given talent. So thats why i am sharing it, to see what others think. Do you think this is a special rare anointing that God gave?

Please note, she has no plans to preach in church because she doesn't believe in women preaching. Like I said, she doesn't call this a gift because she is just expressing her thoughts. Our topic landed on Luke 8, you can feel free to look at that passage if you want to review it along

What you have to bear in mind that the "Muzzle your women" issue IS NOT seen in the Jerusalem church.

In the Ephesian and COrinthian Churchs, however, being steeped in the DIANA/ARTIMIS religious system THE WOMEN are the ones regarded to have the "Spiritual knowledge", not the men (Because Eve was supposedly created FIRST, and then Adam in a subserviant role). Obviously then the tendency of a Corinthian woman who was a new convert, would be to "Carry over" concepts of her former PAGAN THEOLOGY, and mix it into the teaching in the Christian church.

Paul DIDN'T WANT this to occur - but it obviously did - "Purgatory", "Paedobaptism", the whole "Blessed Virgin mess", "Prayer Candles", to name a few.

The Bible is clear that there's no longer Jew, Gentile, Male, Famale, Bodn or Free - we're all "Just sinful humans" redeemed by our Savior, so if God CALLS a woman (like Joyce Meyer, or Kathyrin Kuhlman, or Corrie Ten Boom) to present the WORD, there's no problem at all - as long as they teach the truth. There's any number of MEN who are false teachers, and their SEX has nothing to do with it.

SOME denominational groups know and follow this truth, and some denominational paradigms don't to their own loss.
 
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First of all, you cannot prophesy silently.

Second of all, if the prayer or prophecy of 1 Cor 11:5 was silent, then nobody would know it was happening. In which case, Paul's problem with it falls apart, because he said by doing so, she would be dishonoring her head. She cannot be dishonoring her head by doing something that no one else in the assembly is aware of.

You are clearly mistaken. Thank you for the dialogue.

Let's clarify, shall we?

First, when in an assembly, anyone can agree silently in their heart with the Spirit to what is being said, and then offer either silent or audible praise to God. There is no prohibition to that.

But if there is not a witness to her confirmation, then she is to be silent, because she is out of order.

God knows this, and will provide His witnesses to attest to any Word sent by the Holy Spirit, and confirm it, just as He always provided witnesses to what Jesus spoke.
 
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