LDS Who did Joseph Smith see in the "Sacred Grove?"

He is the way · Jul 27, 2020

Phoebe Ann said:
Proverbs 30
6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
Joseph Smith added his own lies and convinced the vulnerable to believe him.

"On the other hand, to deny Joseph Smith outright—to deny the spiritual impressions which attest to his prophetic assignment—is to deny the Lord, who sent him. Jesus told his disciples that “he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me” (Luke 10:16; compare D&C 1:38; D&C 84:36; D&C 112:20)...
Joseph Smith among the Prophets

Doctrine and Covenants 135
3 Joseph Smith, the Prophet and Seer of the Lord, has done more, save Jesus only, for the salvation of men in this world, than any other man that ever lived in it.
Doctrine and Covenants 135

President Brigham Young uttered this bold statement: “Joseph Smith holds the keys of this last dispensation, and is now engaged behind the vail in the great work of the last days. I can tell our beloved brother Christians … that no man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith. From the day that the Priesthood was taken from the earth to the winding-up scene of all things, every man and woman must have the certificate of Joseph Smith, junior, as a passport to their entrance into the mansion where God and Christ are—I with you and you with me.
(in Journal of Discourses, 7:289; emphasis added).
Joseph Smith among the Prophets

(Book of Mormon | 2 Nephi 29:3 - 11)

3 And because my words shall hiss forth—many of the Gentiles shall say: A Bible! A Bible! We have got a Bible, and there cannot be any more Bible.
4 But thus saith the Lord God: O fools, they shall have a Bible; and it shall proceed forth from the Jews, mine ancient covenant people. And what thank they the Jews for the Bible which they receive from them? Yea, what do the Gentiles mean? Do they remember the travails, and the labors, and the pains of the Jews, and their diligence unto me, in bringing forth salvation unto the Gentiles?
5 O ye Gentiles, have ye remembered the Jews, mine ancient covenant people? Nay; but ye have cursed them, and have hated them, and have not sought to recover them. But behold, I will return all these things upon your own heads; for I the Lord have not forgotten my people.
6 Thou fool, that shall say: A Bible, we have got a Bible, and we need no more Bible. Have ye obtained a Bible save it were by the Jews?
7 Know ye not that there are more nations than one? Know ye not that I, the Lord your God, have created all men, and that I remember those who are upon the isles of the sea; and that I rule in the heavens above and in the earth beneath; and I bring forth my word unto the children of men, yea, even upon all the nations of the earth?
8 Wherefore murmur ye, because that ye shall receive more of my word? Know ye not that the testimony of two nations is a witness unto you that I am God, that I remember one nation like unto another? Wherefore, I speak the same words unto one nation like unto another. And when the two nations shall run together the testimony of the two nations shall run together also.
9 And I do this that I may prove unto many that I am the same yesterday, today, and forever; and that I speak forth my words according to mine own pleasure. And because that I have spoken one word ye need not suppose that I cannot speak another; for my work is not yet finished; neither shall it be until the end of man, neither from that time henceforth and forever.
10 Wherefore, because that ye have a Bible ye need not suppose that it contains all my words; neither need ye suppose that I have not caused more to be written.
11 For I command all men, both in the east and in the west, and in the north, and in the south, and in the islands of the sea, that they shall write the words which I speak unto them; for out of the books which shall be written I will judge the world, every man according to their works, according to that which is written.

Rescued One · Jul 27, 2020

Book of Mormon, 2 Nephi 29: Words of Beelzebub quoted by Joseph Smith.

Please don't add lies to God's words.

Question 3rd. Will every body be damned but Mormons?
Answer. Yes and a great portion of them, unless they repent and work righteousness.

Elders' Journal, Joseph Smith, jr., Far West, MO, July 1838
Elders’ Journal, July 1838, Page 42

He is the way · Jul 27, 2020

Phoebe Ann said:
Book of Mormon, 2 Nephi 29: Words of Beelzebub quoted by Joseph Smith.

Please don't add lies to God's words.

Question 3rd. Will every body be damned but Mormons?
Answer. Yes and a great portion of them, unless they repent and work righteousness.

Elders' Journal, Joseph Smith, jr., Far West, MO, July 1838
Elders’ Journal, July 1838, Page 42

(New Testament | Mark 16:16)

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

(New Testament | 2 Thessalonians 2:12)

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

(New Testament | Matthew 7:13 - 20)

13 ¶ Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
15 ¶ Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Peter1000 · Jul 27, 2020

Phoebe Ann said:
God is not forced to bless us. If He promises a blessing He freely gives it. If He forgives sin it is His choice.

That sentence makes no sense. Who can restrict our omnipotent God?

The Lord forgives us for Christ's sake before we are required to forgive others.

Colossians 3:13 – Bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive.

Ephesians 4:32 -
And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

God is NEVER restricted! Who can restrict Him????

Your right, JS could never restrict God, as you say.

Peter1000 · Jul 27, 2020

Phoebe Ann said:
Book of Mormon, 2 Nephi 29: Words of Beelzebub quoted by Joseph Smith.

Please don't add lies to God's words.

Question 3rd. Will every body be damned but Mormons?
Answer. Yes and a great portion of them, unless they repent and work righteousness.

Elders' Journal, Joseph Smith, jr., Far West, MO, July 1838
Elders’ Journal, July 1838, Page 42

JS is right. Everybody must
1) believe in Christ
2) have faith Christ
3) repent
4) be baptized by proper authority
5) receive the gift of the Holy Ghost
6) do good works that was before ordained of God that we should do
7) be married in the Lord, in the everlasting covenant by a man with authority to perform
such an act.
8) endure to the end

Unless a person does these things, they will be damned. (not damned like be thrown into a lake of fire and brimstone for eternity), but damned like you are stopped. You cannot grow, or expand, or increase, or receive new knowledge, etc., etc., etc.

The Church of Jesus Christ thinks of heaven and hell a little differently than you do.

All will go to heaven, because the scriptures tell us that all will be on their knees and bow their heads and confess the Lord Jesus. All that believe and confess Jesus will be saved in heaven.

But then all will also be judged for their works. So it is this judgement that will decide where in heaven you belong. Only those that do what I mentioned above will be in the highest level of heaven.

Everyone that does not do as I mentioned above will be in a lower level of heaven. And everyone that is not in the highest level will be stopped from progressing, another word for being damned, like the damn on a river stops the water from progressing further.

mmksparbud · Jul 27, 2020

He is the way said:
cov·et
/ˈkəvət/
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verb

yearn to possess or have (something).
"the president-elect covets time for exercise and fishing"

(New Testament | 1 Timothy 6:10)

10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

It is impossible to LOVE your neighbor as yourself NOT help/give to the poor:

Did you read the story of the good Samaritan?

He is the way said:
Jesus promised His spirit to those who keep the commandments:
(New Testament | John 14:15 - 18)

15 ¶ If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

Again, Jesus did not name a single commandments the young man had broken. He loved his money. And God has given His Holy Spirit to several before they even knew about all His commandments---Cornelius and his friends all received the Holy Spirit before they were even baptized, so did the Ethiopian Eunuch. The Holy Spirit leads to truth, if one wants it.
Of course I've read about the good Samaritan. And??

mmksparbud · Jul 27, 2020

Peter1000 said:
JS is right. Everybody must
1) believe in Christ
2) have faith Christ
3) repent
4) be baptized by proper authority
5) receive the gift of the Holy Ghost
6) do good works that was before ordained of God that we should do
7) be married in the Lord, in the everlasting covenant by a man with authority to perform
such an act.
8) endure to the end

Unless a person does these things, they will be damned. (not damned like be thrown into a lake of fire and brimstone for eternity), but damned like you are stopped. You cannot grow, or expand, or increase, or receive new knowledge, etc., etc., etc.

The Church of Jesus Christ thinks of heaven and hell a little differently than you do.

All will go to heaven, because the scriptures tell us that all will be on their knees and bow their heads and confess the Lord Jesus. All that believe and confess Jesus will be saved in heaven.

But then all will also be judged for their works. So it is this judgement that will decide where in heaven you belong. Only those that do what I mentioned above will be in the highest level of heaven.

Everyone that does not do as I mentioned above will be in a lower level of heaven. And everyone that is not in the highest level will be stopped from progressing, another word for being damned, like the damn on a river stops the water from progressing further.

Please state the verse that states we must be married ---and by someone in the LDS temple (which is what you mean)

mmksparbud · Jul 27, 2020

He is the way said:
(Book of Mormon | 2 Nephi 29:3 - 11)

3 And because my words shall hiss forth—many of the Gentiles shall say: A Bible! A Bible! We have got a Bible, and there cannot be any more Bible.
4 But thus saith the Lord God: O fools, they shall have a Bible; and it shall proceed forth from the Jews, mine ancient covenant people. And what thank they the Jews for the Bible which they receive from them? Yea, what do the Gentiles mean? Do they remember the travails, and the labors, and the pains of the Jews, and their diligence unto me, in bringing forth salvation unto the Gentiles?
5 O ye Gentiles, have ye remembered the Jews, mine ancient covenant people? Nay; but ye have cursed them, and have hated them, and have not sought to recover them. But behold, I will return all these things upon your own heads; for I the Lord have not forgotten my people.
6 Thou fool, that shall say: A Bible, we have got a Bible, and we need no more Bible. Have ye obtained a Bible save it were by the Jews?
7 Know ye not that there are more nations than one? Know ye not that I, the Lord your God, have created all men, and that I remember those who are upon the isles of the sea; and that I rule in the heavens above and in the earth beneath; and I bring forth my word unto the children of men, yea, even upon all the nations of the earth?
8 Wherefore murmur ye, because that ye shall receive more of my word? Know ye not that the testimony of two nations is a witness unto you that I am God, that I remember one nation like unto another? Wherefore, I speak the same words unto one nation like unto another. And when the two nations shall run together the testimony of the two nations shall run together also.
9 And I do this that I may prove unto many that I am the same yesterday, today, and forever; and that I speak forth my words according to mine own pleasure. And because that I have spoken one word ye need not suppose that I cannot speak another; for my work is not yet finished; neither shall it be until the end of man, neither from that time henceforth and forever.
10 Wherefore, because that ye have a Bible ye need not suppose that it contains all my words; neither need ye suppose that I have not caused more to be written.
11 For I command all men, both in the east and in the west, and in the north, and in the south, and in the islands of the sea, that they shall write the words which I speak unto them; for out of the books which shall be written I will judge the world, every man according to their works, according to that which is written.

Isa_55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

mmksparbud · Jul 27, 2020

EXCUSE ME---BUT WHY IS EVERYBODY ON THIS THREAD SHOUTING??!!

He is the way · Jul 27, 2020

mmksparbud said:
Again, Jesus did not name a single commandments the young man had broken. He loved his money. And God has given His Holy Spirit to several before they even knew about all His commandments---Cornelius and his friends all received the Holy Spirit before they were even baptized, so did the Ethiopian Eunuch. The Holy Spirit leads to truth, if one wants it.
Of course I've read about the good Samaritan. And??

Those who have compassion have eternal life:

(New Testament | Luke 10:25 - 37)

25 ¶ And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?
27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
29 But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbour?
30 And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead.
31 And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.
32 And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side.
33 But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him,
34 And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.
35 And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee.
36 Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?
37 And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.

The Samaritan was willing to part with his goods and service. However, with Lazarus and the rich man, the rich man was not willing to give to the poor, he did not help Lazarus. Which one obeyed the commandment to LOVE their neighbor? Hint it was NOT the rich man who ended up in hell. Those not willing to impart of their goods are breaking the commandment of LOVING their neighbor as themselves. They love themselves more.

Peter1000 · Jul 27, 2020

mmksparbud said:
Please state the verse that states we must be married ---and by someone in the LDS temple (which is what you mean)

It is not a verse in the bible that gives that detail. It is in the D&C in its details. The bible contains verses that imply that marriage can be eternal, but does not explain in detail the everlasting covenant of marriage.

It is only in marriage in the Lord that a person can continually increase. Look at how Jacob was able to increase as he started the House of Israel. He started with 2 people and ended up with billions.

All mainstream Christian religions marry for time only. IOW at death they will part. There will be no more increase from them, their road to increase is damned, they are stopped. You may know your husband and children in the here after, but you will all be angels.

What is the purpose of an angel? Look that up and that is what it will be like for you and me if we do not reach the highest levels of heaven.

When Jesus says they do not marry but are as the angels in heaven, does that mean all that do not marry will be angels/servants. To serve who?

Is that what you want your eternity to be like, a servant to those who have obtained salvation?

mmksparbud · Jul 27, 2020

He is the way said:
Those who have compassion have eternal life:

(New Testament | Luke 10:25 - 37)

25 ¶ And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?
27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
29 But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbour?
30 And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead.
31 And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.
32 And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side.
33 But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him,
34 And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.
35 And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee.
36 Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?
37 And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.

The Samaritan was willing to part with his goods and service. However, with Lazarus and the rich man, the rich man was not willing to give to the poor, he did not help Lazarus. Which one obeyed the commandment to LOVE their neighbor? Hint it was NOT the rich man who ended up in hell. Those not willing to impart of their goods are breaking the commandment of LOVING their neighbor as themselves. They love themselves more.

So, no baptism, no good works, no commandment keeping needed----compassion?
And where does it say the young man did not give to the poor---he would have, it was part of the lifestyle---it proved you were obeying God. Where does it say that Jesus condemned the young man for breaking one of the commandments?

Mar_10:21 Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.

Which commandment is that??

mmksparbud · Jul 27, 2020

Peter1000 said:
It is not a verse in the bible that gives that detail. It is in the D&C in its details. The bible contains verses that imply that marriage can be eternal, but does not explain in detail the everlasting covenant of marriage.

It is only in marriage in the Lord that a person can continually increase. Look at how Jacob was able to increase as he started the House of Israel. He started with 2 people and ended up with billions.

All mainstream Christian religions marry for time only. IOW at death they will part. There will be no more increase from them, their road to increase is damned, they are stopped. You may know your husband and children in the here after, but you will all be angels.

What is the purpose of an angel? Look that up and that is what it will be like for you and me if we do not reach the highest levels of heaven.

When Jesus says they do not marry but are as the angels in heaven, does that mean all that do not marry will be angels/servants. To serve who?

Is that what you want your eternity to be like, a servant to those who have obtained salvation?

Exactly---it is not a requirement made by God. Anything else is delusional. It can not be derived from the scriptures. And Jesus was never married---neither was the Ethiopian Eunuch. He will be in the presence of God, along will all of those who never married.
Yes, the earth was made to be inhabited. After the resurrection, it will be fully inhabited by the righteous and by the innocent babies and children, billions of them that were aborted beside those that we lost to disease of other things. It will be filled as God intended. The problem with LDS thinking is that it is not enough for them to have eternal life with God, they want to be at the top.
All they can talk about is "increase." More, More,. More---of what? Having babies seems to be what they consider to be all that is important. We will all be servants---to God. That seems to be something that is not good enough, not sufficient for them. God gives us everything we can ever want, criminy! The streets of the New Jerusalem are paved with gold!! Diamonds are just another rock, we will also build our own "country homes" done exactly as we want, the universe is ours to investigate and none of you think that is enough without this "increase." Well, one thing I do know, if eternal life with God is not sufficient for you---you won't get it!

We are the bride of Jesus---we will all be one family. If our spouses were saved, they will be there and we will continue being with them -- still not enough for you---you want your own planets to populate and have everyone worship you! These planets will supposedly all have to undergo the same thing of sin, and salvation!! Disgusting!! God wipes out sin! You will be no God to be worshipped---there will always be only ONE God the Father. The LDS view of heaven is to continue in this awful cycle of disease, deformities, death, all manor of sickness and continuing sin---murder, child molesting, stealing---all sins just keep going so that they can be worshipped and provide salvation to their planet. That is seriously screwed up! God will wipe out all sin forever. We will traverse the universe without fear. We will watch these billions of children grow up without fear of anything happening to them. Not enough for you? Don't worry about it, God only wants those who want to be with Him. Only those that find Him sufficient.

He is the way · Jul 27, 2020

mmksparbud said:
So, no baptism, no good works, no commandment keeping needed----compassion?
And where does it say the young man did not give to the poor---he would have, it was part of the lifestyle---it proved you were obeying God. Where does it say that Jesus condemned the young man for breaking one of the commandments?

Mar_10:21 Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.

Which commandment is that??

All of the commandments are based on LOVE. God is LOVE and He expects us to LOVE one another:

(New Testament | John 13:34 - 35)

34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

(New Testament | 2 John 1:3 - 6)

3 Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.
4 I rejoiced greatly that I found of thy children walking in truth, as we have received a commandment from the Father.
5 And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another.
6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.

How do we LOVE one another? Why is LOVE so important?

mmksparbud · Jul 27, 2020

He is the way said:
All of the commandments are based on LOVE. God is LOVE and He expects us to LOVE one another:

(New Testament | John 13:34 - 35)

34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

(New Testament | 2 John 1:3 - 6)

3 Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.
4 I rejoiced greatly that I found of thy children walking in truth, as we have received a commandment from the Father.
5 And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another.
6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.

How do we LOVE one another? Why is LOVE so important?

Still have provided no evidence that the young man broke any commandment. Jesus did not accuse him of breaking a single one.

Rescued One · Jul 27, 2020

He is the way said:
All of the commandments are based on LOVE. God is LOVE and He expects us to LOVE one another:

(New Testament | John 13:34 - 35)

34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

(New Testament | 2 John 1:3 - 6)

3 Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.
4 I rejoiced greatly that I found of thy children walking in truth, as we have received a commandment from the Father.
5 And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another.
6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.

How do we LOVE one another? Why is LOVE so important?

Those who have the Spirit of Christ love others. They are capable of putting God first.

Romans 8 NIV
5 Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. 6 The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. 7 The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. 8 Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God.

9 You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ.

He is the way · Jul 27, 2020

mmksparbud said:
Still have provided no evidence that the young man broke any commandment. Jesus did not accuse him of breaking a single one.

That is true and Jesus loved him because he had done his best to keep the commandments. However he did lack one thing if he was to be perfect. Being perfect is one of the things Jesus asked us to do. What Jesus asked of him was not easy by any means. What Jesus asks us to do is not easy either and all things are possible with God. It is my hope that the young man received eternal life for his efforts:

(New Testament | 1 Peter 4:8)

8 And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.

He is the way · Jul 27, 2020

Phoebe Ann said:
Those who have the Spirit of Christ love others. They are capable of putting God first.

Romans 8 NIV
5 Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. 6 The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. 7 The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. 8 Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God.

9 You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ.

The spirit of God is LOVE.

drstevej · Jul 28, 2020

Being perfect is one of the things Jesus asked us to do. What Jesus asked of him was not easy by any means. What Jesus asks us to do is not easy either and all things are possible with God.

He is the Way, Are YOU Perfect?

Yes
No
No, but answering this question honestly could destroy Mormonism

Peter1000 · Jul 28, 2020

drstevej said:
He is the Way, Are YOU Perfect?

Yes

No

No, but answering this question honestly could destroy Mormonism

Your question does not destroy Mormonism. Jesus wants us to perfect like he is. This perfection will not take place until after the resurrection, just like Jesus. So if HITW answers y or n it does not matter. Mormonism is thriving during this pandemic and will continue to grow into the millenium.

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