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whatbogsends · Jul 15, 2020

Aldebaran said:
When you consider the contradictory information given to us from the "scientists" during those 4+ months, it's amazing you can't understand why people aren't wearing them:

“There is little data that wearing surgical masks in general protect the wearer from becoming infected with COVID-19, while giving the wearer a false sense of protection,” Andrew M. Welch, medical center director for the New Mexico VA Health Care System, noted in a Wednesday email obtained by New Mexico In Depth and ProPublica.

This VA Hospital Cited “Misleading” Data to Restrict Mask Use for Health Care Workers — ProPublica

Masks Save Lives - COVID-19

There was definitely some misinformation about various aspects of COVID-19 that has been put forth, by reputable and questionable sources alike. Much of the negative commentary on mask wearing, however, was regarding how much masks protect the wearer, and very few even addressed the point of masks protecting others from the wearer. A large part of the anti-facemask information also came about when less was known about primary methods of transmission of the virus often, focusing more about contacting surfaces than aerosol packets. Your linked video (which was from February) talks about the risk of facemasks in touching surfaces, and doesn't really address the aerosol spread of the virus (except recommending masks for people coughing and sneezing), and as i said, what we know about the transmission of the virus has changed significantly since February..

All this being said, it's been a while now that the evidence supporting facemasks far outweighs the evidence against them, and those arguing against them tend to either a) cite emotional arguments or b) focus solely on the benefit to the wearer.

KCfromNC · Jul 16, 2020

Aldebaran said:
“There is little data that wearing surgical masks in general protect the wearer from becoming infected with COVID-19, while giving the wearer a false sense of protection,” Andrew M. Welch, medical center director for the New Mexico VA Health Care System, noted in a Wednesday email obtained by New Mexico In Depth and ProPublica.

I thought by now everyone had understood that masks are useful for preventing people from infecting others. Which, given the current rate of spreading, might not be a bad idea.

cow451 · Jul 16, 2020

mala said:
how about a muzzle? it would make a quality of life improvement for sure.

POTUS first!

cow451 · Jul 16, 2020

MDC said:
Because the basic premise is false. What you said makes no sense as you’ve just regurgitated what main stream has said. Asymtommatic is code for not being sick. This whole covid thing is a sham

Your post reflects so much ignorance ..... :doh:

it is hard to take you seriously.

cow451 · Jul 16, 2020

wing2000 said:
If I was in a high covid risk environment (such as a Trump rally), I would wear a mask and a face shield.

I would go full hazmat....

Arc F1 · Jul 16, 2020

-57 said:
Face shields...How long before they become mandatory???

Say it isn't so.

Aryeh Jay · Jul 16, 2020

cow451 said:
I would go full hazmat....

I would go somewhere else...

cow451 · Jul 16, 2020

Aryeh Jay said:
I would go somewhere else...

Coward

Speedwell · Jul 16, 2020

cow451 said:
I would go full hazmat....

Me too. I would hate to have someone recognize me there.

MDC · Jul 16, 2020

cow451 said:
Your post reflects so much ignorance ..... it is hard to take you seriously.

The only ignorance I see are folks like you who are naive enough to believe everything your government is telling you without any critical thinking or research. There’s nothing I take serious coming from main stream media nor spineless folk like yourself. The Lord teaches us to test all things including this wicked government

Aldebaran · Jul 16, 2020

whatbogsends said:
There was definitely some misinformation about various aspects of COVID-19 that has been put forth, by reputable and questionable sources alike. Much of the negative commentary on mask wearing, however, was regarding how much masks protect the wearer, and very few even addressed the point of masks protecting others from the wearer. A large part of the anti-facemask information also came about when less was known about primary methods of transmission of the virus often, focusing more about contacting surfaces than aerosol packets. Your linked video (which was from February) talks about the risk of facemasks in touching surfaces, and doesn't really address the aerosol spread of the virus (except recommending masks for people coughing and sneezing), and as i said, what we know about the transmission of the virus has changed significantly since February..

All this being said, it's been a while now that the evidence supporting facemasks far outweighs the evidence against them, and those arguing against them tend to either a) cite emotional arguments or b) focus solely on the benefit to the wearer.

They were sure about the information they were originally putting out, and now they're sure about the information they're putting out now. They told us before in no uncertain terms that the virus was not airborne, even when "anecdotal" evidence showed it was. When a church choir can get together for choir practice, and they stay 6 feet apart and use hand sanitizer and avoid physical contact, and then most of them get the virus, it indicates being an airborne virus. But it was denied even then, and we were supposed to believe them--because they are the scientists, and they know.

pitabread · Jul 16, 2020

MDC said:
The only ignorance I see are folks like you who are naive enough to believe everything your government is telling you without any critical thinking or research.

The anti-science folks / COVID denialists aren't doing critical thinking or research. Let's not kid ourselves there.

Denialism is a defense mechanism, not an example of critical thinking.

pitabread · Jul 16, 2020

Aldebaran said:
But it was denied even then, and we were supposed to believe them--because they are the scientists, and they know.

What denial are you referring to? I remember reading published scientific papers on potential airborne transmission months ago.

Naturally with a novel virus you're going to potentially see conflicting information, because we're collectively learning different things about it. But don't explicitly recall anyone outright denying that airborne transmission could occur.

MDC · Jul 16, 2020

pitabread said:
The anti-science folks / COVID denialists aren't doing critical thinking or research. Let's not kid ourselves there.

Denialism is a defense mechanism, not an example of critical thinking.

Pseudo science is your foundation and why you criticize those who oppose it. A Godless society denies the obvious satanic trickery and deception simply because they are slaves to the system. Afraid to lose what their sinful flesh so much desires in life they’ll do anything to keep the status quo and mainstream narrative. And by doing so this wicked and evil system that feeds the simple minded folk their selfish superficial pleasures of life will in the end destroy them by Gods hand in judgment. The cowardly are naive. And denial is their defense mechanism

loveofourlord · Jul 16, 2020

MDC said:
Pseudo science is your foundation and why you criticize those who oppose it. A Godless society denies the obvious satanic trickery and deception simply because they are slaves to the system. Afraid to lose what their sinful flesh so much desires in life they’ll do anything to keep the status quo and mainstream narrative. And by doing so this wicked and evil system that feeds the simple minded folk their selfish superficial pleasures of life will in the end destroy them by Gods hand in judgment. The cowardly are naive. And denial is their defense mechanism

Right...it's because it's our foundation, nothing to do with up to 200k dead in the US and people like you making it worse....

MDC · Jul 16, 2020

loveofourlord said:
Right...it's because it's our foundation, nothing to do with up to 200k dead in the US and people like you making it worse....

No it’s you scared folk making it worse. You’ll believe anything simply because that’s what a simple minded person will do

pitabread · Jul 16, 2020

MDC said:
Pseudo science is your foundation and why you criticize those who oppose it. A Godless society denies the obvious satanic trickery and deception simply because they are slaves to the system. Afraid to lose what their sinful flesh so much desires in life they’ll do anything to keep the status quo and mainstream narrative. And by doing so this wicked and evil system that feeds the simple minded folk their selfish superficial pleasures of life will in the end destroy them by Gods hand in judgment. The cowardly are naive. And denial is their defense mechanism

This is the goofy conspiracy theory/fantasy-esque nonsense I expect. As I said, there is no critical thinking or research involved in the above. Just base denialism and a detachment from reality.

pitabread · Jul 16, 2020

MDC said:
No it’s you scared folk making it worse.

Well that's a complete lie.

durangodawood · Jul 16, 2020

cow451 said:
I would go full hazmat....

I would go full Tiamat.

loveofourlord · Jul 16, 2020

MDC said:
No it’s you scared folk making it worse. You’ll believe anything simply because that’s what a simple minded person will do

Right and denialism is any better? You havn't given anything but UHUH!!!, we've shown you the facts, give us something beyond conspiracy theories. Explain why hospitals are nearing capacity and the 12k deaths a week without the conspiracy nonsense.

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