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Why should I believe your testimony?There is only ONE TESTIMONY. If anyone gives you something different, don´t believe them
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Why should I believe your testimony?There is only ONE TESTIMONY. If anyone gives you something different, don´t believe them
Why should I believe your testimony or gods testimony?HE gave the sacrifice for sins...there is nothing else for man to do but to believe GOD´S TESTIMONY which HE has given of HIS SON...
Why should I believe this?It was the TRUE CIRCUMCISION of the COVENANT which is a mark made on the inner flesh of the heart, Clizby...and that by the hand of GOD, not by the hand of men on the outer flesh...
When those who heard The GOSPEL and believed, they were ¨Cut to the heart¨...there was an effectual change internally and at that moment that they believed...it is the revelation of the TRUTH of the GOSPEL...that it is sin which separates us from GOD and it is through CHRIST that we are washed and reconciled back to GOD because GOD provided the one and only sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins...
Those who believe are washed and marked by HIS BLOOD...to GOD, we are the aroma of CHRIST...
Remember all the old rituals...the HIGH PRIESTS had to wear special garments and had in their breast pockets, (Close to their heart) incense....
It´s all about CHRIST and when GOD looks upon those who believe in HIS SON...HE sees HIS SON´S COVERING.
This IS the WEDDING GARMENT and the ONLY GARMENT needed at THE WEDDING...
Why should I believe this?The author was trying to show the Hebrews that CHRIST was always from the beginning...that these OT rituals were simply the shadows of what was to be fulfilled (when the fullness of time would come, that is, the body prepared from the beginning), through CHRIST...who was always GOD´S WILL and PLAN from the beginning...
Which is why Melchizadek is mentioned...because Melchizadek is simply a shadow of the HIGH PRIEST and mediator between GOD and MAN...
It is written, no one can come up the altar on ¨steps¨ lest they be found uncovered...
Steps are manmade material...no man had any input into what was the TRUE VEIL which separated the HOLY OF HOLIES between GOD and MAN...and no man can come to the altar or throne of GRACE uncovered...for it is only through CHRIST, through HIS BODY, HIS BLOOD, HIS COVERING that we have access to the FATHER...by...and here is the TRUTH...ONE SPIRIT....
CHRIST is the fullness of the invisible GOD made visible...
Why is it sufficient? All you have ever provided is your faith, you just believe it for your reasons, you reject the same evidence provided by other religious claims based on nothing. Until you provide better evidence you are not convincing.Clizby, Do you think GOD was petty in offering up HIS SON as the ONLY WAY and TRUTH?
Your request for something more is why you will struggle because you have all that is needed yet you do not believe that it is sufficient.
IT IS SUFFICIENT...
Do you have this evidence?Beyond reasonable doubt would require logically reasoned evidence that affirms Gods existence. All premises would have to be correct. Any evidence that contradicts God’s existence would need to be shown to be wrong due to incorrect premises, an error in logic or reasoning. This would then mean that there are no good reasons to doubt the existence of God so it is proven beyond reasonable doubt.
Sin was necessary. It doesn't mean God had to like it. I don't like doing dishes, but I still do them because if I don't, there won't be clean dishes to eat off of.
And no, God's plan did not make the sin 'worse'.
Either way, God may have made it but he isn't present in hell. That defeats the purpose.
This is not true...GOD created one man, Adam...and what came forth from Adam would never be of his exact likeness...look, even Eve, who came directly from Adam´s body, had her own spirit bent on her own interests, wants, needs...
You, if you are a father, know that your own children will never, ever mirror your exact likeness...and no, we aren´t talking about the physical outward features...we are talking about their individual spirits.
So, even those who have not sinned, because they came forth from ëve" are tainted, sir...
and how can a GOD who already knew the day would come when one of HIS children would disobey, ensure a people called by HIS NAME? if all have sinned and fallen short of HIS PERFECT and HOLY IMAGE?
Would you choose and weigh and measure your children against your children, picking and choosing based on their level of sin or disobedience?
GOD is good, HE found a way for all who have sinned to be reconciled to HIM and be called HIS CHILDREN...and that was in, by and through HIS SON
God is the one who makes the rules, he is accountable to noone, right? So, if sin was necessary, then God wanted it to happen!
Yes he did. Infinite torture is worse than what even the most evil human can do to you.
Find the most evil person you can find, and the worst they can do to you is torture you from birth until your death, which is give or take 100 years. And this will be the most pain and suffering you can endure. Luckily for you and me, nature gave us a mechanism of passing out when the pain gets unbearable. But God's torture is without that mechanism.
He just fries people for eternity. Without reprieve. Think about it. Some Christians have come up with a way of making God less evil by making his Hell temporary (i.e people burn up and stop existing). This latter version is the same as what earthly villains do. Except earthly villains can only torture people they have access to. God has access to everyone.
So, no matter how you slice it, God's plan is making sin worse.
This entire argument falls flat, because yet again I have no choice to believe. I am not convinced of a god. I am not convinced of a hell. I choose to believe in a god or a hell any more than I can choose to believe the moon is made of green cheese (or any cheese).This entire argument falls flat on it's face because, yet again, people have the choice to not end up in hell. God isn't doing it to them; they do it to themselves. What, do you complain about getting jailtime for a crime because 'well I didn't know how hard life in jail was'? No.
It's almost as if you did not read my response God is both the rule maker and rule enforcer. He can create whatever scenario He so chooses. One would assume, according to apologetics, that God is also a spaceless, timeless, omnipotent agent. Surely God's abilities are not limited to that of materialism?
And speaking of 'free will', how does this concept work in heaven? Furthermore, does 'free will' necessarily apply to God?
Or maybe we should explore what actually is 'free will'?
Morals are subjective. Even with a God. Spoiler alert. Might makes right?
You are partially correct. -- The Euthephro is a false dilemma. Why? a true dilemma infers A or not A. Hence, the title needs a re-word, under classical definition. But let's not quibble over the title, but the content presented. Which is:
1). Whatever God does is good.
2). God does this or that because it is good.
Option 1). is flawed because:
- God could change His mind
- All such beings are merely following God's dictates
- How do we know Gods commands are good, because He says so?
Option 2). is flawed because:
- God is appealing to a standard outside Himself. Hence, God is no longer necessary to ground morals.
Theists sometimes try to shoehorn in a third option into this false dilemma. However, it seems to inevitably directly borrow from option 1).
Option 1). is flawed because:
- God could change His mind
- All such beings are merely following God's dictates
- How do we know Gods commands are good, because He says so?
Option 2). is flawed because:
- God is appealing to a standard outside Himself. Hence, God is no longer necessary to ground morals.
Theists sometimes try to shoehorn in a third option into this false dilemma. However, it seems to inevitably directly borrow from option 1).
This entire argument falls flat, because yet again I have no choice to believe. I am not convinced of a god. I am not convinced of a hell. I choose to believe in a god or a hell any more than I can choose to believe the moon is made of green cheese (or any cheese).
I cannot avoid your hypothetical hell inasmuch as I cannot believe there is such a thing nor make myself believe such a thing.
This is not what I said. I said, I cannot choose to believe. If someone presents evidence that I am wrong on a topic, I can be convinced. But, I cannot choose to be convinced. Either the information convinces me or it doesn't. There is no choice in the matter.On a lesser note, it's false to say you cannot change your beliefs. People do it all the time, perhaps not on the same scale, but with a lot of things.
because it is all there written over thousands of years...and because all that is written were simply the shadows of what was to come and all that would be fulfilled in CHRISTWhy should I believe this?
There is no evidence provided by other religious claims, sir...all it is is a lower imitation and distortion of THE TRUTH...Why is it sufficient? All you have ever provided is your faith, you just believe it for your reasons, you reject the same evidence provided by other religious claims based on nothing. Until you provide better evidence you are not convincing.