SOLA SCRIPTURA THE FINAL AUTHORITY AND SOLE RULE OF FAITH

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Why do you think Sola scriptura is a limitation dear friend?
Depending on which special little unicorn definition of "sola scriptura" one uses (which is yet another thing Protestants can't agree on), it completely ignores Sacred Tradition, the Magisterium, etc.

The trend is becoming quite apparent. Armed with "sola scriptura" as their unofficial creed, every new generation of Protestant Christianity negotiates more of the faith away than the generation before. Luther, Zwingli and the rest would scarcely recognize most modern Protestant doctrines. I'm on the record questioning how much longer Protestantism will still be recognizable as Christianity.

According to the scriptures it is the sole rule and authority of faith and God's salvation.
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Depending on which special little unicorn definition of "sola scriptura" one uses (which is yet another thing Protestants can't agree on), it completely ignores Sacred Tradition, the Magisterium, etc.

The trend is becoming quite apparent. Armed with "sola scriptura" as their unofficial creed, every new generation of Protestant Christianity negotiates more of the faith away than the generation before. Luther, Zwingli and the rest would scarcely recognize most modern Protestant doctrines. I'm on the record questioning how much longer Protestantism will still be recognizable as Christianity.

Uh huh

Sola scriptura does not ignore sacred traditions as long as they are biblical, scripture promotes it. It only ignores tradition when it is not biblical or goes against the scriptures (for example Matthew 15:3-9). Isn't this the real reason why Roman Catholic doctrine teaches against Sola scriptura is because it's doctrines go against scripture? This is the reason why the reformation started in the first place if you study unbiased history.
 
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THE ORIGIN OF THE LIES OF THOSE WHO TEACH AGAINST SOLA SCRIPTURA

When Satan tempted Eve in the Garden of Eden his angle of attack was to bring into question the sufficiency of God’s word. “Did God actually say, ‘You shall not eat of any tree in the garden?” Not only did Satan, like a good legalist, subtly add on to God’s word by adding the command 'any tree in the Garden'”, he also more devastatingly brought God’s word into question, “Did God really say?” Eve’s bite into that presupposition was the fruit of flowering sin. At that moment, God’s word ceased to have the highest authority over her life.

Thousands of years later, the sons of Satan tried to embroil the Son of Adam in the same trap. The second Adam would not bite. But in their legalism they looked on with disgust as some of Jesus’ disciples ate food without ritually washing their hands. Mark tells us it was not so much a germ thing (because they didn’t know about germs back then) as was a religious thing. “The Pharisees and all the Jews do not eat unless they wash their hands, holding to the tradition of the elders” (Mark 7:3). So, they asked Jesus, “Why do your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders?”

Here Jesus answered them with profound theological and practical insight. “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written ‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ You leave the commandment of God and hold to the tradition of men.” (Mark 7:6-7). Here Jesus pinpoints their hypocrisy: they had exalted the traditions of men to a level that actually caused them to deny and leave God’s word! He ends his discussion with the Pharisees by telling them that by exalting tradition to a level of authority on par with Scripture they have actually “made void the word of God” (Mark 7:13). Satan’s tricks are as old as Eden.

Paul likewise did battle with this same diabolical lie when in 1 Timothy 4 he reveals that “the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons” (1 Timothy 4:1).[1] And how would these demonic teachings cause people to leave the faith? Paul answers, “through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared, who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is made holy by the word of God and prayer” (1 Timothy 4:2-4).

Apparently, there were false teachers who were telling these Christians in Ephesus that true spirituality could only be reached through asceticism - abstaining from certain foods and not getting married. And Paul smelled something ancient and rotten going on. He pinpoints this heresy as being right in line with what Satans been doing since the Garden of Eden: taking what God has declared good and asking the question, “Well, did God really say?”

Now God’s word is clear, marriage is good and honorable and given from God. And God’s word makes it clear that all food is good for man to eat and enjoy. Yet, when someone takes what God has made good and prohibits it as if it were sinful, that person has put himself in the place of God. This is why Paul calls this asceticism Satanic; it is a lie that subjugates God’s word to our own self-exulted wills and words. When Eve looked at the fruit and saw that it was good to eat (though God said it was not good to eat), so the ascetic-legalist looks at marriage and says it is sin (when God Himself has said it is good). There is nothing new under the Sun.

The Protestant Reformers fought against the same lie when they argued that the Scriptures alone must be the final and binding authority upon the church. As Rome exalted tradition to a place of equal authority with Scripture, they effectively made void the word of God.. Alas, Luther himself infamously cried out against Rome’s attack that “unless I am convinced by the testimony of the Scriptures or by clear reason (for I do not trust either in the pope or in councils alone, since it is well-known that they have often erred and contradicted themselves), I am bound by the Scriptures I have quoted and my conscience is captive to the Word of God. I cannot and will not recant anything, since it is neither safe nor right to go against conscience. May God help me. Amen.”

Nothing is new under the sun. The same religious voice in the Garden of Eden and in the days of Christ and the reformation is still very active in the religious world we live in today. Those who teach against the Word of God are simply repeating the first lies told to Eve in the garden of Eden and handed down to all mankind ever since Genesis 3:1-5 (read more here)

May God bless you as you seek him through his Word.
 
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Sola scriptura does not ignore sacred traditions
People who believe in "sola scriptura" do. So it comes to the same.

The scriptures frequently cited in support of "sola scriptura" are rather condescending inasmuch as Catholics were the human authors of the New Testament.

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People who believe in "sola scriptura" do. So it comes to the same. The scriptures frequently cited in support of "sola scriptura" are rather condescending inasmuch as Catholics were the human authors of the New Testament.

Actually that is not true dear friend. As posted earlier, Sola scriptura does not ignore sacred traditions. As long as those traditions are biblical then scripture promotes them.

It is the scriptures alone that tell us to ignore man made teachings and tradition that break the commandments of God and speaks against these types of tradition when they are not biblical and go against the Word of God. For example in Matthew 15:3-9 Jesus says in His own words if we follow the teachings and tradition of men that break the commandments of God over the Word of God we are not following God. Now who are you going to believe and follow.

The teachings of the Pope and the Roman Catholic Church if they teach us to break God's commandments or the Words of JESUS? My friend, isn't this the real reason why Roman Catholic doctrine teaches against Sola scriptura?

Isn't it because it's doctrines go against scripture? This is the reason why the reformation started in the first place if you study unbiased history. The reformation came from within the Roman Catholic Church as men of God began to read and follow the bible.

The reformation did not come from outside of the Church but from within the Church giving birth to Protestantism. Those who read the bible protested that the doctrines of the Church were against scripture and God's salvation by grace through faith.

Hope this is helpful.
 
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Just wondering if anyone that is of the Catholic belief can provide a single example of a doctrine that originates from an oral Apostolic Tradition that the Bible is silent about and provide proof that this doctrinal tradition is apostolic in origin. Or perhaps can provide a single example of where inspired apostolic "oral revelation" (tradition) differed from "written" (scripture)?

Something to pray about.
 
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Depending on which special little unicorn definition of "sola scriptura" one uses (which is yet another thing Protestants can't agree on), it completely ignores Sacred Tradition, the Magisterium, etc.

The trend is becoming quite apparent. Armed with "sola scriptura" as their unofficial creed, every new generation of Protestant Christianity negotiates more of the faith away than the generation before. Luther, Zwingli and the rest would scarcely recognize most modern Protestant doctrines. I'm on the record questioning how much longer Protestantism will still be recognizable as Christianity.
Interesting viewpoint, but I think the same can be said about Catholicism. If you take a pope from 1500 years ago and put him in a church, he probably wouldn't think it's the same church/religion imo.
 
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Interesting viewpoint, but I think the same can be said about Catholicism. If you take a pope from 1500 years ago and put him in a church, he probably wouldn't think it's the same church/religion imo.
Doctrinally, the Church doesn't believe anything radically different now as compared to then. There's a reason that people read the Early Church Fathers and see Catholic doctrine and theology there.
 
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Doctrinally, the Church doesn't believe anything radically different now as compared to then. There's a reason that people read the Early Church Fathers and see Catholic doctrine and theology there.

Did you mean like these early Church fathers?

Sola Scriptura in the Early Church

Irenaeus (130 – 202)

“Such, then, is their system, which neither the prophets announced, nor the Lord taught, nor the apostles delivered, but of which they boast that beyond all others they have a perfect knowledge. They gather their views from other sources than the Scriptures” – Against Heresies 1.8.1

“We have learned from none others the plan of our salvation, than from those through whom the Gospel has come down to us, which they did at one time proclaim in public, and, at a later period, by the will of God, handed down to us in the Scriptures, to be the ground and pillar of our faith. For it is unlawful to assert that they preached before they possessed ‘perfect knowledge,’ as some do even venture to say, boasting themselves as improvers of the apostles” – Against Heresies 3.1.1

“When, however, they are confuted from the Scriptures, they turn round and accuse these same Scriptures, as if they were not correct, nor of authority, and [assert] that they are ambiguous, and that the truth cannot be extracted from them by those who are ignorant of tradition. For [they allege] that the truth was not delivered by means of written documents, but vivâ voce” – Against Heresies 3.2.1

Clement of Alexandria (150 – 215)

“But those who are ready to toil in the most excellent pursuits, will not desist from the search after truth, till they get the demonstration from the Scriptures themselves” – Stromata 7.16

Hippolytus (170 – 235)

“There is, brethren, one God, the knowledge of whom we gain from the Holy Scriptures, and from no other source. . . . So all of us who wish to practice piety will be unable to learn its practice from any other quarter than the oracles of God. Whatever things, then, the Holy Scriptures declare, at these let us look; and whatever things they teach, these let us learn” – Against Noetus 9

Cyprian of Carthage (210 – 258)

“Whence is that tradition? Whether does it descend from the authority of the Lord and of the Gospel, or does it come from the commands and the epistles of the apostles? For that those things which are written must be done, God witnesses and admonishes, saying to Joshua the Son of Nun: The book of this law shall not depart out of your mouth; but you shall meditate in it day and night, that you may observe to do according to all that is written therein”” – Epistle 73

“If, therefore, it is either prescribed in the Gospel, or contained in the epistles or Acts of the Apostles, that those who come from any heresy should not be baptized, but only hands laid upon them to repentance, let this divine and holy tradition be observed” – Epistle 73

Athanasius (296–298)

“Vainly then do they run about with the pretext that they have demanded Councils for the faith’s sake; for divine Scripture is sufficient above all things; but if a Council be needed on the point, there are the proceedings of the Fathers, for the Nicene Bishops did not neglect this matter, but stated the doctrine so exactly, that persons reading their words honestly, cannot but be reminded by them of the religion towards Christ announced in divine Scripture” – Letter, De Synodis

“These are fountains of salvation, that they who thirst may be satisfied with the living words they contain. In these alone is proclaimed the doctrine of godliness. Let no man add to these, neither let him take ought from these. For concerning these the Lord put to shame the Sadducees, and said, ‘Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures.’ And He reproved the Jews, saying, ‘Search the Scriptures, for these are they that testify of Me’” – 39th Festal Letter.

St. Cyril of Jerusalem (313 – 386)

“Have thou ever in your mind this seal, which for the present has been lightly touched in my discourse, by way of summary, but shall be stated, should the Lord permit, to the best of my power with the proof from the Scriptures. For concerning the divine and holy mysteries of the Faith, not even a casual statement must be delivered without the Holy Scriptures; nor must we be drawn aside by mere plausibility and artifices of speech. Even to me, who tell you these things, give not absolute credence, unless thou receive the proof of the things which I announce from the Divine Scriptures. For this salvation which we believe depends not on ingenious reasoning, but on demonstration of the Holy Scriptures” – Catechetical Lecture 4.17

“Now mind not my argumentations, for perhaps you may be misled but unless thou receive testimony of the Prophets on each matter, believe not what I say: unless thou learn from the Holy Scriptures concerning the Virgin, and the place, the time, and the manner, receive not testimony from man. For one who at present thus teaches may possibly be suspected: but what man of sense will suspect one that prophesied a thousand and more years beforehand? If then you seek the cause of Christ’s coming, go back to the first book of the Scriptures” – Catechetical Lecture 12.5

Basil the Great (330 – 379)

“What is the mark of a faithful soul? To be in these dispositions of full acceptance on the authority of the words of Scripture, not venturing to reject anything nor making additions. For, if ‘all that is not of faith is sin’ as the Apostle says, and ‘faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of God,’ everything outside Holy Scripture, not being of faith, is sin.” – Moralia

“The hearers taught in the Scriptures ought to test what is said by teachers and accept that which agrees with the Scriptures but reject that which is foreign” – Moralia

“Therefore let God-inspired Scripture decide between us; and on whichever side be found doctrines in harmony with the word of God, in favour of that side will be cast the vote of truth” – Letter 189

“Enjoying as you do the consolation of the Holy Scriptures, you stand in need neither of my assistance nor of that of anybody else to help you to comprehend your duty. You have the all-sufficient counsel and guidance of the Holy Spirit to lead you to what is right” – Letter 283

Gregory of Nyssa (335 – 394)

“Let the inspired Scriptures then be our umpire, and the vote of truth will be given to those whose dogmas are found to agree with the Divine words.” – On the Holy Trinity

“We are not entitled to such license, I mean that of affirming what we please; we make the Holy Scriptures the rule and the measure of every tenet; we necessarily fix our eyes upon that, and approve that alone which may be made to harmonize vvith the intention of those writings.”- On the Soul and the Resurrection

Ambrose (340 – 397)

“For how can we adopt those things which we do not find in the holy Scriptures?” – On the Duties of the Clergy

Theophilus of Alexandria (? – 412)

“It would be the instigation of a demonical spirit to follow the conceits of the human mind, and to think anything divine, beyond what has the authority of the Scriptures” – Epistola 96

Jerome (347 – 420)

“But as we do not deny what is written, so we do reject what is not written” – Against Helvidius 21

“Those things which they make and find, as it were, by apostolical tradition, without the authority and testimony of Scripture, the word of God smites” – on Aggai 1

John Chrysostom (349 – 407)

“Regarding the things I say, I should supply even the proofs, so I will not seem to rely on my own opinions, but rather, prove them with Scripture, so that the matter will remain certain and steadfast.” – Homily 8 On Repentance and the Church

“There comes a heathen and says, “I wish to become a Christian, but I know not whom to join: there is much fighting and faction among you, much confusion: which doctrine am I to choose?” How shall we answer him? “Each of you” (says he) “asserts, ‘I speak the truth.”‘ No doubt: this is in our favor. For if we told you to be persuaded by arguments, you might well be perplexed: but if we bid you believe the Scriptures, and these are simple and true, the decision is easy for you. If any agree with the Scriptures, he is the Christian; if any fight against them, he is far from this rule.” – Homily 33 in Acts of the Apostles

“Wherefore I exhort and entreat you all, disregard what this man and that man thinks about these things, and inquire from the Scriptures all these things; and having learned what are the true riches, let us pursue after them that we may obtain also the eternal good things” – Homily 13 On Second Corinthians

Augustine (354 – 430)

“What more shall I teach you than what we read in the apostles? For Holy Scripture fixes the rule for our doctrine, lest we dare be wiser than we ought. Therefore I should not teach you anything else except to expound to you the words of the Teacher” – Of the Good of Widowhood 2.

“It is to the canonical Scriptures alone that I am bound to yield such implicit subjection as to follow their teaching, without admitting the slightest suspicion that in them any mistake or any statement intended to mislead could find a place” – Letter 82

“For the reasonings of any men whatsoever, even though they be Catholics, and of high reputation, are not to be treated by us in the same way as the canonical Scriptures are treated. We are at liberty, without doing any violence to the respect which these men deserve, to condemn and reject anything in their writings, if perchance we shall find that they have entertained opinions differing from that which others or we ourselves have, by the divine help, discovered to be the truth. I deal thus with the writings of others, and I wish my intelligent readers to deal thus with mine” – Letter 148

“You are wont, indeed, to bring up against us the letters of Cyprian, his opinion, his Council; why do ye claim the authority of Cyprian for your schism, and reject his example when it makes for the peace of the Church? But who can fail to be aware that the sacred canon of Scripture, both of the Old and New Testament, is confined within its own limits, and that it stands so absolutely in a superior position to all later letters of the bishops, that about it we can hold no manner of doubt or disputation whether what is confessedly contained in it is right and true; but that all the letters of bishops which have been written, or are being written, since the closing of the canon, are liable to be refuted if there be anything contained in them which strays from the the truth, either by the discourse of some one who happens to be wiser in the matter than themselves, or by the weightier authority and more learned experience of other bishops, by the authority of Councils; and further, that the Councils themselves, which are held in the several districts and provinces, must yield, beyond all possibility of doubt, to the authority of plenary Councils which are formed for the whole Christian world; and that even of the plenary Councils, the earlier are often corrected by those which follow them, when, by some actual experiment, things are brought to light which were before concealed, and that is known which previously lay hid, and this without any whirlwind of sacrilegious pride, without any puffing of the neck through arrogance, without any strife of envious hatred, simply with holy humility, catholic peace, and Christian charity?” – On Baptism, Against the Donatists

“Especially as in writings of such authors I feel myself free to use my own judgment (owing unhesitating assent to nothing but the canonical Scriptures), whilst in fact there is not a passage which he has quoted from the works of this anonymous author that disturbs me” –On Nature and Grace

“This shows that the established authority of Scripture must outweigh every other; for it derives new confirmation from the progress of events which happen, as Scripture proves, in fulfillment of the predictions made so long before their occurrence” – Reply to Faustus the Manichaean

“In the matters of which we are now treating, only the canonical writings have any weight with us” – Reply to Faustus the Manichaean

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Dear friend do not believe the lies of Eden *Genesis 3. God's Word alone is our sole rule of faith and only authority and guide to Gods truth and God's salvation.

God bless.
 
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Sola Scriptura in the Early Church

Irenaeus (130 – 202)

“Such, then, is their system, which neither the prophets announced, nor the Lord taught, nor the apostles delivered, but of which they boast that beyond all others they have a perfect knowledge. They gather their views from other sources than the Scriptures” – Against Heresies 1.8.1

“We have learned from none others the plan of our salvation, than from those through whom the Gospel has come down to us, which they did at one time proclaim in public, and, at a later period, by the will of God, handed down to us in the Scriptures, to be the ground and pillar of our faith. For it is unlawful to assert that they preached before they possessed ‘perfect knowledge,’ as some do even venture to say, boasting themselves as improvers of the apostles” – Against Heresies 3.1.1

“When, however, they are confuted from the Scriptures, they turn round and accuse these same Scriptures, as if they were not correct, nor of authority, and [assert] that they are ambiguous, and that the truth cannot be extracted from them by those who are ignorant of tradition. For [they allege] that the truth was not delivered by means of written documents, but vivâ voce” – Against Heresies 3.2.1

Clement of Alexandria (150 – 215)

“But those who are ready to toil in the most excellent pursuits, will not desist from the search after truth, till they get the demonstration from the Scriptures themselves” – Stromata 7.16

Hippolytus (170 – 235)

“There is, brethren, one God, the knowledge of whom we gain from the Holy Scriptures, and from no other source. . . . So all of us who wish to practice piety will be unable to learn its practice from any other quarter than the oracles of God. Whatever things, then, the Holy Scriptures declare, at these let us look; and whatever things they teach, these let us learn” – Against Noetus 9

Cyprian of Carthage (210 – 258)

“Whence is that tradition? Whether does it descend from the authority of the Lord and of the Gospel, or does it come from the commands and the epistles of the apostles? For that those things which are written must be done, God witnesses and admonishes, saying to Joshua the Son of Nun: The book of this law shall not depart out of your mouth; but you shall meditate in it day and night, that you may observe to do according to all that is written therein”” – Epistle 73

“If, therefore, it is either prescribed in the Gospel, or contained in the epistles or Acts of the Apostles, that those who come from any heresy should not be baptized, but only hands laid upon them to repentance, let this divine and holy tradition be observed” – Epistle 73

Athanasius (296–298)

“Vainly then do they run about with the pretext that they have demanded Councils for the faith’s sake; for divine Scripture is sufficient above all things; but if a Council be needed on the point, there are the proceedings of the Fathers, for the Nicene Bishops did not neglect this matter, but stated the doctrine so exactly, that persons reading their words honestly, cannot but be reminded by them of the religion towards Christ announced in divine Scripture” – Letter, De Synodis

“These are fountains of salvation, that they who thirst may be satisfied with the living words they contain. In these alone is proclaimed the doctrine of godliness. Let no man add to these, neither let him take ought from these. For concerning these the Lord put to shame the Sadducees, and said, ‘Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures.’ And He reproved the Jews, saying, ‘Search the Scriptures, for these are they that testify of Me’” – 39th Festal Letter.

St. Cyril of Jerusalem (313 – 386)

“Have thou ever in your mind this seal, which for the present has been lightly touched in my discourse, by way of summary, but shall be stated, should the Lord permit, to the best of my power with the proof from the Scriptures. For concerning the divine and holy mysteries of the Faith, not even a casual statement must be delivered without the Holy Scriptures; nor must we be drawn aside by mere plausibility and artifices of speech. Even to me, who tell you these things, give not absolute credence, unless thou receive the proof of the things which I announce from the Divine Scriptures. For this salvation which we believe depends not on ingenious reasoning, but on demonstration of the Holy Scriptures” – Catechetical Lecture 4.17

“Now mind not my argumentations, for perhaps you may be misled but unless thou receive testimony of the Prophets on each matter, believe not what I say: unless thou learn from the Holy Scriptures concerning the Virgin, and the place, the time, and the manner, receive not testimony from man. For one who at present thus teaches may possibly be suspected: but what man of sense will suspect one that prophesied a thousand and more years beforehand? If then you seek the cause of Christ’s coming, go back to the first book of the Scriptures” – Catechetical Lecture 12.5

Basil the Great (330 – 379)

“What is the mark of a faithful soul? To be in these dispositions of full acceptance on the authority of the words of Scripture, not venturing to reject anything nor making additions. For, if ‘all that is not of faith is sin’ as the Apostle says, and ‘faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of God,’ everything outside Holy Scripture, not being of faith, is sin.” – Moralia

“The hearers taught in the Scriptures ought to test what is said by teachers and accept that which agrees with the Scriptures but reject that which is foreign” – Moralia

“Therefore let God-inspired Scripture decide between us; and on whichever side be found doctrines in harmony with the word of God, in favour of that side will be cast the vote of truth” – Letter 189

“Enjoying as you do the consolation of the Holy Scriptures, you stand in need neither of my assistance nor of that of anybody else to help you to comprehend your duty. You have the all-sufficient counsel and guidance of the Holy Spirit to lead you to what is right” – Letter 283

Gregory of Nyssa (335 – 394)

“Let the inspired Scriptures then be our umpire, and the vote of truth will be given to those whose dogmas are found to agree with the Divine words.” – On the Holy Trinity

“We are not entitled to such license, I mean that of affirming what we please; we make the Holy Scriptures the rule and the measure of every tenet; we necessarily fix our eyes upon that, and approve that alone which may be made to harmonize vvith the intention of those writings.”- On the Soul and the Resurrection

Ambrose (340 – 397)

“For how can we adopt those things which we do not find in the holy Scriptures?” – On the Duties of the Clergy

Theophilus of Alexandria (? – 412)

“It would be the instigation of a demonical spirit to follow the conceits of the human mind, and to think anything divine, beyond what has the authority of the Scriptures” – Epistola 96

Jerome (347 – 420)

“But as we do not deny what is written, so we do reject what is not written” – Against Helvidius 21

“Those things which they make and find, as it were, by apostolical tradition, without the authority and testimony of Scripture, the word of God smites” – on Aggai 1

John Chrysostom (349 – 407)

“Regarding the things I say, I should supply even the proofs, so I will not seem to rely on my own opinions, but rather, prove them with Scripture, so that the matter will remain certain and steadfast.” – Homily 8 On Repentance and the Church

“There comes a heathen and says, “I wish to become a Christian, but I know not whom to join: there is much fighting and faction among you, much confusion: which doctrine am I to choose?” How shall we answer him? “Each of you” (says he) “asserts, ‘I speak the truth.”‘ No doubt: this is in our favor. For if we told you to be persuaded by arguments, you might well be perplexed: but if we bid you believe the Scriptures, and these are simple and true, the decision is easy for you. If any agree with the Scriptures, he is the Christian; if any fight against them, he is far from this rule.” – Homily 33 in Acts of the Apostles

“Wherefore I exhort and entreat you all, disregard what this man and that man thinks about these things, and inquire from the Scriptures all these things; and having learned what are the true riches, let us pursue after them that we may obtain also the eternal good things” – Homily 13 On Second Corinthians

Augustine (354 – 430)

“What more shall I teach you than what we read in the apostles? For Holy Scripture fixes the rule for our doctrine, lest we dare be wiser than we ought. Therefore I should not teach you anything else except to expound to you the words of the Teacher” – Of the Good of Widowhood 2.

“It is to the canonical Scriptures alone that I am bound to yield such implicit subjection as to follow their teaching, without admitting the slightest suspicion that in them any mistake or any statement intended to mislead could find a place” – Letter 82

“For the reasonings of any men whatsoever, even though they be Catholics, and of high reputation, are not to be treated by us in the same way as the canonical Scriptures are treated. We are at liberty, without doing any violence to the respect which these men deserve, to condemn and reject anything in their writings, if perchance we shall find that they have entertained opinions differing from that which others or we ourselves have, by the divine help, discovered to be the truth. I deal thus with the writings of others, and I wish my intelligent readers to deal thus with mine” – Letter 148

“You are wont, indeed, to bring up against us the letters of Cyprian, his opinion, his Council; why do ye claim the authority of Cyprian for your schism, and reject his example when it makes for the peace of the Church? But who can fail to be aware that the sacred canon of Scripture, both of the Old and New Testament, is confined within its own limits, and that it stands so absolutely in a superior position to all later letters of the bishops, that about it we can hold no manner of doubt or disputation whether what is confessedly contained in it is right and true; but that all the letters of bishops which have been written, or are being written, since the closing of the canon, are liable to be refuted if there be anything contained in them which strays from the the truth, either by the discourse of some one who happens to be wiser in the matter than themselves, or by the weightier authority and more learned experience of other bishops, by the authority of Councils; and further, that the Councils themselves, which are held in the several districts and provinces, must yield, beyond all possibility of doubt, to the authority of plenary Councils which are formed for the whole Christian world; and that even of the plenary Councils, the earlier are often corrected by those which follow them, when, by some actual experiment, things are brought to light which were before concealed, and that is known which previously lay hid, and this without any whirlwind of sacrilegious pride, without any puffing of the neck through arrogance, without any strife of envious hatred, simply with holy humility, catholic peace, and Christian charity?” – On Baptism, Against the Donatists

“Especially as in writings of such authors I feel myself free to use my own judgment (owing unhesitating assent to nothing but the canonical Scriptures), whilst in fact there is not a passage which he has quoted from the works of this anonymous author that disturbs me” –On Nature and Grace

“This shows that the established authority of Scripture must outweigh every other; for it derives new confirmation from the progress of events which happen, as Scripture proves, in fulfillment of the predictions made so long before their occurrence” – Reply to Faustus the Manichaean

“In the matters of which we are now treating, only the canonical writings have any weight with us” – Reply to Faustus the Manichaean


Dear friend do not believe the lies of Eden *Genesis 3. God's Word alone is our sole rule of faith and only authority and guide to Gods truth and God's salvation.

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People who believe in "sola scriptura" do. So it comes to the same.

The scriptures frequently cited in support of "sola scriptura" are rather condescending inasmuch as Catholics were the human authors of the New Testament.

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Catholics were the human authors of the New Testament? That is the worst heresy I have read in a long, time time.

There is no mention of Catholics or Catholicism mentioned in any Bible I have ever read. I've got news for you: all the NT authors except Luke were all Jews.
 
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Catholics were the human authors of the New Testament? That is the worst heresy I have read in a long, time time.

There is no mention of Catholics or Catholicism mentioned in any Bible I have ever read. I've got news for you: all the NT authors except Luke were all Jews.
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Your claim was (red emphasis mine)...
thecolorsblend said: Doctrinally, the Church doesn't believe anything radically different now as compared to then. There's a reason that people read the Early Church Fathers and see Catholic doctrine and theology there.
I simply posted the early Church fathers agreeing with Sola Scriptura which does not agree with Catholic doctrine in post # 29 linked
 
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No proof! Where does it say anywhere that in the Bible that Catholicism even exists?
You're not mentioned in the Bible so does that mean you don't exist?
 
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You're not mentioned in the Bible so does that mean you don't exist?

Is that really your best response? You claimed, without corroborating proof, that Catholics wrote the Bible. If you have any proof produce it. Otherwise you can't be believed. That's the way the world works.

Even after Jesus (a Jew, not a Catholic) returned, He had to prove it was He to the disciples. Since you can't produce evidence that Catholics wrote the Bible (or are even mentioned in Scripture) your statement is false.
 
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Is that really your best response?
No actually, my original response was an inflammatory meme but I've posted a few of those already so I thought a change of pace was in order. Thus, I edited my post later to say something different.

You're welcome.

You claimed, without corroborating proof, that Catholics wrote the Bible.
It is self-evident.

If you have any proof produce it. Otherwise you can't be believed. That's the way the world works.
It's tempting to jokingly ask you to prove that.

Even after Jesus (a Jew, not a Catholic)
Do you understand that "Catholic" isn't an ethnicity?
 
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