Another member asked me to prove EGW was a false prophet by posting some of her failed prophecies from her own words, So, here we go:
"This nation will yet be humbled into the dust. . . When England does declare war, all nations will have an interest of their own to serve, and there will be general war"
(Testimonies, Vol.1,p. 259).
"Had our nation remained united, it would have had strength; but divided, it must fall"
(p. 260) Again, written during our Civil War.
Unfulfilled Predictions?
England to Declare War During the U.S. Civil War? Did Ellen G. White predict that England would declare war against the United States?
Here is the
context of her comment and it is not what you are claiming:
"England is studying whether it is best to take advantage of the present weak condition of our nation, and venture to make war upon her. She is weighing the matter, and trying to sound other nations. She fears, if she should commence war abroad, that she would be weak at home, and that other nations would take advantage of her weakness. Other nations are making quiet yet active preparations for war, and are hoping that England will make war with our nation, for then they would improve the opportunity to be revenged on her for the advantage she has taken of them in the past, and the injustice done them. A portion of the Queen's subjects are waiting a favorable opportunity to break their yoke; but if England thinks it will pay, she will not hesitate a moment to improve her opportunities to exercise her power, and humble our nation. When England does declare war, all nations will have an interest of their own to serve, and there will be general war, general confusion" (
Testimonies for the Church, vol. 1, p. 259).
Note the conditional character of these statements: "She fears,
if she should commence war abroad, that she would be weak at home." "But
if England thinks it will pay." Then follows the sentence: "When England does declare war. . . ." It is evident that Mrs. White is here using the word "when" as a synonym for "if," which is good English. In fact, if we do not thus understand the word "when" in this connection, we have an unusual situation--a series of problematical "ifs" is followed by a simple statement that England is going to declare war. Thus Mrs. White's last sentence would make pointless her preceding sentences.
A similar use of the word "when" is found on the preceding page in her work: "When our nation observes the fast which God has chosen, then will He accept their prayers as far as the war is concerned." No one will argue that the word "when" in this connection introduces a simple statement concerning a future fact that will undebatably happen.
An inspired parallel to this "if" and "when" construction is found in Jeremiah 42:10-19. The prophet speaks to Israel about abiding in Palestine rather than going down into Egypt:
"If ye will still abide in this land. . . ." Verse 10.
"But if ye say, We will not dwell in this land. . . ." Verse 13.
"If ye wholly set your faces to enter into Egypt. . . ." Verse 15.
"When ye shall enter into Egypt . . . ." Verse 18.
It is evident that the phrase "when ye shall enter into Egypt" is synonymous with "if ye shall enter into Egypt."
With the clause "when England does declare war," understood as synonymous with "if England does declare war," the statement changes from a prediction to a statement of mere possibility, but a possibility, however, whose full potentialities many might not realize.
So as you can see with the context added back in it does not say what your trying to claims it says.
After predicting the world would end in 1843, 1844, & 1845, & flopping, she wrote, (Early Writings, p.57) "Now time is almost finished, (1851) and what we have been 6 years in learning they will have to learn in months." More to come-these are all I have time for right now.
You got your facts wrong again, EGW did not have her first vision until
after 1844 after the great disappointment from the predictions of William Miller (Baptist). She was not even a part of the SDA church which did not start until 21st May 1863. I think what your referring to is the Millerite movement. Started by William Miller who was a Baptist. The Millerite movement was a world wide movement that was made up of many Christian denominations. At this time EGW was a Methodist. These were the first group after studying the scriptures alone from the book of Daniel which showed a timeline to what they believed was the second coming *1843-1844. After the great disappointment it was revealed that the scripture timeline was correct but the event was wrong. By a careful study of the scriptures the event outlined in 1844 was that of the investigative judgement and the great day of atonement and Jesus work on our behalf in the heavenly Sanctuary. From this understanding of the scriptures some time latter (1863) people from all different denominations from the Millerite movement after careful study of the scriptures moved to develop the new SDA Church in 1863.
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So nothing personal but all you are providing is other peoples rehash of EGW quotes pulled from context to try and make them say things they do not say like many do with the scriptures.
Wouldn't your time be better spent discussing scripture if you believe that there is something wrong with the teachings of the SDA Church? Let me know if you want to discuss the scriptures with me. Until then this one for me is a waste of time.
Hope this is helpful
